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Arnold: It's Not Easy Being Green
New West Notes ^ | 6/12/06 | Bill Bradley

Posted on 06/12/2006 10:04:53 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: ansel12

I live in California in a 2000 sq ft house. In the summer with our air set on 80 degrees, our bill runs $400-$600.
It is the price of the electricity here plus the heat. It gets above 100 degrees for weeks on end.

I don't consider myself rich and would love to see a $100 electric bill.


21 posted on 06/12/2006 11:46:35 AM PDT by sheana
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To: ProCivitas; NormsRevenge; calcowgirl; tubebender; forester; hedgetrimmer; dalereed; Czar; ...
What? Are we now all in a PBS kiddie sock-puppet show?

Holy Cripe! Gimme a break with this GANG-GREEN "consensus" crappola... paleeeeeeese!!! (whew!)

22 posted on 06/12/2006 11:49:28 AM PDT by SierraWasp ((2006)Arnold? Or NO Arnold? (2008)Gore? Or NO Gore? NO DEAL!!! (on either one))
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Perhaps you might want to read up.  He's doing far more than "playing to a crowd".
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California Climate Change Policy & Programs

California is pursuing many actions related to various aspects of climate change and is building on these to fashion a comprehensive strategy. California will do more, leveraging its vast intellectual and economic resources, in preparing for foreseeable future impacts and on reducing greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. In so doing we will create jobs, export goods and train our talented workforce.

Responding to climate change will not be an additional burden but will, in fact, promote economic development, ensure energy and economic security, and improve public health and safety.

graphic link to Climate Action Team
The Climate Action Team coordinates activities among California government agenciess.
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A voluntary greenhouse gas emission registry to record California companies greenhouse gas emissions inventory.
graphic link to Calif. Climate Change Advisory Committee
The Advisory Committee makes recommendations on a wide range of topics associated with climate change impacts on California
graphic link to CARB climate change website
California Air Resources Board's motor vehicle greenhouse gas emissions standards.
graphic link to Energy Action Plan
Plan to ensure adequate, reliable and reasonably-priced electricity and natural gas supplies.
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California's Integrated Energy Policy Reports.
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West Coast Governors' regional greenhouse gas reduction initiative.
graphic link to Greenhouse Gas Inventory
California greenhouse gas emissions inventory for 1990 to 2002.

23 posted on 06/12/2006 12:03:31 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: NormsRevenge; Carry_Okie
The former Mr. Universe has embraced the idea that California should sign no new contracts for the importation of electricity from conventional coal-fired plants, which currently supply about 15 percent of the state’s power. Instead, all new contracts must meet a standard which is equivalent to a combined cycle natural gas-fired power plant.

Cutting off supply once again... More manipulation.

24 posted on 06/12/2006 12:14:08 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: NormsRevenge; Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; Czar
It seems like a good idea, and might prove to be the seedbed for an alternative fuels for vehicles industry in California. It might also, given its sponsorship by venture capitalist Vinod Khosla, a co-founder of Sun Microsystems, run afoul on the sorts of charges that have bedeviled the stem cells initiative -- which was passed in large part due to Schwarzenegger’s support -- that backers have a conflict of interest because they seek to benefit from the research and development it would provide.

Ya think? It looks like they are trying to create another dot.com boom menagerie to me.

Doerr Firm Invests in 'Green Technology', Associated Press, 4/10/06

SAN FRANCISCO - Venture capitalist John Doerr made his name and fortune with early investments in Netscape Communications Corp., Amazon.com Inc., Google Inc. and other pioneering tech firms that went from scrappy startups to household names.

Now Doerr and his firm, Kleiner Perkins Caulfield & Byers, are placing big bets on an emerging sector he calls "green technology," one he believes could become as lucrative as information technology and biotechnology.

Vinod Khosla, a Kleiner Perkins associate who recently started his own venture capital firm, is financing a California ballot initiative to fund alternative energy initiatives through tax hikes on oil companies.


25 posted on 06/12/2006 12:29:47 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Green is the next big thing, yaknow.

Lots of folks are staking more than their money and reputations on it, politically and otherwise, that's for sure.

Whether it will end up being one more aria on the alternative energy Global Warming opera hype trail is not out of the realm of possibility, it sounds so good when ya hear it but I suspect you usually will find you can live without it after the singing is 'Fin'.

The benefits derived may well end up costing more than it is worth in the long run.


26 posted on 06/12/2006 12:40:26 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - "The Road to Peace in the Middle East runs thru Damascus.")
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To: calcowgirl
California--the new Piggy Bank for Venture Capitalists
CA: Valley man bankrolls clean-energy initiative - Oil Firms To Pay Tax To Fund Fuels, Cars

Vinod Khosla is bankrolling a ballot initiative that would tax oil producers and subsidize alternative energy -- technologies he invests in as one of the valley's most prominent venture capitalists.

If California voters embrace the November initiative, the tax on oil companies could generate $4 billion for projects intended to reduce the state's dependence on oil by 25 percent within a decade.

"We've got a climate crisis on our hands," said Khosla, a Republican who is joining Hollywood mogul Stephen Bing, a Democrat, to bankroll the initiative.

The latest proposal to use taxes to subsidize technological innovation in California comes as critics are still wrestling with the first such idea: Proposition 71, which authorized $3 billion in public money for stem-cell research. Khosla gave more than $500,000 to that campaign, while Bing gave nearly $260,000.

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27 posted on 06/12/2006 12:41:04 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: NormsRevenge

Follow the money.

