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U.S. Air Force Is Seeking Alternative Jet Fuel
The New York Times/International Herald Tribune ^ | MAY 14, 2006 | Thom Shanker

Posted on 05/18/2006 10:50:55 AM PDT by kellynla

When an F-16 lights up its afterburners, it consumes nearly 28 gallons of fuel per minute. No wonder, then, that the Air Force uses more than half of all the fuel the U.S. government consumes each year.

The Air Force may not be in any danger of suffering inconveniences from scarce or expensive fuel, but it has begun looking alternative fuels for its jets.

While the military has been a leader in adopting some technologies, any effort to hit a miles-per-gallon fuel efficiency rating has taken a back seat when the mission is to haul bombs farther and faster or push 70-ton tanks across a desert to topple an adversary. (The Abrams tank, for example, gets less than 1 mile per gallon under certain combat conditions.)

"Energy is a national security issue," said Michael Aimone, the Air Force assistant deputy chief of staff for logistics.

The United States is unlikely ever to become fully independent of foreign oil, he said, but the intent of the Air Force project is "to develop enough independence to have assured domestic supplies for aviation purposes."

By late this summer, on the hard lake beds of the Mojave Desert, where the Air Force tests its most secret and high- performance aircraft, a lumbering B-52 is scheduled to take off in an experiment in which two of the giant bomber's engines will burn jet fuel produced not from crude oil but from natural gas. The plane's six other engines will burn conventional jet fuel - just in case.

The Air Force consumed 3.2 billion gallons, or 12.1 billion liters, of aviation fuel in the 2005 financial year, which was 52.5 percent of all fossil fuel used by the government, Pentagon statistics show. The total Air Force bill for jet fuel last year topped $4.7 billion.

(Excerpt) Read more at iht.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: energy; jetfuel; usaf; usairforce

1 posted on 05/18/2006 10:50:57 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla

rubber bands?


2 posted on 05/18/2006 10:53:03 AM PDT by llevrok (Stop the Latin Insurgents !!!)
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To: kellynla

For some reason I don't see them using ethanol...


3 posted on 05/18/2006 10:53:33 AM PDT by flashbunny
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To: kellynla

Does anybody here know if or is it even possible to run an airplane engine on diesel?..........


4 posted on 05/18/2006 10:54:12 AM PDT by Red Badger (Liberals reward sloth and revere incompetence...........)
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To: llevrok

DiLithium Crystals......


5 posted on 05/18/2006 10:54:43 AM PDT by Red Badger (Liberals reward sloth and revere incompetence...........)
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To: Red Badger

I doubt it. It would probably have to have too large of a volume under combustion at once to generate enough power.


6 posted on 05/18/2006 10:55:14 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (Black holes are where God divided by zero. - Steven Wright)
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To: kellynla
The fact that we call this "alternative" alone, tells you its not as good as the original, and is a substitute.

If they are serious, why not look for something better then the fuel they use, not a mere "substitute" for it?

And instead of doing this themselves, why not offer the incentives to the private sector to let them try and develop it instead, this way if they fail, taxpayers aren't on the hook?

7 posted on 05/18/2006 10:55:32 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Red Badger

The LM-2500's on Cruiser's & Destroyers burn basically diesel.


8 posted on 05/18/2006 10:55:33 AM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: neodad

Yes, but they're not Cruisin' at 20000 feet.....


9 posted on 05/18/2006 10:57:08 AM PDT by Red Badger (Liberals reward sloth and revere incompetence...........)
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To: Red Badger
Does anybody here know if or is it even possible to run an airplane engine on diesel?..........

Junkers Jumo 205

10 posted on 05/18/2006 10:57:46 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: kellynla

What's that, no lead?


11 posted on 05/18/2006 10:59:01 AM PDT by RexBeach ("There is no substitute for victory." -Douglas MacArthur)
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To: kellynla

Maybe not a bad idea, use some DoD dollars to give Hydrogen research a push - the commercial sector will definitely take note.


12 posted on 05/18/2006 10:59:41 AM PDT by Sax
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To: Red Badger

Diesel, JET-A, and K-1 are more or less the same stuff.


13 posted on 05/18/2006 11:00:48 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Red Badger

It is possible.

The Army FMTV can use DF-2 or JP-8 in its diesel engine, as can the Army M-1A2 tank.

