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Bush Shuns Republicans' Stand to Return Illegals(W still doesn't get it!)
The Washington Times ^ | June 2, 2006 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 06/02/2006 3:46:47 PM PDT by kellynla

President Bush yesterday rejected House Republicans' stance that illegal aliens must return home, calling it "wrong and unrealistic" and saying many will have to be allowed to stay.

Speaking to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, a block from the White House, Mr. Bush also directly challenged businesses to hire only legal workers, and said those that don't should be prepared to face increased fines. In addition, he said both the House and Senate will have to compromise, but said voters expect a bill and he said that bill should tackle both enforcement and a pathway to citizenship for illegal aliens.

"The difficulty of this task is no excuse for avoiding it," he said.

Mr. Bush was making his first in-depth comments since the Senate passed its broad immigration bill last week, setting up a showdown over immigration policy with the House, which passed an enforcement bill in December.

Last Friday, and again on Sunday, Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner Jr., Wisconsin Republican and chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, said he cannot accept any approach that allows illegal aliens to stay in the country with the government's approval.

"The words 'path to citizenship' is a buzzword for amnesty. We ought to be honest -- it is amnesty," Mr. Sensenbrenner, a key House negotiator, said on NBC's "Meet the Press" program. He contends that more enforcement against employers would make it hard for illegal aliens to get jobs, encouraging them to go home. But Mr. Bush dismissed that argument.

"Listen, I appreciate the members are acting on deeply felt principles. I understand that. Yet I also believe that the approach they suggest is wrong and unrealistic," he said.

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KEYWORDS: 109th; adderofbushbashabot; aliens; amnesty; border; borders; bushbash; bushbot; cira; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration
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He said his own plan to allow illegal aliens with "a home, a family and a clean record" to stay is the "rational middle ground" between amnesty and the House Republicans' approach.

W still doesn't get it!
1 posted on 06/02/2006 3:46:49 PM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla

It would be unjust to aspiring legal immigrants to allow those here illegally to be given legal status without first returning to their home countries.


2 posted on 06/02/2006 3:49:08 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: A. Pole; hispanarepublicana

ping


3 posted on 06/02/2006 3:49:20 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Si. Jorge es loco.


4 posted on 06/02/2006 3:49:26 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Wisdom of the Leftist Tao, No.379: Women are men, men are children and children are adults.)
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To: kellynla
W hasn't changed, unfortunately. He was pretty clear about his position on this from the beginning. Why oh why did the elite decide to annoint him so early in 2000?

Let's hope they're not foolish enough to nominate another Bush ever again. Watch out for George P. in 2016.

5 posted on 06/02/2006 3:49:51 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: kellynla

The GOP elite is at war with the average American citizen.

SECURE THE BORDERS NOW!


6 posted on 06/02/2006 3:49:51 PM PDT by nj26 (Border Security=Homeland Security... Put Our Military on the Border! (Proud2BNRA))
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To: WorkingClassFilth
Si, esta enfermo en la cabeza.
7 posted on 06/02/2006 3:51:21 PM PDT by curiosity
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8 posted on 06/02/2006 3:53:09 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
W still doesn't get it!

No your wrong! He gets it. He just doesn't give a sh!t what we want or think or whats good for the country! This is his Harriet Myers, Ports deal moment of supidity and he's going though with it dammit! Break the law and piss on our country, WELCOME AMEGO!

9 posted on 06/02/2006 3:53:14 PM PDT by Bommer (Attention illegals: Why don't you do the jobs we can't do? Like fix your own countries problems!)
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To: B Knotts
It would be unjust to aspiring legal immigrants to allow those here illegally to be given legal status without first returning to their home countries.

I also love how the amnesty people keep saying the illegals will go to the "back of the line." I don't know how they get away with such BS. The line to get a greencard is over 20 years long in most places, yet under Bush's plan, the amnestied illegals get green cards in just SIX YEARS. And not only that, they get to say here while waiting!!! The poor saps who played by the rules have to stay at home.

