Posted on 05/24/2006 2:52:40 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
"It's some place in between what everybody is talking about, either amnesty or kick them out," Burton said. "The thing to do is figure out how to assimilate these people."
Nice. More amnesty talk coming from House.
It's clear that the calmer heads in the GOP caucus realize that HR 4437 is nothing but a starting point for discussion.
MSM working them over in support. Creating "trends" and "inevitablility."
People like Pence who have Presidential ambitions need big money for the race. Hence his flipperoo, Charmber of Commerce provided bill he can flout as his own, and pleasant attributions in the liberal MSM.
""WASHINGTON - With Senate passage of an immigration reform bill likely, key GOP senators on Tuesday urged Republicans in the House to rally around their party in an election year and allow negotiations on a final measure."""
Yeah, the House members know it's an election year - for all the House. That's keeping some of them from flipping for the money, they still got to win in November.
The MSM needs to float more "Americans support amnesty" loaded polls and stories to flip them I think.
I love Pence's idea and the WH and Senate should seriously look at it.
Why not? He's marginalized the American public. If the GOP sows our sovereingty to the wind, they'll reap the whirlwind.
"It's clear that the calmer heads in the GOP caucus realize that HR 4437 is nothing but a starting point for discussion."
Sorry, but with all due respect, you took the MSM/lobbyist constructed narrative full hook.
All the memes of inevitability and reaosnability and "middle ground" stake by Bush/Dems and crafted by MSM will be hard to reconcile when a final Senate bill is past and most people will then start thinking about it.
(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")
"Calmer heads" is code word for supporting liberal policy like the garbage the Senate is passing. Whenever I hear a politician say he's "growing" in his office or saner minds are prevailing that generally means they've moved leftward in their position, just as the media wants them to do.
"I don't want my own party to marginalize the president on an issue of great national importance," said Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.,"
LOL! invoking guilt based on loyalty!
Graham's out front on this. He must be thinking about running for Pres in 2008, need the Chamber of Commerce and other big money, figuring this atrocity will be forgotten by most by then.
But I got to admit that meme does work to a degree, the "loyalty to Bush let him screw us" nervous reaction.
People ARE thinking about it, which is why you see people like Pence stepping away from the precipice.
They see they're in a conundrum: 1)Get the hell beat out of them for passing what some consider a bad bill with elements from the Senate legislation in it, or 2) Get the hell beat out of them for not passing any bill and thus leaving the status quo in place for the forseeable future.
I guess this is much more important than the issue of illegal immigration.
"Calmer heads"
LOL.
I liked the way Bush framed his radical proposal in his speech as the "middle ground" between the protestors and the racists. MSM took that bait. He created a crisis by defunding border and enforcement bills he signed to now when he proposes his "comprehensive plan" of amnesty plus even more importation of workers. His team concocted a false dilemma that enforcement and amnesty must be tied together.
But he had to. With talking points and photo-ops of promises of security and policing coupled to his amnesty, amnesty would likely not pass.
The Senate bill gives a cover story to the supporters that they are voting for our security.
I'm with you. Pence's proposal is the true lifeboat for our President out of the illegal immigration morass.
Exactly.
I want to renounce my citizenship and become an illegal alien. Can anyone here at Free Republic tell me how to do it. I'm not kidding.
"People ARE thinking about it, which is why you see people like Pence stepping away from the precipice."
Everyone I now is feeling worse and worse, not better, about what's going on.
By the way, Pence's move is combined with what I've seen, an opening campaign for President. He's doing it for the money. If he thinks the people will support his bill over a tough one he drank the Koolaid.
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