Purdue and RPI have demonstrated thermonuclear fusion in a can: Acetone has the H1 hydrogen molecules replaced with deterium H2, and that is hit by high intensity sound waves to create bubbles: when the bubbles collapse, they create locally intense region of high pressure and temperature. Hitting it at the same time with a neutron flux generates Helium from the Hydrogen.

With thermonuclear fusion, we can synthesize fuel. Also, the waste stream is non-hazardous Helium.


14 posted on 05/18/2006 11:01:29 AM PDT by Donald Meaker (If you want to make money on the lottery, sell tickets.)
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To: kellynla

Tremble evil doers from the might of the F-24 Yugo, deadly and economically.


15 posted on 05/18/2006 11:03:03 AM PDT by jbwbubba
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To: Sonny M
why not offer the incentives to the private sector to let them try and develop it instead

There already are tax incentives available for making diesel alternatives but I don't know of any that produce it for jet fuel. I read one story that it had been done but I don't know if anyone is producing it comercially for that purpose right now.
16 posted on 05/18/2006 11:06:18 AM PDT by P-40 (Support Apartheid in Mexico! Hire an illegal today!)
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To: P-40
Here is some good info:

http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/AR/archive/jul01/jet0701.htm

Cleaner, greener jet fuels made from formulas that contain part soybean oil could clean up the air and give added profits to the nation's 400,000 soybean growers.

Now that biodiesel fuel is being used in ground transportation, research efforts at the National Center for Agricultural Utilization Research in Peoria, Illinois, are helping lay the groundwork for new, winterized formulas of jet fuel blended with esters of soybean oil.

With winterization processing, biodiesel fuel can be safely blended with jet fuel used in commercial and military aircraft. ARS chemical engineer Robert O. Dunn found that small amounts of methyl soyate (SME)—esters from fatty acids of soybean oil—could be blended with jet fuel (JP-8) with little or no effect on aircraft operation, based on established jet fuel specifications.

Dunn has developed a three-step winterization process for biodiesel fuel that involves mixing in additives, chilling the fuel, and filtering out solids. In laboratory tests, researchers have produced biodiesel fuels capable of starting engines at temperatures as low as 5°F, making them comparable to petroleum-based diesel fuels.

In laboratory tests, Dunn checked winterized blends having between 10 and 30 percent methyl soyate (SME) by volume to determine their compatibility with JP-8 and tested the fuels under cold temperatures. Using unwinterized biodiesel fuel blends could mean limiting the ability of aircraft to fly at high altitudes, where cold temperatures can cause crystal formation, which blocks fuel filters and plugs fuel lines.

"The most promising aspect of this work was finding that winterized SME did not form solid particles when exposed to a range of slightly below zero to –52°F in the laboratory," says Dunn.

But eventually even winterized SME blends will form solid particles when the temperature is low enough. "Our work will continue to focus on expanding the lower limits of temperature so that winterized, blended biodiesel fuels can function safely in commercial and military aircraft," says Dunn.

Biodiesel fuel has been shown to reduce harmful exhaust emissions—particulate matter, volatile organic compounds, hydrocarbons, smoke, and carbon dioxide. Another plus: Biodiesel is nonflammable, making it relatively safe to store and handle. It's also biodegradable.—By Linda McGraw, Agricultural Research Service Information Staff.
17 posted on 05/18/2006 11:11:23 AM PDT by P-40 (Support Apartheid in Mexico! Hire an illegal today!)
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To: Red Badger
Does anybody here know if or is it even possible to run an airplane engine on diesel?..........

I always thought that standard jet fuel (the stuff you put into a 747),home heating oil and standard diesel (the stuff you buy at truck stops) was pretty much the same stuff.

18 posted on 05/18/2006 11:11:59 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: Sonny M
The fact that we call this "alternative" alone, tells you its not as good as the original, and is a substitute.

If the Air Force isn't supplying the best fuel available they are letting down the joystick actuators and the American people. As I recall, the availability of 100 octane avgas and the better performance thus provided was part of the advantage the RAF had over the Luftwaffe who used 90 octane.

19 posted on 05/18/2006 11:12:51 AM PDT by magslinger (WWJBD? What Would Jack Bauer Do?)
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To: kellynla
>U.S. Air Force Is Seeking Alternative Jet Fuel


20 posted on 05/18/2006 11:15:19 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Sonny M

All government land vehicles, cars, trucks or what have you, should ALL be Diesel. All future purchases of government vehicles should be mandated to be Diesel engines only, unless an exception is necessary for local fuel supplies or environmental reasons.............


