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'A national disgrace'(Canada-Punks Urinate on War Memorial)
The Ottawa Citizen ^ | July 03, 2006 | Shannon Proudfoot

Posted on 07/03/2006 7:01:05 AM PDT by Marius3188

Furious veterans are renewing their demands that the National War Memorial be guarded to protect it against "disgusting" assaults after young men were caught urinating on it during Canada Day festivities.

A retired major snapped digital pictures of several people relieving themselves on the monument around 11 p.m. on Saturday, as thousands poured into the streets following the fireworks.

Most cheered and laughed when they were photographed using the memorial as a toilet on the nation's birthday.

"I think it's a national disgrace," said Dr. Michael Pilon, 63, a retired major with the Royal Canadian Dental Corps.

"It's absolutely disgusting -- absolutely disgusting," said Bob Butt, the director of communications for the Royal Canadian Legion.

"The tomb is a sacred place, the area surrounding it is consecrated as a graveyard. It's the same as if you went in and urinated on someone's grave."

The offending photos will serve as ammunition to renew the Legion's fight to protect the monument, he vowed.

Since the Unknown Soldier's remains were repatriated from France in 2000, the Legion has repeatedly asked the RCMP and city police to post guards at the memorial, at least in the summer when there is more activity on the streets, Mr. Butt said.

They were told there is not enough manpower to do so. Police patrolling the general area are supposed to keep an eye on the monument, but the perpetrators are usually long gone by the time police arrive to deal with any problems.

Dr. Pilon has also contacted several politicians and government agencies to ask that the National War Memorial be protected, to no avail.

Last year on Canada Day, he observed many people sitting and drinking on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, but when he reminded them about the young soldier's grave, most were apologetic.

He noticed things becoming rowdier late at night, with several people pouring drinks on the tomb in a misguided, intoxicated tribute to the man lying below.

In early June, Dr. Pilon sent e-mails to the offices of Premier Dalton McGuinty, Mayor Bob Chiarelli, the National Capital Commission and others, identifying himself as a veteran and requesting someone guard the memorial this year.

He got no response.

Although he was "very offended" by those he caught urinating on the monument, he is more angry about the lack of action from politicians.

"You're not going to be able to control how many drunks there are out there, but keep them away from the area and have a (security) presence," Dr. Pilon said, suggesting the memorial should be cordoned off with a small fence and a plaque to explain the significance of the site.

Les Peate, 77, a Korean War veteran and the national president of the Korea Veterans Association, said ignorant behaviour is an unfortunate exception to the "pretty overwhelming" respect younger generations typically show for veterans.

"I feel very sorry that there are just a few of these idiots, a very small minority, doing this," he said.

Mr. Peate was part of the committee responsible for bringing home the remains of the Unknown Soldier. Although there was some concern at the time about placing the tomb in such an exposed downtown location, he has not heard of any problems with it until now.

"It's really saying something for our society if there's a need to put police there around the clock," he said.

The photos of the young men urinating were captured the same day Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Gov. Gen. Michaelle Jean attended a wreath-laying ceremony -- the first held at the War Memorial on Canada Day -- marking the 90th anniversary of the battles of the Somme and Beaumont-Hamel.

Mr. Harper described the ceremony as "very, very moving," and paid special tribute to the Canadian troops currently serving in Afghanistan.

"We want a special remembrance for them today because, obviously, they're probably doing more to make Canada proud these days than any group of Canadians," he said.

Sgt. Monique Beauchamp, a spokeswoman for the RCMP, said the force works in partnership with Ottawa police and the various government agencies who organize Canada Day to patrol the festivities, but there are no specific measures to protect the war memorial.

"I wish we could be everywhere and take care of every single incident, but the important part is to make sure people have a safe place to enjoy the fireworks and then be on their way home safely," she said.

Attempts to reach the politicians and agencies contacted by Dr. Pilon were not successful last night.

Sound Off: Tell us what you think about this story.

Go to www.ottawacitizen.com and post your comments or send an e-mail to citizenfeedback@canada.com


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: canada; canadaday; warmemorial
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1 posted on 07/03/2006 7:01:08 AM PDT by Marius3188
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To: Marius3188

Clearly these young men are protesting Canada's new sodomy laws.


2 posted on 07/03/2006 7:08:18 AM PDT by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: Marius3188

I don't think that flogging is all that cruel and unusual a punishment, do you?


