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How I am related to Genghis Khan
The Times ^ | May 30, 2006 | Mark Henderson

Posted on 05/29/2006 3:32:15 PM PDT by MadIvan

A US accountant has proof that he is descended from the Mongol warlord

THEY seem the unlikeliest of relatives. One was a fearsome warlord whose name became a byword for savagery. The other is a mild-mannered accountancy academic from Florida.

Yet Tom Robinson, 48, has become the first man outside Asia to trace his ancestry directly to Genghis Khan, the 13th-century Mongol leader whose empire stretched from the South China Sea to the Persian Gulf.

And, since his paternal great-great-grandfather emigrated to the United States from Windermere, Cumbria, many more descendants are probably scattered across the Lake District.

Genetic tests have revealed that Mr Robinson, a professor of accountancy at the University of Miami, shares crucial portions of his DNA with the Mongol ruler.

He has little in common with his infamous ancestor. He is not a keen horseman. Though a Republican, his politics are moderate. And while Genghis Khan may have fathered thousands of children, Professor Robinson and his wife, Linda, have no offspring.

“I’m not sure we have too many similarities,” he said. “I obviously haven’t conquered any countries, and though I’ve headed up accounting groups, I’ve done nothing as big as Genghis Khan.

“I’m proud to have such an interesting ancestor. I’ve been reading a lot about him since I found out about the link, and it does seem that his reputation is a little unfair.

“He conquered a lot of countries, but he had a pretty good system of government.”

Professor Robinson’s genetic past was uncovered by Brian Sykes, Professor of Human Genetics at the University of Oxford. His company, Oxford Ancestors, offers genetic tests to help people to trace their family trees.

Samples of Professor Robinson’s DNA were first taken four years ago. Tests suggested that his paternal forebears came from the Caucasus, while his mother’s ancestors originated in the Pyrenees.

Then a study in 2003 suggested that up to 16 million people worldwide — and 8 per cent of Asian men — were descended from Genghis Khan, and Professor Sykes decided to trawl through his database of approximately 25,000 male clients for a match.

The link is revealed by the Y chromosome, a packet of DNA that determines male sex, which is passed down from father to son. Men who share a Y chromosome are invariably descended from the same man at some point in the past, and the accumulation of mutations can be used to date the common ancestor. Women do not have a Y chromosome, so they cannot be tested in the same way, although millions are likely also to be descended from the warlord.

The 2003 study found that large numbers of Asian men from the regions that once made up the Mongol empire shared a single Y chromosome, and that this originated in a man who lived in the early 13th century.

Genghis Khan lived from about 1162 to 1227 and fathered hundreds or even thousands of children as his armies swept across the continent. This makes him by far the most probable source of the common chromosome.

Professor Sykes said: “Genghis Khan may have been the most successful male ever at spreading his genes. He would have passed his Y chromosome on to his sons and grandsons, who inherited his empire and with it an opportunity to spread it even further.

“We knew it exists widely in Asia today, but I was sure it must have moved further afield as well. Tom Robinson is the first man we’ve found who has it who is from a European or American background.”

Oxford Ancestors looked for Genghis Khan’s genetic signature by examining Y chromosomes for nine characteristic DNA markers. Professor Robinson’s Y chromosome is an exact match for eight of the nine markers, and one mutation is expected over the 800 years that separate him from the Mongol ruler.

“It is a very precise match,” Professor Sykes said.

Professor Robinson’s research into his family tree shows that his paternal great-great-grandfather, John Robinson, emigrated from the Windermere area to Illinois, placing the Genghis Khan chromosome firmly in Britain in the relatively recent past.

Ravdan Bold, the Mongolian Ambassador to the US, is holding a reception in Professor Robinson’s honour in Washington DC next month.

Any man who is interested in finding out whether he is descended from Genghis Khan can be tested by Oxford Ancestors for £195.

FROM MONGOLIA TO MIAMI

# Temüjin Borjigin acquired the name Genghis Khan (the king) when he became the Mongol emperor

# He united the Mongol and Turkic tribes of Central Asia, forming the Mongol empire in 1206

# The Mongol horde first conquered Western Xia in northern China. Over several centuries, the empire grew to include much of Eurasia.

# The Mongols also won victories in Eastern Europe, though never established colonies there

# Genghis Khan developed a mounted professional army of 200,000 men

# He had four legitimate sons with his primary wife, Borte, but had dozens if not hundreds more children

# In modern Mongolia he is regarded as a national hero


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At least he's not related to John Kerry.

Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 05/29/2006 3:32:18 PM PDT by MadIvan
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Ping!


2 posted on 05/29/2006 3:33:01 PM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan

I wonder if the prof. has an inexplicable attraction to furry hats.