21 posted on 05/18/2006 11:16:14 AM PDT by Red Badger (Liberals reward sloth and revere incompetence...........)
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To: kellynla
Fill 'er up!


22 posted on 05/18/2006 11:16:40 AM PDT by GalaxieFiveHundred
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To: Sonny M

The fact that we call this "alternative" alone, tells you its not as good as the original, and is a substitute.
If they are serious, why not look for something better then the fuel they use, not a mere "substitute" for it?

And instead of doing this themselves, why not offer the incentives to the private sector to let them try and develop it instead, this way if they fail, taxpayers aren't on the hook?

WORD!!


23 posted on 05/18/2006 11:16:55 AM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: kellynla
Sounds like GTL, Gas to Liquid.

Can be done to burn off gases at the well heads, to capture fuel that normally goes to waste.

Engine upgrades for the B-52, C-5, and B-1 have been talked about for years. In fact it was discussed in the early 90's when I worked at Pratt & Whitney so you get an idea as to how long the ideas have been kicking around.

Google it or look here on the Freep, the B-52/C-5 engine upgrade programs may happen soon, to more current generation Turbofans.

The B-1 upgrade was to use the F-119 engines from the F-22 to give it back all the supersonic capabilities it lost, maybe more fuel efficient, time would tell.

24 posted on 05/18/2006 11:23:07 AM PDT by taildragger (They call themselves Liberal Democrats, I call them Collaborators.)
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To: Red Badger
Does anybody here know if or is it even possible to run an airplane engine on diesel?

Actually, jet fuel is very very similar to kerosene and diesel already.
25 posted on 05/18/2006 11:25:10 AM PDT by JamesP81
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To: Registered

The United States Air Force needs you! It's time for a new electric/jet fuel hybrid aircraft.


26 posted on 05/18/2006 11:25:42 AM PDT by BufordP ("I am stuck on Al Franken 'cause Al Franken's stuck on me!" -- Stupid)
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To: Gay State Conservative
"....I always thought that standard jet fuel (the stuff you put into a 747),home heating oil and standard diesel (the stuff you buy at truck stops) was pretty much the same stuff...."

Not quite. It's a matter of degree of refinement. Jet fuel is basically ultra-refined, water-white kerosene.

Diesel is a little further down the fraction process and still further down is home heating oil, which is heavier, more viscous and contains elements that could foul precision mechanisms (such as a jet engine.

Ships used to run on #6, which if left to cool can actually harden, like asphalt. But it's a relatively cheap way to fire a boiler.

27 posted on 05/18/2006 11:27:07 AM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: Red Badger
Badger,

As of 2010 all military stuff has to run on the JP's for logisitc reasons.

Google the Mercury marine "Optimax JP" a Spark Ignited Heavy Fuel Engine (Air Assisted Direct Injected 2 stroke)

More on this later, go to run.

28 posted on 05/18/2006 11:27:16 AM PDT by taildragger (They call themselves Liberal Democrats, I call them Collaborators.)
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To: kellynla

29 posted on 05/18/2006 11:28:18 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: kellynla
Interesting.

I have a bad feeling that a lot of this Air Force research is motivated by politicians who want to suck up to U.S. farmers and agri-business.

Experiments with bio-diesel and ethanol are just attempts to do better in the Iowa caucus.

30 posted on 05/18/2006 11:28:57 AM PDT by 68skylark
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To: taildragger

I was thinking primarily of the bureaucrat butt buggies.......


31 posted on 05/18/2006 11:30:41 AM PDT by Red Badger (Liberals reward sloth and revere incompetence...........)
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To: Red Badger
Does anybody here know if or is it even possible to run an airplane engine on diesel?..........

JP1 is basically the same thing as number 1 heating oil, ie; kerosene, are number 1 diesel. That is why the military did away with all their gasoline motors, they only use kerosene. Oh, the military add's more stuff in it to prevent jelling.

32 posted on 05/18/2006 11:32:24 AM PDT by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: kellynla

The solution is obvious.

33 posted on 05/18/2006 11:41:14 AM PDT by oyez (Appeasement is insanity)
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To: theFIRMbss
a possibility is in this pilot project

>http://www.rvi.net/~mdhorban/hybridmotorcycle.htm

34 posted on 05/18/2006 11:52:22 AM PDT by llevrok (Stop the Latin Insurgents !!!)
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To: Red Badger

"Does anybody here know if or is it even possible to run an airplane engine on diesel?.........."

