Is There Bigfoot in Georgia?

Well, understand that if these creatures do exist, they are FAR more rare than bears.

Here is the answer to the physical evidence question from BFRO:

"The assertion that there is absolutely no physical evidence is absolutely false. There is more physical evidence than most people realize. Physical evidence is found every month in various areas across the country. Distinct tracks that do not match other animal tracks, hairs that match each other but no known wild animals, and large scats that could not be made by any known species, are all "physical evidence." "

So when you say "Absolutely none of this applies to bigfoot," you are making a very false statement; in fact, MOST of it applies to Bigfoot.

Also from BFRO:

"The presence or absence of "physical remains" is a wholly different matter. "Physical remains" means body parts, or fossils of body parts. Though mammals may leave tracks, scats and hairs behind, they do not leave body parts behind very often. Body parts of mammals are only available when they die. Thus availability of physical remains is initially determined by population size and lifespan. A rare species with a long lifespan will leave very little physical remains, collectively, for humans to find. The probability of humans actually finding and collecting and identifying those remains before they are completely reabsorbed into the biomass complicates the "physical remains as evidence" equation dramatically."

"Species can only remain 'undiscovered' when they are very small or look a lot like common species."

That is also terribly untrue. There are plenty of gigantic species that were only recently discovered and almost nothing is known about. The coelacanth, which is as LONG as a Bigfoot is TALL, wasn't discovered until the 1960s. Same with the Komodo Dragon. Also, almost nothing can be found relating to species we KNOW exist, such as peccaries, opakis, and goblin sharks.

Well, understand that if these creatures do exist, they are FAR more rare than bears.

Here is the answer to the physical evidence question from BFRO:

"The assertion that there is absolutely no physical evidence is absolutely false. There is more physical evidence than most people realize. Physical evidence is found every month in various areas across the country. Distinct tracks that do not match other animal tracks, hairs that match each other but no known wild animals, and large scats that could not be made by any known species, are all "physical evidence." "

Show me the hairs! I don't want to read about it online. I want the hairs to be investigated and the results published in a scientific journal. Every researcher can do that. If they don't, it is not to be trusted.

So when you say "Absolutely none of this applies to bigfoot," you are making a very false statement; in fact, MOST of it applies to Bigfoot.

Most? You are mistaken! I was talking about a whole list of evidence that would have been found and all you countered with was footprint casts (which don't match eachother! Small casts, casts with 4 toes, 5 toes, no heelball, wide heelball, dermal ridges, ridges that go horizontal, diagonal... how many subspecies of bigfoot are there?) and some hairs.

Also from BFRO:

"The presence or absence of "physical remains" is a wholly different matter. "Physical remains" means body parts, or fossils of body parts. Though mammals may leave tracks, scats and hairs behind, they do not leave body parts behind very often. Body parts of mammals are only available when they die. Thus availability of physical remains is initially determined by population size and lifespan. A rare species with a long lifespan will leave very little physical remains, collectively, for humans to find. The probability of humans actually finding and collecting and identifying those remains before they are completely reabsorbed into the biomass complicates the "physical remains as evidence" equation dramatically."

So how many millions or billions of years do bigfoot live? There aren't even fossils. And this guy is now really going overboard talking nonsense about "complete biomass reabsorbance". A giant ape has huge bones, just like that of any other giant mammal (bears gorillas buffalo) and would leave bones behind. We can find bones of cave bears that are thousands of years old and even small dinosaurs leave bones for crying out loud.... What are bigfoot bones made of? Papermasse? Sugar spice and everything nice?

"Species can only remain 'undiscovered' when they are very small or look a lot like common species."

That is also terribly untrue. There are plenty of gigantic species that were only recently discovered and almost nothing is known about. The coelacanth, which is as LONG as a Bigfoot is TALL, wasn't discovered until the 1960s. Same with the Komodo Dragon. Also, almost nothing can be found relating to species we KNOW exist, such as peccaries, opakis, and goblin sharks.

I was talking about american land animals dude. The coelacanth is in the ocean, that is an entire different ballgame. The Komodo Dragon wasn't "discovered" only because nobody went to the islands that he lives on. The moment western people got there Komodos where found instantaneously. Where could such huge beasts hide anyway?

And the Coelacanth and Komodo dragon are definately classifiable in zoology. I don't know why you guys always believe fake science facts from crackpot websites, but the Komodo dragon is a member of the monitor lizard family, Varanidae, which today has indeed but one genus, Varanus. However there are other members of that genus. Varanus salvadorii for instance is not a Komodo dragon but even bigger! The Coelacanth is closely related to longfishes. By the way looks not completely like the fossilized versions of Coelacanth meaning that they apparently did change over time, and already two or thre species of that family have been found.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lungfish
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coelacanth

Maybe I misinterpreted your last remark. Did you claim that Komodos and Coelacanth don't have any relations or that only peccaris, opakis and goblin sharks don't have any relations alive? In case you meant the last, there are relations alive:

Peccaries Family Tayassuidae
Peccaries are members of the Artiodactyls (even-toed ungulants) like swine Suidae and hippopotami Hippopotamidae

Okapi
Okapia johnstoni
Giraffidae
Related to giraffes

Goblin sharks
Mitsukurina owstoni
Member of the order Lamniformes which include the great white shark

What is your point in any case? That bigfoot could be an animal whith a unique genus? There would still be fossil remains leading to today. We are not talking about a snail that or butterfly who don't fossile to well, or fish which are difficult to track. We are talking about a species with bones that are heavy enough to carry itself, living on the same continent for at least thousands of years.

