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Honda has every car in Indianapolis 500
Yahoo! Sports ^ | May 23, 2006 | Bruce Martin

Posted on 05/26/2006 8:05:32 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot

INDIANAPOLIS (Ticker) - Robert Clarke, the president of Honda Performance Development, can't help but consider the irony of Honda's circuitous route to supplying every car in the starting field for the 90th Indianapolis 500.

Clarke remembers that difficult initial experience in 1994, when Honda was new to IndyCar racing and arrived at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway with Team Rahal.

It was obvious from the start that the new engine company wasn't up to speed and Bobby Rahal was in danger of missing the race for the second year in a row. Rahal made the difficult decision to abandon the engine at Indy in the second week of qualifications and made the field in another brand.

But Honda would return the following year, started on the outside of the front row with Scott Goodyear and nearly won the race.

Honda returned to the Indianapolis 500 in 2003, but it was Toyota-powered Gil de Ferran that drove into victory lane that day, giving team owner Roger Penske a record 13th Indy 500 win.

Buddy Rice gave Honda its first Indy 500 winner in 2004 in an ironic twist Rahal was his team owner. Dan Wheldon gave Honda its second Indy win last year as it had become the dominant engine in the sport.

"We've gone the whole spectrum," Clarke said. "We were the first Japanese make there, we failed to qualify, were laughed out and now we own the entire starting field. We've gone full circle."

Honda is now the sole supplier to the Indy Racing League and as many fans of the 500 arrive early enough to see the sun rise over the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.

"It is big," Clarke said. "As far as Honda goes, clearly we understand and appreciate what that event means. It was a key part of our decision to be here and to support the entire field. It's pretty cool to have a Honda engine in all 33 cars. The satisfaction of meeting that challenge remains."

The Indianapolis 500 has always cast a magical name to racing enthusiasts in Japan. It's the epic, bigger-than-life event that lures many a visitor from the Far East to the Indianapolis Motor Speedway every year.

In the 1990s, Honda decided to build an oval race track Twin Ring Motegi. Just outside the gates to that facility is the Honda Museum, which proudly exhibits several cars that have raced in the Indianapolis 500.

Clarke's interest in the Indy 500 grew at an early age. He was the son of a Navy fighter pilot and when he grew up in Coronado, California his father took him to an SCCA race when he was 8 years old.

"I was hooked from that weekend," Clarke said.

He would attended graduate school at Notre Dame in South Bend, Indiana and the industrial design student got a chance to attend his first Indy 500 in 1974.

"My wife and I went on pole day and then we came back for the race," Clarke said. "I was in awe. The speed of the cars was something I had never experienced before. That's what I recall the most was the speed."

His first job in racing was with Honda in 1980 and he ultimately became the president of Honda Performance Development.

Honda is now a partner in the IRL. It's betting that the series will grow and wants to remain a key player.

"A great deal of time and energy has been pointed at our new engine program, and we feel this type of program is perfect for us at this point in our history," said IRL president and chief operating officer Brian Barnhart. "Just a few short years ago we welcomed an expanded roster of manufacturers to the series, and that helped us achieve some goals that we had set at that time.

"In this era of value, a single-engine program will allow better cost containment and put us in a position to attract expanded teams or new teams to our series."

There are a mix of rewards and challenges that come with being the only engine in the series.

"The benefits are we win every race," Clarke said.

There are plenty of challenges, though, mostly ensuring a supply of engines for the entire field. In a little over four months since announcing it would make all the engines, HPD has had to make sure there are enough parts available to rebuild the engines as well as increase the staff for trackside support.

"It was a major project within the very limited time that we had," Clarke said. "But I feel we have crested the hill and we're on the downhill slope of that now. Getting ready was the big job."

Defending Indy 500 winner and defending IRL champion Wheldon admitted Honda was a major factor in his championship run, but the whole series should prosper now that all teams have equal engines

His former teammate at AGR, Dario Franchitti, said the challenge remains the same to beat the other guy.

"I think first of all Honda should be applauded for what they've done in stepping up and supplying the whole series," Franchitti said. "I've enjoyed a long relationship with them. This is my ninth season with Honda. You have to do your talking on the track.

"There's going to be no favorites from Honda. They've made that very clear."


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KEYWORDS: automakers; automotive; honda; indy500
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Sneaky Japanese.
1 posted on 05/26/2006 8:05:34 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot
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To: 1rudeboy; Mase; expat_panama
Ping.
2 posted on 05/26/2006 8:05:59 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Beware the Rothschild Int'l Banking Cartel !!!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Shouldn't the correct title be "Every car in Indianapolis 500 a Honda"?


