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Lichtblau of 'NYT' Explains Attempt to Halt His Bank Records Scoop
Editior and Publisher ^ | 06/ 23/2006 | Joe Strupp

Posted on 06/24/2006 9:24:07 PM PDT by airedale

Eric Lichtblau, one of two New York Times' reporters who broke today's story of a secret government monitoring of private banking records - which the Bush Administration sought to block - said the White House arguments to halt the story were not as strong as those that had kept a previous report on secret wiretapping out of the paper for a year.

"They were similar in terms of the objections raised not to publish," Lichtblau told E&P today. "That the bad guys knew we were listening to them, but they don't know exactly how." But he said the objections "did not rise to as high a level as last time."

"I don't think we could reasonably be accused of moving too quickly," he said. "We waited so long that the competition caught up to us." This comment referred to the Los Angeles Times' posting a story about the bank records program on its Web site last night. That paper said it had also been asked by the administration to hold off.

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Lichtblau added that the reaction to the wiretapping story, which included both criticism and support for the paper, made it easier to go with this story. He noted that there had been no proof that the previous story had endangered national security.

"Our belief that it did not have any tangible impact has been borne out," he said. "That was in the back of our minds this time." He also said that "the intense public interest in the NSA story showed that this is obviously a matter of intense public interest. We see similar interest in both cases, the pendulum, as far as public disclosure versus national security, has swung in the direction of public disclosure....

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: leak; lichtblau; nytimes; risen; swift
They want dead bodies and smoking ruins before they think secrets should be kept. If as a result of their disclosures people die I think these two reporters and Keller, etal should have to individually meet with each of the families and beg their forgives as well as make financial restitution. Then sit in jail for the next 25 years or so.
1 posted on 06/24/2006 9:24:11 PM PDT by airedale
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To: airedale

The fourth estate is a fifth column.


3 posted on 06/24/2006 9:27:09 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: airedale

The NY Slimes are just fighting the war against the war on terror.

Truth stolen from Scrappleface and Mr. Ott.


4 posted on 06/24/2006 9:28:15 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: airedale
"They were similar in terms of the objections raised not to publish," Lichtblau told E&P today. "That the bad guys knew we were listening to them, but they don't know exactly how." But he said the objections "did not rise to as high a level as last time."


It's insane that we have idiot reporters strutting about as if they are the experts over the Bush administration.

And when America gets hit again do you think they will be sorry for aiding the Terrorists, or will they be blaming President Bush with massive hysterics?
5 posted on 06/24/2006 9:34:39 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Since when have we had to get permission from the NYT to conduct war?


6 posted on 06/24/2006 9:36:18 PM PDT by sachem longrifle (proud member of the fond Du lac band of the Ojibwe people)
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To: airedale
"I don't think we could reasonably be accused of moving too quickly," he said. "We waited so long that the competition caught up to us." This comment referred to the Los Angeles Times' posting a story about the bank records program on its Web site last night. That paper said it had also been asked by the administration to hold off.

Al Qaeda intelligence collecting sure us a competitive field.

7 posted on 06/24/2006 9:39:35 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: airedale
"We waited so long that the competition caught up to us"



They could care less about compromising National Security. Their only concern is getting the story out before the competition, regardless of the huge problems it could result in and lives that could be put in danger when we lost a way of tracking the terrorists.
8 posted on 06/24/2006 9:39:46 PM PDT by AmeriBrit (LIGHT A PRAYER CANDLE FOR THE TROOPS: http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/enter.cfm)
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To: airedale

us = is


9 posted on 06/24/2006 9:39:50 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: airedale
But he said the objections "did not rise to as high a level as last time."

And you basically ignored them last time, so why stop now? It's only the war against terrorists, after all.

Do these people just figure that Al Qaeda is goign to hit a Republican-only target next time? You know, something in "flyover" country, which they don't give a damn about?

If it was MoDowd instead of Barbara Olson who died on 9-11, I think we would see a very different press these days.

10 posted on 06/24/2006 9:42:02 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: airedale
Lichtblau, save your sorry ass excuse for the Grand Jury and your cell mate when he's got you in the hands to ankle position.
11 posted on 06/24/2006 9:45:29 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: airedale

There's SO much wrong with this. But two things stand out: their (dwindling) readership interest dictates everything. There is little to none consideration of what the right thing to do is.

Hell, I'd be interested in reading all sorts of stuff, in my more bored moments. But that doesn't mean that should be published! They're treating their (dwindling) readership like the worn-down parent of a spoiled toddler: it whines for something, so they provide it.

Shameful.