Here's what you said:

Pertaining to Bigfoot, these things ARE found.

The problem is that no one knows what Bigfoot IS. So if we approach it scientifically, the results will always come back inconclusive. POSSIBLE Bigfoot hairs are found and tested, but the results always come back that it's an "unknown."

A giant ape has huge bones, just like that of any other giant mammal (bears gorillas buffalo) and would leave bones behind.

But the key is that this creature, if it exists, is going to be a lot rarer and have a longer lifespan. So the odds of fossilization, or remains being left behind, in large numbers is greatly reduced. Despite how it may appear, there really is not a large attempt at discovering said remains. So if a Bigfoot dies somewhere off in the woods, chances are it's going to be long gone before it's found. They are large bones, but the average person walking by who SEES those bones isn't going to think anything of it...he'll think it's just a bear's bones or something. Also consider that the remains aren't going to just lay there...even the bones are more than likely going to be stolen and chewed up by scavengers.

all you countered with was footprint casts (which don't match eachother! Small casts, casts with 4 toes, 5 toes, no heelball, wide heelball, dermal ridges, ridges that go horizontal, diagonal... how many subspecies of bigfoot are there?

No, actually, I never said that. And you are wrong; many of the footprints DO match that were made or cast hundreds of miles apart and in random locations. Factor in that many footprints are also hoaxes.

The Komodo Dragon wasn't "discovered" only because nobody went to the islands that he lives on. The moment western people got there Komodos where found instantaneously.

Unlike the Mountain Gorilla, which shared the continent of Africa with humans for thousands of years but were thought to be a myth until they were discovered early last century.

I don't know why you guys always believe fake science facts from crackpot websites...

How much coffee do you drink, anyway? I've never even said I was a believer in Bigfoot. I'm simply trying to keep the possibility open. I don't believe in other things...UFOs, ghosts, etc.

find lot's of feaces with bear DNA, bear hair, find animals killed with bear bite marks, hear and record bear mating calls, find bodily remains, find fossils indicating they go way back, find ancient drawings of bears in caves ETC ETC. Pertaining to Bigfoot, these things ARE found.
Im pretty sure no fossils have been found! And I haven't seen any good pictures or old bigfoot drawings in caves!

The problem is that no one knows what Bigfoot IS. So if we approach it scientifically, the results will always come back inconclusive. POSSIBLE Bigfoot hairs are found and tested, but the results always come back that it's an "unknown."

That is possible. But why haven't I heard about it? I would think it would be put in documentaries. And it would even be evidence which could be published. Unknown DNA is interesting enough for that.

A giant ape has huge bones, just like that of any other giant mammal (bears gorillas buffalo) and would leave bones behind.

But the key is that this creature, if it exists, is going to be a lot rarer and have a longer lifespan. So the odds of fossilization, or remains being left behind, in large numbers is greatly reduced. Despite how it may appear, there really is not a large attempt at discovering said remains. So if a Bigfoot dies somewhere off in the woods, chances are it's going to be long gone before it's found. They are large bones, but the average person walking by who SEES those bones isn't going to think anything of it...he'll think it's just a bear's bones or something. Also consider that the remains aren't going to just lay there...even the bones are more than likely going to be stolen and chewed up by scavengers.

After thousands of years I certainly would expect at least a few skeletons to be discovered by now. Parkrangers find bodily remains of animals a lot, they can die of disease, age, otheranimals etc.

all you countered with was footprint casts (which don't match eachother! Small casts, casts with 4 toes, 5 toes, no heelball, wide heelball, dermal ridges, ridges that go horizontal, diagonal... how many subspecies of bigfoot are there?

No, actually, I never said that. And you are wrong; many of the footprints DO match that were made or cast hundreds of miles apart and in random locations. Factor in that many footprints are also hoaxes.

Im totally factoring that in :) But how do you tell which are the real thing? With so much fake evidence it is like finding a needle in a haystack.

Komodo Dragon wasn't "discovered" only because nobody went to the islands that he lives on. The moment western people got there Komodos where found instantaneously.

Unlike the Mountain Gorilla, which shared the continent of Africa with humans for thousands of years but were thought to be a myth until they were discovered early last century.

Are you comparing the continent of Africa with American forests? :) I think there is a size difference. And wheren't they thought to be a myth by western explorers/toerists? The locals didn't had trouble believing it.

I don't know why you guys always believe fake science facts from crackpot websites...

How much coffee do you drink, anyway? I've never even said I was a believer in Bigfoot. I'm simply trying to keep the possibility open. I don't believe in other things...UFOs, ghosts, etc.

I DO believe in UFOS! And flying saucers even. hehe But Im not claiming there is evidence for it.

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