3 posted on 05/29/2006 3:33:44 PM PDT by Shion (Jaded Southern Californian)
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To: MadIvan
Maybe just reminiscent of Genghis Khan.
4 posted on 05/29/2006 3:34:06 PM PDT by JennysCool (Auxiliary Member of the Anaheim Azusa and Cucamonga Sewing Circle Book Review and Timing Association)
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To: MadIvan

I wonder if we'll ever see the media use the following line; "Though a DEMOCRAT, his politics are moderate."


5 posted on 05/29/2006 3:34:35 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: JennysCool

Or, maybe the guy is just related to "Jen-Gis" Khan.


6 posted on 05/29/2006 3:35:46 PM PDT by SIDENET (I like liberals...they taste like CHICKEN.)
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To: JennysCool

Genghis Khan was the one that gave John F. Kerry that
hat back in 1968. It was in Cambodia if memory serves.


7 posted on 05/29/2006 3:38:19 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: MadIvan
Genghis Khan developed a mounted professional army of 200,000 men,

He did much more 'mounting'. ;)

8 posted on 05/29/2006 3:38:19 PM PDT by demlosers
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9 posted on 05/29/2006 3:38:49 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: MadIvan

I'm related to Ghengis Khan through Kevin Bacon.


10 posted on 05/29/2006 3:38:58 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: MadIvan

Yep!
Ol Genghis,....one of my more liberal cousins....

(for those who have trouble detecting my jokes, that was one there)


11 posted on 05/29/2006 3:40:22 PM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: tet68

Wasn't that when Christmas, 1968, fell in February?


12 posted on 05/29/2006 3:40:26 PM PDT by JennysCool (Auxiliary Member of the Anaheim Azusa and Cucamonga Sewing Circle Book Review and Timing Association)
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To: MadIvan
Yeah, well, I'm descended from Noah, so there.
13 posted on 05/29/2006 3:51:22 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God is, and (2) God is good?)
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To: MadIvan; Jim Robinson

A Robinson descended from Genghis Khan...

Any relation, Jim?


14 posted on 05/29/2006 3:51:47 PM PDT by stands2reason (You cannot bully or insult conservatives into supporting your guy.)
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To: Shion

Does the accountant ever have this urge to cook steaks by placing them under the saddle and then riding a hundred miles at full gallop?

(Or was that the Huns....)


15 posted on 05/29/2006 3:53:24 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: MadIvan

My Step-mother once dated Jackie Mason...

Does that make me famous?

Mark


16 posted on 05/29/2006 3:54:04 PM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: elcid1970

Well, if he ever thought to himself, "Hmmm, fermented mare's milk sounds yummy!" it's a dead giveaway.


17 posted on 05/29/2006 3:55:06 PM PDT by stands2reason (You cannot bully or insult conservatives into supporting your guy.)
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To: JennysCool

Yes, I should know, I was there then, and what a gift we got.

Oops, don't be confused, I was NEVER in Cambodia....


18 posted on 05/29/2006 3:55:53 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Aetius

Excellent point.


19 posted on 05/29/2006 3:56:29 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must)
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To: MadIvan

My namesake.


20 posted on 05/29/2006 4:02:02 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: stands2reason

On Trans-Mongolian Airlines (Ulan Baator to Anywhere!) they say,

"Kumis...the pause that refreshes!"

(this last sketch was... too silly!!)


21 posted on 05/29/2006 4:07:17 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: MarkL

No, but maybe Mason is related to Ghenghis Cohen..


22 posted on 05/29/2006 4:17:45 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: MadIvan
Though a Republican, his politics are moderate.

The insinuation is that Genghis Khan would have aligned himself with the Republican Party had it been in existence in his day. More MSM crap!

23 posted on 05/29/2006 4:18:44 PM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: MadIvan
Any man who is interested in finding out whether he is descended from Genghis Khan can be tested by Oxford Ancestors for £195.

What, no takers?

24 posted on 05/29/2006 4:29:23 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: MadIvan

Okay, who wants to be the first to compare the Genghis bloodline to the descendants of Christ as outlined in the DaVinci Code? C'mon, there has got to be more than just one, folks!


25 posted on 05/29/2006 4:31:08 PM PDT by PandaRosaMishima (she who tends the Nightunicorn)
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To: MadIvan
I’ve been reading a lot about him since I found out about the link, and it does seem that his reputation is a little unfair.

“He conquered a lot of countries, but he had a pretty good system of government.”

I'm sure they will say the same thing about Hitler, 700 years from now.

26 posted on 05/29/2006 4:32:56 PM PDT by opinionator
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To: MadIvan
"Genghis Khan lived from about 1162 to 1227 and fathered hundreds or even thousands of children as his armies swept across the continent. This makes him by far the most probable source of the common chromosome."

Yeah. Like he was the only one fathering kids with the conquered local women. The 200k horsemen who rode with were all eunuchs, I guess.

27 posted on 05/29/2006 4:43:48 PM PDT by Montfort (Check out the 200+ page free preview of The Figurehead by Thomas Larus at lulu.com/larus)
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To: MadIvan
"Any man who is interested in finding out whether he is descended from Genghis Khan can be tested by Oxford Ancestors for £195."