This sham makes the Stem-Cell research scam look like kindergarten!


28 posted on 06/12/2006 12:44:01 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
Khosla, a Republican who is joining Hollywood mogul Stephen Bing, a Democrat, to bankroll the initiative.

You gotta just love these so-called "Republicans"

Khosla Vinod, Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, Partner  WESTLY FOR GOVERNOR, ID#1276462  2,500.00  9/22/2005
Khosla Vinod, Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, Partner  WESTLY FOR GOVERNOR, ID#1276462 19,800.00  9/28/2005

29 posted on 06/12/2006 12:52:48 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: O Neill

You're welcome. They're not called limosine libs and Gulfstream environmentalists fer nuthin'.


30 posted on 06/12/2006 12:55:18 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: calcowgirl
"Vinod Khosla, a Kleiner Perkins associate who recently started his own venture capital firm, is financing a California ballot initiative to fund alternative energy initiatives through tax hikes on oil companies."

I was wondering what I could vote NO on next. Now I know.

31 posted on 06/12/2006 1:36:06 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: mewzilla
They're not called limosine libs and Gulfstream environmentalists fer nuthin'

Clearly, you are wise to them...

What's amazing, and cracks me up every time, is that I have a feeling they really believe that you & I have NOT seen through the facade. My prediction...

This year will bring hurricanes to New England like in the 40s & 50s, sucking vast amounts of wintry, New England air to the Upper Atmosphere and likely, combined with other climate cyclical trends over which humankind has no significant impact, ending the Polar Cap Meltdown cycle & plunging the Planet into the Ice Age/Polar Cap Expansion cycle.

Emphasis will then shift from reducing Greenhouse Gases to proliferating them, and environmental concern will re-focus onto Saving The Caribou from freezing to death on their Northern Migration Trail. Proposals will be made by California's 'Climate Action Team', before President Bush leaves office, to restore the Alaskan Pipeline to GROUND LEVEL, thereby blocking the caribou (and simultaneously saving their species) from entering the ultra-frigid, Northern climes of the New Milennium...

32 posted on 06/12/2006 1:46:12 PM PDT by O Neill (Aye, Katie Scarlett, the ONLY thing that lasts is the land...)
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To: Czar

If it has any of the following names associated with it, I'll vote NO:
-Vinod Khosla, John Doerr, Reed Hastings, Brooks Byer, Warren Hellman, Eli Broad, Stephen Bing, etc.


33 posted on 06/12/2006 1:53:03 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: NormsRevenge; calcowgirl
Solomon said it best: "A fool and his money are soon parted."
34 posted on 06/12/2006 1:56:24 PM PDT by SierraWasp (California is MEXIFORNIA , MANANA!!! The European settlers suffer from GANG-GREEN, TODAY!!!)
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To: calcowgirl
So CA is going to jump out of the frying pan, into the fire!!!

From "DOT.COM BUBBLE" into bogus "GANG-GREEN!!!"

35 posted on 06/12/2006 2:01:31 PM PDT by SierraWasp (California is MEXIFORNIA , MANANA!!! The European settlers suffer from GANG-GREEN, TODAY!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

I'm voting for Angelides, this clown is dangerous.


36 posted on 06/12/2006 2:06:25 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: SierraWasp

That's what I'm seeing, as well as a back-door method to force the Kyoto Treaty onto the United States.

The greedy VC's, aided and abetted by Al Gore, Gavin Newsom, and Schwarzenegger et.al. will impose local, state, and regional restrictions equivalent to Kyoto. Ain't that sweet?

WASS!


37 posted on 06/12/2006 2:12:29 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: NormsRevenge
"...Schwarzenegger and his friend New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson, a leading Latino Democrat who served in President Bill Clinton’s Cabinet."

Now somebody is trying to paint Richardson as a Latino?? If somebody handed him 2 avocados, a lime, lemon, and asked him what other ingredients were needed to make Guacamole, I doubt he would even think of salt, let alone about 4 other common Latino ingredients.

38 posted on 06/12/2006 2:15:14 PM PDT by Cvengr (If he's Latino, why is he named as a son of Richard?)
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To: Cvengr

Bill Richardson

Also known as: William Blaine Richardson, William B. Richardson

Birth: November 15, 1947 in Pasadena, California, United States
Nationality: American
Ethnicity: Hispanic American
Occupation: Governor, cabinet official (U.S. federal government), congressional representative, ambassador, college teacher, management consultant
Source: Contemporary Hispanic Biography. Vol. 4. Gale, 2003.
Updated: 05/18/2006


Born on November 15, 1947, in Pasadena, CA; son of William and Maria Luisa Zubiran Richardson; married Barbara Flavin, 1972
Education: Tufts University, BA, 1970; Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy, Tufts University, MA, 1971.
Politics: Democrat.
Religion: Roman Catholic.
Addresses: Office--Office of the Governor, State Capitol, Room 400, Santa Fe, NM 87501.


39 posted on 06/12/2006 2:49:05 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Richardson was born on November 15, 1947, in Pasadena, California. His mother, Maria Luisa Zubiran, a homemaker, was from an upper class family from the southern Mexican state of Oaxaca. His father, William, was an American citizen and a high-ranking executive with Citibank in Mexico City, where Richardson grew up with his younger sister Vesta. Richardson returned to the United States as a teenager to attend Middlesex, a prep school located nearly his father's hometown of Boston. Later, as a politician seeking the working-class vote, he would downplay his socially and economically privileged upbringing.


40 posted on 06/12/2006 2:51:13 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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