3 posted on 05/26/2006 8:09:23 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Toddsterpatriot

What ever happened to the Chevroreys?


4 posted on 05/26/2006 8:09:43 AM PDT by GunnyHartman (The DNC, misunderestimating Dubya's strategery since 2000.)
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To: GunnyHartman

Fuzzy dice doesnt do well at 225mph


5 posted on 05/26/2006 8:12:40 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Perdogg
Shouldn't the correct title be "Every car in Indianapolis 500 a Honda"?

Hmm, I guess there are a LOT of Hondas .....

6 posted on 05/26/2006 8:14:10 AM PDT by AbeKrieger (A country without secure borders will not long be a country.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Honda is the only serious engine company in the world.


7 posted on 05/26/2006 8:14:25 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (If you build it, they won't come...)
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To: GunnyHartman
"What ever happened to the Chevroreys?"

Racing provides intangibles. Design experience, advertising exposure, innovation, boosts morale in the division. None of these show up on the quarterly report, so the wise leaders at GM have minimized their effort in favor of bringing you things like this:


8 posted on 05/26/2006 8:17:20 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I am an avid of flat track Motorcycle racing. Harley davidson ownd the tracks a few uears back. They were the only manufacturer in the running. Then along came Honda.

They started a program to win, they hired the best riders, including Bubba Shobert and Ricky Graham, and before long they were kicking Harley's butt.
Then they must have gotten bored with their winning, they stopped making the engine and parts and now only a few Honda's are left, and I understand they have to make their own parts to keep them in the race.

Harley decided to do what Honda did in the big Formula road races, they got an Engine designed by Porsche and hired great riders, but they never amounted to much in the big leagues of motorcycle road racing. The japanese can do great things when they want to, I hope the American manufacturers decide to spend more and get into the race, Its an atrocity that Honda supplies all of the Engines in a major race like Indy.


9 posted on 05/26/2006 8:18:51 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Does the pace car have a Honda engine also?


10 posted on 05/26/2006 8:19:54 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Honda is now the sole supplier to the Indy Racing League and as many fans of the 500 arrive early enough to see the sun rise over the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.

The first phrase has nothing to do with the second and I like cats.

Seriously, does this mean that every team in the Indy Racing League has chosen Honda engines because they are technically superior to every other company's engines or did they get an exclusive contract where everyone has to use their engines even if they want to use some other engine?

11 posted on 05/26/2006 8:20:37 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Never ask a Kennedy if he'll have another drink. It's nobody's business how much he's had already.)
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To: brownsfan

Good God - it's the lesbianmobile.


12 posted on 05/26/2006 8:20:38 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Support American sovereignty - boycott employers of illegal aliens)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Ford has every car in Champ Car. So what's your point?


13 posted on 05/26/2006 8:21:35 AM PDT by 38special (I mean come'on.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
"We've gone full circle."

Was it Sheila Jackson Lee who famously said she had changed her mind by "doing a 360 on that"?

Going around a circle gets you back to where you started. That's not what he's trying to say. English is a tool. Learn to use it well.

14 posted on 05/26/2006 8:23:16 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Never question Bruce Dickinson!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Always enjoyed the time trials better than the race.

Open track practice in the morning before the Time trials and then the trials lasted until 6PM local time.

The race itself is over in less time than a NFL or MLB game.

15 posted on 05/26/2006 8:26:41 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot


16 posted on 05/26/2006 8:26:52 AM PDT by prognostigaator
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To: brownsfan

Ain't that the truth. The fugliest car I've ever seen.


17 posted on 05/26/2006 8:27:30 AM PDT by GunnyHartman (The DNC, misunderestimating Dubya's strategery since 2000.)
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To: brownsfan

The Axtec sreams designed by committee.


18 posted on 05/26/2006 8:29:33 AM PDT by Hydroshock (When you put party over principle, do not be surprised to see a party with no principles come about.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

It's been 12 years since Scott Goodyear squeaked his way into the field in a Honda? Dang.


19 posted on 05/26/2006 8:33:17 AM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: Toddsterpatriot

So where do i enter my Accord? Shoot, best seats to this race would be on the track. Varoom.........lol!


20 posted on 05/26/2006 8:38:34 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Toddsterpatriot

And I hear they will all be running on ethanol at Indy next year!