12 posted on 06/24/2006 9:46:01 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget - And Never Again)
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To: airedale
"We waited so long that the competition caught up to us." This comment referred to the Los Angeles Times' posting a story about the bank records program on its Web site last night.

This nugget reveals that whoever "leaked" the story had an agenda and had contacted at least two reporters at two newspapers.

This leak has Mary McCarthy's fingerprints all over it.

13 posted on 06/24/2006 9:49:01 PM PDT by managusta (corruptissima republica plurimae leges)
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To: managusta

I'm not sure why Gonzales is waiting to get this in front of a Grand Jury and then call these reporters to disclose their source(s) or go to jail?


14 posted on 06/24/2006 9:52:00 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: airedale
i sure hope no one decides to take the law into their own hands and hangs this man from a lamppost
15 posted on 06/24/2006 9:53:09 PM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (Islam Schmislam blahblahblah, enough already!)
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To: managusta

My guess is a Democrat member of Congress which was my guess in the NSA leak


16 posted on 06/24/2006 9:53:22 PM PDT by airedale ( XZ)
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To: bootless

Do you suppose Eric Lichbinladensyouknowwhat will invite this writer for a threesome?

I heard people were high fiving at the Ny Times on 9/11. Never believed it until today.


17 posted on 06/24/2006 9:54:49 PM PDT by ashamedtobefromparkridge
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To: Drango
This guy should be stood up, tied to a post and given the option of a blind fold before he hears for the last time the click of triggers being pulled.
18 posted on 06/24/2006 9:57:35 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (2008 Democrat Motto: A Dixie Chick on pot, a Chinese bicycle in your garage and a Mexican maid)
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To: Darkwolf377

You said:
"If it was MoDowd instead of Barbara Olson who died on 9-11, I think we would see a very different press these days."




No, these liberals abort their own children, what makes you think that they would be mad if someone removed a bit of the competition?


19 posted on 06/24/2006 9:58:05 PM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: airedale

So, we've got Al Qaida in Iraq and now it's confirmed that we have Al Qaida in New York Times. Al Qaida in Washington Post is also coming on strong.


20 posted on 06/24/2006 9:58:07 PM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: ashamedtobefromparkridge
911 and a few weeks after was the best weeks most print news in circulation in a long time and I would bet they are actually encouraging the Jihads to strike again in order to increase circulation again and get President Bush.
21 posted on 06/24/2006 9:59:32 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: airedale

22 posted on 06/24/2006 10:03:11 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: ashamedtobefromparkridge
I heard people were high fiving at the Ny Times on 9/11.

No!! Where did you hear this? Who could DO that?! It was in their own city!!!

23 posted on 06/24/2006 10:04:33 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget - And Never Again)
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To: airedale

"We waited so long that the competition caught up to us"

So, just like the dems, it's about competition. It's not about America.


24 posted on 06/24/2006 10:04:40 PM PDT by Explorer24 (Sorry America if you're attacked again, we had to be first to the presses.)
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To: donmeaker

Because they would be--they think fetuses are things, but someone who writes for the New York Times is one of the Beautiful People.


25 posted on 06/24/2006 10:06:32 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: airedale
He noted that there had been no proof that the previous story had endangered national security. "Our belief that it did not have any tangible impact has been borne out," he said.

Huh? How on earth would this scumbag Lickblow know THAT?

26 posted on 06/24/2006 10:12:34 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: OKIEDOC
This guy should be stood up, tied to a post and given the option of a blind fold before he hears for the last time the click of triggers being pulled.

Awwww, at least let him have a cigarette........ (sarcasm)

27 posted on 06/24/2006 10:18:38 PM PDT by D-Chivas
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To: airedale

OK, I'm not an idiot, so I realize that the purpose of this story and the wiretapping "scandal" story, among others, is to provide fodder for the vile MSM to attempt to sway the sheeple.

That said, I distinctly remember hearing, a while back, news about any financial transactions over a certain number being scrutinized. If you sell your home, that transaction is easily linked to the deposit so it wouldn't raise red flags. But if $30,000.00 suddenly showed up in your account without being traceable to a salary, sale or loan, it would be subject to scrutiny.

In the same vein, I distinctly recall hearing about "Echelon" which would review our emails and telephone calls for certain terminology. This, during the Clinton administration.

When my husband lived overseas, I was acutely aware that our conversations could be monitored, even the non-DSN calls. It never crossed my mind that they would be totally private, as I was placing or receiving international calls to a Middle Eastern country.

It is much ado about NOTHING!!! Why isn't the administration pointing this out, repeatedly!!!