The answer is yes. A new turbine engine that is not yet certified at last report is going to be a multi fuel engine which will burn Jet A, Kerosene, or Diesel. It will also be available in sizes small enough for private aircraft. Not much more info available until the FAA puts the certificate on it though.


35 posted on 05/18/2006 11:54:04 AM PDT by Concho
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To: kellynla

Used french fry oil. Come to think of it, the fries in the mess hall tasted like they were fried in JP-4...


36 posted on 05/18/2006 11:54:35 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Yo-Yo

ROFLMAO

well all I can say is that evvvverybody's chow including you flyboys' was better than the chow the Navy passed down to us Jarheads. LOL


37 posted on 05/18/2006 11:59:41 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
Oh Joy! Coming from a long line of Navy men going all the way back to one ancestor who was an officer sailing under Pirate/Buccaneer Bartholomew Sharp, I have been waiting to say this for a long long time and now is my chance. Dismantle the Airforce and build a BIGGER NAVY.

Oh Oh I sense incoming flack.. But that's OK my WWII Navy hero father is smiling down on me.
38 posted on 05/18/2006 12:09:38 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Donald Meaker
Also, the waste stream is non-hazardous Helium.

Yeah but we'll all talk like cartoon characters.

39 posted on 05/18/2006 12:12:31 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (Bayonet the wounded!)
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To: Yo-Yo
Used french fry oil.

Just use the French. Higher grease content.

41 posted on 05/18/2006 12:20:00 PM PDT by llevrok (Stop the Latin Insurgents !!!)
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To: Yo-Yo

Actually the secret of Navy chow is the stack gas flavoring from the boiler furnace exhaust. MMM!


42 posted on 05/18/2006 12:25:50 PM PDT by oyez (Appeasement is insanity)
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To: kellynla
You know how ii is:

The Navy
gets the gravy
And the Marines
get the beans.

43 posted on 05/18/2006 12:28:47 PM PDT by oyez (Appeasement is insanity)
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To: neodad
The LM-2500's on Cruiser's & Destroyers burn basically diesel.

As someone employed in the gas turbine business, I can tell you there are some models that can run on peanut oil, not very efficiently mind you, but it can be done.

44 posted on 05/18/2006 12:33:03 PM PDT by P8riot (Stupid is forever. Ignorance can be fixed.)
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To: kellynla
well all I can say is that evvvverybody's chow including you flyboys' was better than the chow the Navy passed down to us Jarheads. LOL

Oh, come on now. Those fries were hot when I had 'em.

45 posted on 05/18/2006 12:36:38 PM PDT by P8riot (Stupid is forever. Ignorance can be fixed.)
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To: kellynla
...the Air Force uses more than half of all the fuel the U.S. government consumes each year.

Putting an aircraft carrier near the problem area and running two hour missions beats the milage out of 24 hour missions from half way around the world.

46 posted on 05/18/2006 12:38:53 PM PDT by CPOSharky (Go home and fix your own country before you complain about ours.)
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To: oyez

Sounds...yummy.


47 posted on 05/18/2006 12:49:17 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Red Badger
Does anybody here know if or is it even possible to run an airplane engine on diesel?..........

Diesel is sometime used as fuel in some industrial applications of aircraft-derivative turbine engines.

GE Turbine article, see 1st paragraph, second column, first page

48 posted on 05/18/2006 4:16:03 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: All
Simple Distillation The core refining process is simple distillation, illustrated in a stylized fashion at the right. Because crude oil is made up of a mixture of hydrocarbons, this first and basic refining process is aimed at separating the crude oil into its "fractions," the broad categories of its component hydrocarbons. Crude oil is heated and put into a still -- a distillation column -- and different products boil off and can be recovered at different temperatures. The lighter products -- liquid petroleum gases (LPG), naphtha, and so-called "straight run" gasoline -- are recovered at the lowest temperatures. Middle distillates -- jet fuel, kerosene, distillates (such as home heating oil and diesel fuel) -- come next. Finally, the heaviest products (residuum or residual fuel oil) are recovered, sometimes at temperatures over 1000 degrees F. The simplest refineries stop at this point. Most in the United States, however, reprocess the heavier fractions into lighter products to maximize the output of the most desirable products, as shown schematically in the illustration, and as discussed below.


49 posted on 05/18/2006 4:21:34 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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