Back of the line my arse.

11 posted on 06/02/2006 3:54:43 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: nj26

So, rather than deal with ILLEGAL workers, the government
is going to punish American Business....

If that isn't like liberals punishing honest firearms owning citizens because of crime....I don't know what it is!

And I like Bush, but unlike the demobots if we have differences we are not about to keep silent about them.

First Secure the borders!
Then we'll figure out what to do with the illegals once they can't get away.


12 posted on 06/02/2006 3:54:44 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: kellynla

Doesn't get what? Or does he just disagree with you?


13 posted on 06/02/2006 3:55:42 PM PDT by Young Scholar
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To: kellynla
W still doesn't get it!

Oh, he gets it alright, and he will keep shoving Mexico down our throats until his promises to Vicente Fox and his globalist buddies are kept, whether we like it or not.

"W" turned out to be nothing than a pitiful sock puppet, created to spread the globalist propaganda. Americans have caught on to his game, and we know it stinks.

14 posted on 06/02/2006 3:56:18 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: kellynla

sad to say, because I like W, but this is true.

When my 21 year old can see it and the president can't that is a sorry state of affairs.


15 posted on 06/02/2006 3:56:48 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: tet68
So, rather than deal with ILLEGAL workers, the government is going to punish American Business....

Those businesses that broke the law and hired illegals deserve to be punished.

There's no way we're going to get our borders under control unless we do it. In fact, it is more important than building a wall.

16 posted on 06/02/2006 3:57:03 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: kellynla
"The difficulty of this task is no excuse for avoiding it," he said.

That applies to the President's task of securing the border.

17 posted on 06/02/2006 3:57:04 PM PDT by kcar
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To: poker rat
Personally, I believe the Minutemen have harmed the effort because they have made the majority of anti-illegal immigration folks look radical.

1) Nice guys finish last. If a little radicalism is what it takes to get things moving, then so be it.

2) There wouldn't even be such a hot debate on illegal immigration if it weren't for the Minutemen. Congress would have sailed through an amnesty program by now and nobody would even have noticed.
18 posted on 06/02/2006 3:57:12 PM PDT by fr_freak
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Personally, I believe the Minutemen have harmed the effort because they have made the majority of anti-illegal immigration folks look radical. Therefore, it has made it harder for moderates to build the wall because people like the President are afraid of harsh deportation after the wall is built.

That doesn't make any sense

19 posted on 06/02/2006 3:57:13 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: kellynla

I think the DemocRATS have been successful in convincing President Bush that we need all these Mexicans to pay Social Security for all the retiring boomer babies.


20 posted on 06/02/2006 3:57:24 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Somebody get Jack a beer! He spent the whole day "fraggin'" Marines!)
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To: Smartass; JustPiper; SeaBiscuit; OKIEDOC; La Enchiladita; potlatch; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; ...

ping


21 posted on 06/02/2006 3:58:32 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: kellynla

SIGH!!!! :-(


22 posted on 06/02/2006 3:59:06 PM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: kellynla

G.W. is shunning the Republican House approach on criminal aliens and I'm shunning the donation of dollars to the party untill they are sent home.

These are Not American citizens and they have No right to be sucking off of the Safety-net like parasites.Nor do they have the right to go to American Universities at prices that are lower than what American citizen are required to pay.


23 posted on 06/02/2006 3:59:22 PM PDT by puppypusher
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I think the DemocRATS have been successful in convincing President Bush that we need all these Mexicans to pay Social Security for all the retiring boomer babies.

The problem is with SSI and all the benefits available to poor people, they'll end up taking more out of the government han they contribute.

24 posted on 06/02/2006 3:59:27 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: kellynla
"The difficulty of this task is no excuse for avoiding it," he said.

The people do not want a half assed solution just for the sake of having 'something' done. Seal the border and stop the onslaugght/invasion.

25 posted on 06/02/2006 4:01:04 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: kellynla

No, Bush gets it-- you don't.