Uh-huh.....and for about half again as much, they can f**king guarantee a match.

Suckers.

28 posted on 05/29/2006 4:49:58 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: MadIvan

"...Genghis Khan may have fathered thousands of children,..."

-- -- --

JenJhis must have also been handy at lopping of lawyer's heads.


29 posted on 05/29/2006 4:57:44 PM PDT by HighWheeler (Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the country. - Marion Barry)
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To: Montfort

"The 200k horsemen who rode with were all eunuchs,..."

-- -- --

Reminiscent of John Kerry.


30 posted on 05/29/2006 4:59:36 PM PDT by HighWheeler (Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the country. - Marion Barry)
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To: MadIvan
Very interesting story, I Myself would much rather trace my ancestry back too Alexander the Great. Now that Man laid the foundation for the Roman Empire.
31 posted on 05/29/2006 5:18:09 PM PDT by Liberal_in_Austin
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To: MadIvan

That's no big thing, so was Arthur Dent.


32 posted on 05/29/2006 5:19:42 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: MadIvan

Ghengis Khan Killed 99% of my family. I want my reperations. preferably in the form of cash but a check will do.
25$ charge on all returned checks.


33 posted on 05/29/2006 5:23:45 PM PDT by Ainast
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To: MadIvan

Though a Republican, his politics are moderate.

D***ed leftist media. Linking staunch Republicans to a brutal dictator.


34 posted on 05/29/2006 5:58:18 PM PDT by Chickensoup (The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.)
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To: MadIvan

I have visions of a swordfight on some high catwalk and Ghengis saying "No I am your ancestor!" after he has cut off Tom's hand.


35 posted on 05/29/2006 6:03:49 PM PDT by xp38
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To: martin_fierro
Genghis Khan may have been the most successful male ever at spreading his genes.

It would have been John Holmes if not for money shot.

36 posted on 05/29/2006 6:04:44 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: MarkL

Wow...Jackie was in my Aunt's restaurant a few years ago.


37 posted on 05/29/2006 6:06:40 PM PDT by xp38
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To: Chickensoup

On the contrary, I think they were trying to qualify him by saying although a Republican he isn't particularly conservative (he's a Republican but not one of Those people, you know, wink wink). Because typically, this is the type of thing liberals love, to claim some name drop-able ancestry.


38 posted on 05/29/2006 6:43:48 PM PDT by visualops (If you build it... www.visualops.com ...they won't come. Build the fence!)
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To: visualops

On the contrary, I think they were trying to qualify him by saying although a Republican he isn't particularly conservative (he's a Republican but not one of Those people, you know, wink wink). Because typically, this is the type of thing liberals love, to claim some name drop-able ancestry.

We will have to disagree here. Leftists see conservatives as being similar to dictators such as Hitler and Kahn..


39 posted on 05/29/2006 6:51:25 PM PDT by Chickensoup (The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.)
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To: GingisK
My namesake.

Your namesake?!? ;-)

40 posted on 05/29/2006 7:00:27 PM PDT by Ghengis (Alexander was a wuss!)
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To: MadIvan

He conquered a lot of countries, but he had a pretty good system of government.”
______________________________________________________

Talk about understating and misrepresenting the truth (profs do that a lot) Tenuchin aka genghis spread slaughter and destruction everywhere he went. Nothing worse ever recorded except maybe by the years of Muslim expansion and all the years of communist control.


41 posted on 05/29/2006 7:08:00 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: Chickensoup
Leftists see conservatives as being similar to dictators such as Hitler and Kahn..

Oh, I don't disagree with you there. But it is typical of liberals to apply that sort of intellectual dishonesty such as ignoring someone's true nature- witness their adoration of Stalin and Che and Castro etc. However, I did go back and reread that portion, and I missed the qualifier (He has little in common with his infamous ancestor... // ...Though a Republican...). So I was definitely mistaken in this case.
42 posted on 05/29/2006 7:59:17 PM PDT by visualops (If you build it... www.visualops.com ...they won't come. Build the fence!)
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To: elcid1970

Probably a periodic urge to commit a massacre or two [say, when the accounting client is particularly unpleasant] could qualify.


43 posted on 05/29/2006 10:44:47 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Ghengis
Well, well. I guess we are twins. I never could spell. Good grief, you even registered before I did.

I say, "Peaceful coexistance between you and me, kill the rest in some painfully slow way".

44 posted on 05/30/2006 6:44:45 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK
Well, well. I guess we are twins. I never could spell. Good grief, you even registered before I did.

Being the first born twin, I can go for that.

I say, "Peaceful coexistance between you and me, kill the rest in some painfully slow way".

OK...But I get first choice on the horses and the babes. And -- most importantly -- I pick the brand of beer!

45 posted on 05/30/2006 6:56:29 AM PDT by Ghengis (Alexander was a wuss!)
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