21 posted on 05/26/2006 8:39:25 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: brownsfan

The "Aztec Two Step"..


22 posted on 05/26/2006 8:47:02 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Not to be picky....

But the cars are not Hondas, only the engines are made by Honda. The cars are made by 2 or 3 different manufacturers. I know Dallara is the most common but I forget the names of the others.


23 posted on 05/26/2006 8:48:47 AM PDT by marine86297 (I'll never forgive Clinton for Somalia, my blood is on his hands)
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To: brownsfan

That car's awesome.....it'll be a real collector's item in a few years. :^O


24 posted on 05/26/2006 8:50:58 AM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: marine86297

I own a 225 Honda outboard on my pontoon. 55 mph on the Lake...very quiet and very smooth.


25 posted on 05/26/2006 8:52:38 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Mikey_1962
"Honda is the only serious engine company in the world."

I respectfully disagree.



The Corvette Z06 achieves 500 horsepower in an approximately 3130-pound vehicle and delivers 0-60 performance in less than 4 seconds, quarter-mile in less than 12 seconds and a top speed of more than 190 mph on a race track. And 25 mpg highway and all this for under $67K MSRP.
26 posted on 05/26/2006 8:54:33 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Pushrods.


27 posted on 05/26/2006 8:56:01 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: 38special

CART/Champ Sports.....the bluepront for killing a sport


28 posted on 05/26/2006 9:02:52 AM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Honda has every Car in Indianapolis 500

We taught them well.

29 posted on 05/26/2006 9:05:17 AM PDT by Mase
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To: GunnyHartman
What ever happened to the Chevroreys?

The Chevrolet Ilmor engine was the powerhouse that Honda unseated. The year Honda became dominate, Chevrolet was getting spanked with their Ilmor. They turned to Cosworth mid to late season for an engine. The last "Chevy" engines to run in the IRL were actually Ford Cosworth engines with a Bowtie on the valve covers.

Toyota left the IRL this year to pursue the NASCAR crowd. In the longer term, the 500 and the IRL fans will be better served if there are competitive engine suppliers.

30 posted on 05/26/2006 9:05:20 AM PDT by IamConservative (Who does not trust a man of principle? A man who has none.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

"Pushrods"

yeaaaaaaaa...don't cha just love 'em! LOL


31 posted on 05/26/2006 9:05:58 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Hydroshock

Actually, the Aztec was designed (styled anyway) by some old gal Chevy hired from Renault. Can't blame her, just the dunce who hired her.


32 posted on 05/26/2006 9:06:36 AM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: Toddsterpatriot

"Sneaky Japanese."

Building the engines that Americans won't...


33 posted on 05/26/2006 9:07:31 AM PDT by Go_Raiders ("Being able to catch well in a crowd just means you can't get open, that's all." -- James Lofton)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

That's sad.


34 posted on 05/26/2006 9:07:55 AM PDT by Beckwith (The liberal media has picked sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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To: kellynla

Actually, yes, I love pushrods. Anytime you turn less then 7K, they are the way.


35 posted on 05/26/2006 9:08:14 AM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: kellynla
"Honda is the only serious engine company in the world."

I respectfully disagree.


The L-57 is a serious engine, but GM is not a serious engine COMPANY.
36 posted on 05/26/2006 9:10:10 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (If you build it, they won't come...)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican; GunnyHartman
"Fuzzy dice doesnt do well at 225mph?"

You're a littled behind the times. LOL

June 17-18 24 Hours of Le Mans, Circuit des 24 Heures du Mans, Le Mans, France

http://www.corvetteracing.com/history/2006releases/midohio/midohio3.shtml
37 posted on 05/26/2006 9:18:45 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Mikey_1962
"but GM is not a serious engine COMPANY."

Well that's your unsubstantiated opinion.

A few million engines, a few million satisfied customers and victorious racers would disagree with you. LOL
GM was building "serious engines" when the Japanese were riding around in rickshaws. LOL
38 posted on 05/26/2006 9:24:36 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Mikey_1962
Honda is the only serious engine company in the world.

LOL

You MUST be kidding.

39 posted on 05/26/2006 9:31:17 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: kellynla

You are correct. The Chevy small block is a good example. But it would seem here's more development capability in the Northstar.


40 posted on 05/26/2006 9:32:08 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Who, (no he/she wasn't Japanese!) founded the Indiapolis race 90 years ago?


41 posted on 05/26/2006 9:35:34 AM PDT by Young Werther
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To: God luvs America


Beg to differ. No serious driver wants in on irl oval driving , none.