28 posted on 06/24/2006 10:19:44 PM PDT by GatorGirl
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To: airedale

"the intense public interest in the NSA story showed that this is obviously a matter of intense public interest."

this guy's really articulate, isn't he ?


29 posted on 06/24/2006 10:22:56 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Lancey Howard
He has no idea if the wiretapping story hurt us because no Al Queda operative is dumb enough to say "We changed our methods because the NYT obligingly let us know what you were doing to intercept our communications".

Also, if a newspaper in a country where Al Queda has a presence was stupid enough to reveal Al Queda changes in operations and methods that were brought about by the dumb*ss NYT gift to terror, the publishers, editors and reporters of that paper would be given the same treatment as our POWs and hostages have received, and I ain't talking panties on the head.

While I don't admire much about the enemy, I do envy the way they keep their press from committing treason.
30 posted on 06/24/2006 10:28:19 PM PDT by M1911A1
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To: airedale
He noted that there had been no proof that the previous story had endangered national security.

How would he know, the stupid SOB. And why should we wait for proof that our national security has been endangered, anyway? What an a**. No wonder people are turning away from newspapers in droves.

31 posted on 06/24/2006 10:42:19 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: GatorGirl
It is much ado about NOTHING!!! Why isn't the administration pointing this out, repeatedly!!!

Well thank you for saying that! I said something quite similar last night. The President said after 9/11 that they were going to choke off AQ's money flow. I assumed then that they were going to be surveiling transactions all over the world, including the US. How else were they going to trace the money? A crystal ball? I feel like I am in the Twilight Zone with this being major news. But as I said last night, I guess the press wanted to be sure that our enemy "got it". They had to come out with something after Zark and some of his top people got roasted.

32 posted on 06/24/2006 11:30:24 PM PDT by daybreakcoming (If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. A. Lincoln)
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To: EDINVA

The fact that he's an idiot is prove positive that he's an idiot.


33 posted on 06/25/2006 12:12:44 AM PDT by watchin (Facts irritate liberals)
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To: airedale

Licorice: "You stupid dhimmis should hang all these seditious traitors
who repeatedly, willfully, and with absolutely NO FEAR, continue to violate 18 U.S.C. §798,
beginning with Keller and Lichtblau, or what is coming will only help the New York Times' circulation."


18 U.S.C. §798. Disclosure of Classified Information.
(a) Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information—
(1) concerning the nature, preparation, or use of any code, cipher, or cryptographic system of the United States or any foreign government; or
(2) concerning the design, construction, use, maintenance, or repair of any device, apparatus, or appliance used or prepared or planned for use by the United States or any foreign government for cryptographic or communication intelligence purposes; or
(3) concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or
(4) obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to have been obtained by such processes—Shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both. (b) As used in this subsection (a) of this section—
The term “classified information” means information which, at the time of a violation of this section, is, for reasons of national security, specifically designated by a United States Government Agency for limited or restricted dissemination or distribution; .........
The term “communication intelligence” means all procedures and methods used in the interception of communications and the obtaining of information from such communications by other than the intended recipients;
The term “unauthorized person” means any person who, or agency which, is not authorized to receive information of the categories set forth in subsection (a) of this section, by the President, or by the head of a department or agency of the United States Government which is expressly designated by the President to engage in communication intelligence activities for the United States.


"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
George Santayana


34 posted on 06/25/2006 3:47:07 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Diogenesis
He deserves a trial before he gets his just due.


35 posted on 06/25/2006 7:35:42 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: airedale
"Our belief....has been borne out." What an unbelievably arrogant statement. WHO THE HELL VOTED FOR YOU TO MAKE THIS DECISION???? If I don't agree with your decision as to what has harmed our national security, what do I do about it? Where do I go to vote you out? Who supervises you to make sure your decision is correct? What happens to you if it isn't?

Folks, we are living in a fascist dictatorship now.....not under President Bush and VP Cheney, as the nuts on the left would have us believe....no...the dictators are Eric Lichtblau, James Risen, and Dana Priest....they have declared themselves as the new arbiters of what we have the right to know and what our government is allowed to do in prosecuting a war...

How long are we supposed to put up with this before the revolution?

36 posted on 06/25/2006 8:29:03 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Meet the new dictatorship of America.....James Risen, Eric Lichtblau, and Dana Priest)
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To: USS Alaska
I'd like to see those posters put up on the streets in NY around the NY Times offices and on some of the taxis. I'd also like to see people toast Keller & Co when they go to restaurants and bars in NY thanking them for making it easier for the terrorist to kill New Yorkers. Make them uncomfortable every where they go.
37 posted on 06/25/2006 9:58:18 AM PDT by airedale ( XZ)
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