Bush never promised you the expulsion of aliens. You and others have made it an issue. He has offered compromise positions you don't like.

There is nothing preventing you from fielding candidates of your preference.

For me, I am happy to agree with Bush and be against the Borderbots.


26 posted on 06/02/2006 4:01:25 PM PDT by lonestar67
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To: curiosity

It's not the RATS who convinced him. It's the big business donors who make billions off illegal slave labor and hand the American people the bill for taking care of them.

He knows which side his bread is buttered.


27 posted on 06/02/2006 4:02:45 PM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

It's deeper than that -- try New World Order.......


28 posted on 06/02/2006 4:03:17 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: curiosity

I agree. Tell that to a politician. If I was Bush, I'd give them all amnesty, make them citizens and then try and jail every one of them for using stolen identities to gain employment and being in possession of forged government documents.


29 posted on 06/02/2006 4:04:17 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Somebody get Jack a beer! He spent the whole day "fraggin'" Marines!)
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To: lonestar67

Enjoy it out there in the wilderness?


30 posted on 06/02/2006 4:04:43 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: kellynla
"W still doesn't get it"..

He gets it alright. He knows exactly what he is doing, I'm sorry to say.

sw

31 posted on 06/02/2006 4:05:10 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (Thank you, Minutemen)
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To: fr_freak

God Bless the Minutemen!


32 posted on 06/02/2006 4:06:28 PM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: Bommer

"Your" wrong or my wrong? How about "you're" wrong. And it's AMIGO.


33 posted on 06/02/2006 4:06:42 PM PDT by Conservative Yellow Rose
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

I like W too... but he's 'gonna eat this idiocy.


34 posted on 06/02/2006 4:08:06 PM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: kellynla

It doesn't matter what law is passed, Bush will do nothing to stop the illegals, nor will he ever try to send them back. He admits that he does not think it is realistic.

After all, he ha snot uysed all money allocated by Congress to hire border guards. That tells me that he wants open borders with Mexico and Canada to equalize the pay in the labor markets for Mexico and Canada. That means are wages are to be reduced while Mexico's wages will increase until there is some kind of equalibrium.

And in return for reducing our standard our standard of living, we get nothing.

The Senate bill even gives money to Mexico to protect its southern border!


35 posted on 06/02/2006 4:09:33 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


36 posted on 06/02/2006 4:10:52 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: LachlanMinnesota

37 posted on 06/02/2006 4:10:56 PM PDT by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I favor people becoming Americans. I know full well this is a nation of immigrants. I also know that a high percentage of our soldiers in Iraq are non-citizen hispanics.

This nation has endured far higher waves of immigration. The real question is whether we are up to the task of assimilation.

I have grown up most of my life in Texas so I think I understand how difficult these questions are but I do not agree with the wall builders and anti-amnesty crowd.


38 posted on 06/02/2006 4:11:04 PM PDT by lonestar67
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To: kellynla

" Mr. Bush drew praise yesterday from Sen. Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts, a key Democrat on the issue. He said Mr. Bush was "right on the mark" in telling Congress to get a broad bill done.
But Howard Dean, chairman of the Democratic National Committee, demanded the president do more to distance himself from the House bill."

Aren't you glad we have a Republican President who is so concerned about appeasing liberal Democrats?


39 posted on 06/02/2006 4:12:57 PM PDT by BW2221
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To: kellynla
W still doesn't get it!

He gets it. He just has a different agenda that long-term seeks to erase the borders of North America.

In so doing, he is abrogating his responsibility as President and disavowing the oath he took -=- especially that part about defending The Constitution against enemies foreign and domestic.
40 posted on 06/02/2006 4:13:57 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: kellynla
W still doesn't get it!

Umm, that's because, for the most part, Bush is not a particularly good President.

With Bush we don't have to worry about every judicial nominee, every government appointee, every deal struck with other nations, etc, etc, etc. Basically, we know Bush isn't some lefty nutcase. That alone makes him better than pretty much any Democrat (with the exception of your Zell Miller type Democrats). Example - Bush says NO THANKS to Kyoto. No Democrat would have done such a thing.