Take a long look at CHAMP Car and their massive ladder system and close relationship with F1.Drivers from Europe drive in CHAMP.Drivers from South Amercia want in also.

CHAMP has created a large organization and is in a postion to dominate now,and long into the future.

Irl ? They`re just going in circles.


42 posted on 05/26/2006 9:36:09 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: B Knotts
Honda is the only serious engine company in the world. LOL
You MUST be kidding.


No

Just read Ward's Auto World "10 Best Engines" for the last 10 years.

Honda always does well and this year has 2 engines in the top ten.

GM with FAR more money and FAR resources has only the 4.2L Vortec in the top ten.
43 posted on 05/26/2006 9:46:41 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (If you build it, they won't come...)
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To: Mikey_1962
Honda has some decent engines, but they are far from "the only serious engine company in the world." They tend toward high-rpm, low-torque engines.

Here's a more interesting engine:

It won at Sebring. And it's a diesel.

44 posted on 05/26/2006 9:56:38 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Mikey_1962
"Honda is the only serious engine company in the world."


"Just read Ward's Auto World "10 Best Engines" for the last 10 years.

Honda always does well and this year has 2 engines in the top ten."

Okaaaaaay, using your reference

2006

Audi 2 L I4 FSI turbocharged DOHC
Audi 4.2 L V8 DOHC
BMW 3 L I6 DOHC
DaimlerChrysler 5.7 L V8 Hemi Magnum
Ford 4.6 L V8 Modular SOHC
General Motors 2 L I4 Ecotec LSJ supercharged DOHC
General Motors 2.8 L V6 High-Feature turbocharged DOHC
Mazda 2.3 L I4 MZR DISI turbocharged DOHC
Nissan 3.5 L V6 DOHC
Toyota 3.5 L V6 DOHC


Now, I may not be as knowledgeable as you but I don't see any Hondas listed but I do see two GM's listed.
45 posted on 05/26/2006 10:08:55 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Para-Ord.45

the best thing CHAMP can due is merge with IRL; it ain't nuthin without the 500....


46 posted on 05/26/2006 10:12:38 AM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: Mikey_1962
Hmmm...according to Wikipedia, there were no Honda engines on the list for 2006. There were, however, two GM engines, two Audi engines and one Ford engine on the list:

Ward's 10 Best Engines

2006:

Audi 2 L I4 FSI turbocharged DOHC
Audi 4.2 L V8 DOHC
BMW 3 L I6 DOHC
DaimlerChrysler 5.7 L V8 Hemi Magnum
Ford 4.6 L V8 Modular SOHC
General Motors 2 L I4 Ecotec LSJ supercharged DOHC
General Motors 2.8 L V6 High-Feature turbocharged DOHC
Mazda 2.3 L I4 MZR DISI turbocharged DOHC
Nissan 3.5 L V6 DOHC
Toyota 3.5 L V6 DOHC

47 posted on 05/26/2006 10:17:06 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Para-Ord.45
"Irl ? They`re just going in circles."

Yup, everyone knows right turns are so much more difficult than left turns. Who cares if you cannot see most of the track? Good racing is good racing regardless of the track type, road, off road, oval, drag etc. As long as I can see 90%+ of the track I want to be there. On road races, the only way is TV and a DVR.

48 posted on 05/26/2006 10:33:44 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (The difference between democrats and terrorists is the terrorists don't claim to support the troops)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
You know, I remember when the Indy 500 used to be the Indy 500, and some guy - can't remember the team or driver - reworked an old schoolbus engine and came in 10th, I believe.

Anyway, I would like to see Indy be Indy again, and not just another race with Tony George Approved engines, or Tony George approved chassis, or Tony George approved rules or....

It should be open to any and all comers. Here's the basic rules: certain width, height, weight, displacement etc... buy it, build it whatever...

I saw an ad in the paper the day before the track opened that offered a two for one coupon for opening day tickets. I think that's a first.

49 posted on 05/26/2006 10:45:22 AM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: N. Theknow
Always enjoyed the time trials better than the race.
Open track practice in the morning before the Time trials and then the trials lasted until 6PM local time.
The race itself is over in less time than a NFL or MLB game.

You ever been to an NFL game? Let me assure you that the game itself is sometimes anticlimatic. It's the build-up and tailgating that is the real 'game'.

50 posted on 05/26/2006 11:00:04 AM PDT by mc5cents
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