3 posted on 07/03/2006 7:38:01 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Having a Kerry/Edwards bumpersticker on your car is like having "Born Loozer" tatooed on your arm.)
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To: Marius3188

"It's absolutely disgusting -- absolutely disgusting," said Bob BUTT.


4 posted on 07/03/2006 7:41:59 AM PDT by proudpapa (of three.)
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To: Marius3188

"Urine-boarding" comes to mind.


5 posted on 07/03/2006 7:45:37 AM PDT by Freedom_Fighter_2001 (When money is no object - it's your money they're talking about)
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Thugs that Canada is producing these days - and they call the people of the U.S. most of the foul adjectives in our language. I guess so they don't have to look at their own.


6 posted on 07/03/2006 7:52:01 AM PDT by imintrouble
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To: Marius3188

Maybe they could electrify the monument.


7 posted on 07/03/2006 7:54:41 AM PDT by steve-b ("Creation Science" is to the religous right what "Global Warming" is to the socialist left.)
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To: steve-b

I think someone needs to cut their pissers off.


8 posted on 07/03/2006 8:07:37 AM PDT by Moolah
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"Thugs that Canada is producing these days - and they call the people of the U.S. most of the foul adjectives in our language. I guess so they don't have to look at their own."

Canada is becoming/has become a socialist cesspool with all the thugery and arrogance that inevitably attaches. Mexico is moving even further to the radical left.

We are being squeezed. It seems that only Poland and Japan are following the same path as we are. Even England, for all their support on the WoT, has serious problems based on socialist attitudes and a completely lax approach to law enforcement (which actually go hand in hand, as we all know).

Scary, scary world. Gonna drink some beers, watch some fireworks, and pretends its not there, at least for a day. Sigh.


9 posted on 07/03/2006 8:07:40 AM PDT by piytar
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Junkyard dogs also hike a leg against anything handy. These people must hate themselves for being so inferior to those being memorialized.

At the end of their lives their only memorial will be a cesspool.
10 posted on 07/03/2006 8:24:49 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: Marius3188
Imagine if you can, this taking place in Arlington.

I have had the privilege of knowing several 'Tomb Walkers' and I can say with all certainty that it would be a bloody affair if they tried!
11 posted on 07/03/2006 8:47:18 AM PDT by 11Bush
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...Royal Canadian Dental Corps...

(Keeping my mouth firmly closed while punchlines squirt out of my ears)

12 posted on 07/03/2006 9:11:56 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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13 posted on 07/03/2006 9:21:12 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: BlazingArizona
...Royal Canadian Dental Corps...

I've heard their drills are painful.

14 posted on 07/03/2006 9:26:24 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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Well they are certainly getting the attention they crave - but what kind of society condones this behavior.

There should be a martial punishment for this act and let the kids cool off in a military jail for a week or so...
see the kind of men they are pissing on.

It takes a great deal to disgust me - and this one did it.


15 posted on 07/03/2006 11:02:15 AM PDT by imintrouble
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"I wish we could be everywhere and take care of every single incident, but the important part is to make sure people have a safe place to enjoy the fireworks and then be on their way home safely," she said.

What a marvelous advance is the feminization of everything possible.

16 posted on 07/03/2006 11:10:53 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: rawhide

I'd like to see how far that idjit would get with that stunt at our tomb of the unknown.


17 posted on 07/03/2006 8:57:26 PM PDT by M1911A1
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To: M1911A1

when you gotta go you gotta go ..raise your hand if you never urinated anywhere you wern't sepose to I'am not the one who urinated there but I think the solution is simple
put more public washrooms near and around all of downtown
close to the parliment ...MORE! with 80,000 people showing up at the hill and we all know people celebrate with booze and other fluids so why charge people when the solution is simple fine it was a war munument should we inpound all the
dog that problably urinated near or on a corner of it? Iam not saying its right but a solution can be fixed very easy
no need to put crminal charges on teens just put MORE public washrooms or is that being just to smart?


18 posted on 07/04/2006 6:51:21 PM PDT by Rob99
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Nope.....never chosen to urinate on a monument.
Not going to happen.

No one else should either.

Especially when you are talking about people who are obviously doing it to make a point.
They are not going to choose to use a porta potty when they can "make a statement"
19 posted on 07/04/2006 11:53:10 PM PDT by M0sby (((PROUD WIFE of MSgt Edwards USMC)))
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To: Rob99
Why should anyone have to look at some dirty hippie acting like an animal in public place. Disgusting, disrespectful and I'm sure he's a liberal
20 posted on 07/05/2006 12:03:31 AM PDT by 1035rep
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