Problem is, as a Republican he simply isn't particularly conservative and, all things considered, a pretty poor President (in my opinion). His biggest flaw of all - this President simply cannot communicate coherently with the public. We are basically left with no right of center leader who can keep us in the game. We are being eaten alive by the mainstream media and a leftwing that, while rudderless, finds Bush a largely inept and hapless target.

Add to that this "Islamic democracy" project which I, and many other conservatives, opposed from the beginning and well..... Does anyone actually really believe Islam is a "religion of peace". How do you take anyone who repeatedly says this sort all that seriously?

41 posted on 06/02/2006 4:14:32 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: lonestar67

Assimilation must include the desires of those who would enter this country, don't you think? When did the Irish, Germans, or the many other people coming to this country demand that we change our culture to be as they wish? All of these cultures have been allowed to maintain their identity, as long as they bought in to the "American" culture, and learned out language.

I recall no "reconquista" movement by the Germans or anyone else.


42 posted on 06/02/2006 4:15:41 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: kellynla
President Bush yesterday rejected House Republicans' stance that illegal aliens must return home, calling it "wrong and unrealistic" and saying many will have to be allowed to stay.

GW purposely left the borders open for 5 years just so he could one day say that. To try and present honest Americans with a fait accompli. Bush's open borders policy has been 100% dishonest. Include most of the other hacks in DC. Include vile internationalist Senators such as Spector, McCain and Hagel. Democrat Senators are worse. They kept their mouths shut while they voted for the GW immigration amnesty more than Republicans

43 posted on 06/02/2006 4:16:39 PM PDT by dennisw (We should return to calling them Muhammadans -- Worshippers of Muhammad and maybe Allah)
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To: puppypusher
G.W. is shunning the Republican House approach on criminal aliens

Recall that GW had harsher criticism of the American citizen MinuteMen -- calling them vigilantes -- than he had against the foreign illegal invaders recently marching under foreign flags in the streets of America, while he sipped tea with Vincente in Mexico.
44 posted on 06/02/2006 4:19:45 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: lonestar67
The real question is whether we are up to the task of assimilation.

You got the shoe on the wrong foot. We needn't be up to the task. That's on the newcomers. LEGAL newcomers.

45 posted on 06/02/2006 4:20:03 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Mrs Zip

ping


46 posted on 06/02/2006 4:20:14 PM PDT by zip (((Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough become truth to 48% of all Americans (NRA)))))
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To: VU4G10
fence white house

George Bush sure likes his fence ....  around the White House. Keeps out the riff raff along with his platoons of Secret Service agents

47 posted on 06/02/2006 4:20:49 PM PDT by dennisw (We should return to calling them Muhammadans -- Worshippers of Muhammad and maybe Allah)
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To: lonestar67

Tis NOT the message you WANT to send to the whole world, "THAT YOU CAN FALSIFY DOCUMENTS, LIE, BORROW I.D, and then get a reward of "olli Olli oughts in FREE". Give credibility by honoring people who came to the USA via a PORT Of entry, and maybe an overextended visa, but not those who came in like this. It is to Encourage a million others to do the same.


48 posted on 06/02/2006 4:27:39 PM PDT by rovenstinez (qua)
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To: TomGuy

Bush never called the Minutemen "vigilantes" - he responded to a question about anyone "hunting migrant workers along the border" and said he was against that as vigilantism - I would think even you agree with that.


49 posted on 06/02/2006 4:31:51 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: lonestar67
"This nation has endured far higher waves of immigration."

That's not necessarily true. When the dependents of the irregular migrants (a U.N. term) arrive, we'll be looking at a total of 30 - 40 million. Some claim the Senate bill will permit up to 100 million. We've never had those numbers before.

One major difference is that immigrants from earlier eras were not a financial burden as the system of social services today's aliens enjoy didn't exist.
50 posted on 06/02/2006 4:33:09 PM PDT by BW2221
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