Gays Are Cowards – Polish MP

UK Gay News.org ^ | May 11, 2006

[Unam Sanctam]

“If the deviants will start demonstrating, they need to be bashed with a thick stick”.

People have a right to believe and express publicly the belief that homosexual activity is immoral, and gay activists are wrong to try to criminalize any such expression, but this kind of direct advocacy of violence should have no place in a civilized society. The Christian way is to love the sinner and hate the sin. Why do so many people have so much difficulty doing both at the same time?

[lizol]

This man - Wierzejski is a total moron.

He associates everything with gays, like it was the biggest problem in todays Poland.

Maybe he's one himself, and doesn't want to face the truth? :-)))

[lizol]

[Larry Lucido]

It's what I feel any time gays argue they are "normal". The world is insane to tolerate their presence.

Just curious, do you feel the same way about married heterosexuals who engage in kinky sex with each other? Some don't think that should be tolerated; just wondering where you personally would draw the line of tolerance.

[Kenny500c]

He meant to say "cowboys", having just seen BM.

[MarcinPL]

WARSAW, May 16, 2006 (Warsaw Independent) – The issue of gay rights returned to the front pages of the Polish media today after a front bench parliamentarian of a government coalition party suggested that homosexuals are paedophiles and have ties with drug dealers. Wojciech Wierzejski of the far-right League of Polish Families (LPR) said in a letter addressed to Interior Minister Ludwik Dorn and Justice Minister Zbigniew Ziobro that the law enforcement authorities should check what he called “legal and illegal sources of financing” of organizations grouping homosexual activists. Wierzejski also suggested that a recent wave of protests against his party leader Roman Giertych, recently appointed Deputy Prime Minister and Education Minister, were in fact inspired only by homosexuals and not mainstream NGOs and informal groups of students. “Organizations that group activists of the homosexual movement in Poland use almost every day to launch attacks on the Polish government and its ministers. Deputy PM and Education Minister Roman Giertych is attacked in a particularly brutal way,” Wierzejski said. Thousands of students and leftist activists have been taking to the streets of various Polish cities, demanding Giertych’s resignation and calling him an intolerant nationalist. An online appeal put together by an informal group several days ago was signed by nearly 60,000 people, including prominent academics and artists, such as Oscar-winning director Andrzej Wajda, and major historical figures such as Marek Edelman, the last living leader of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising of 1943. Wierzejski insisted that the protests against Giertych and his nationalist ideology were inspired by homosexuals. “There aren't enough anarchists in Poland to organize such large rallies on the streets,” Wierzejski told the daily Gazeta Wyborcza. “Homos organize those rallies using online chats and forums. They sign all kinds of appeals against Roman Giertych.” Wierzejski also reiterated his earlier statements that there was little difference between homosexuals and paedophiles. “Every police office will confirm that homosexuals are a circle that is nearly 100% identical to the circle of paedophiles. It is a fact that does not require any research,” Wierzejski said. The far-right politician had earlier encouraged the use of force if gay activists organize their annual Equality March in Warsaw. “If deviants begin to demonstrate, they should be hit with batons,” Wierzejski said at that time. The Equality March is planned for June 10. The marches were banned twice over the past two years by the conservative Warsaw mayor at the time, Lech Kaczyński, who is now Poland’s president. Wierzejski’s comments, which he continued to make today in various interviews, fell on deaf ears of the government, led by the Law and Justice (PiS) party of the president’s identical twin brother Jarosław Kaczyński. Most opposition politicians and commentators expressed negative opinions of Wierzejski, ranging from ridicule to outrage. “[His comments] are outside the allowed freedom of expression and political actions because he openly advocates discrimination of a group of people that has a personal quality that does not depend on their choice,” said Professor Wiktor Osiatyński in a telephone interview with the news station TVN24. “It reminds me of the worst times of the Third Reich or communism, when homosexuality was a criminal offence.” “The prime minister, the government, and the senior coalition partner [PiS] should react,” Osiatyński said. The ruling party refrained from comments on the matter Tuesday. Prime Minister Kazimierz Marcinkiewicz had earlier said he did not want homosexuals to teach in public schools and has recently mentioned he would not want a gay cabinet member in his government. But the entire opposition, including the leading neo-conservative Citizens’ Platform (PO) leader Jan Rokita, was more vocal Tuesday. "Such [Wierzejski-authored] concepts are a demonstration of weirdness. One [homosexuality] has nothing to do with the other [paedophilia and drugs], and such ties exist only in a world of total fiction, a world of ideological propaganda that has no link with reality,” said Rokita, who in the past has downplayed the importance of calls for tolerance made by homosexual activists. Rokita also tried to dismiss the importance of Wierzejski’s official letter on homosexuals. “Marginal views exist in Parliament, and this MP, whose name doesn't deserve mentioning, represents such views,” Rokita said. Rokita’s party maintains a moderately conservative stance on gay rights and in the past did not join centrist and leftist parties in the defense of Equality Marches banned by the Warsaw authorities. According to Robert Biedroń of the Campaign against Homophobia, Wierzejski's views are unprecedented in Europe. “I've never heard anyone use such language,” Biedroń said, adding that the recent anti-gay comments coming from the far-right and conservative camp may result in widespread hatred toward homosexuals in Poland. “If Wierzejski says we’re paedophiles and have ties with the underworld, an average John Smith will throw a stone,” Biedroń said. In a 2004 policy paper on sexual orientation discrimination in countries joining the European Union at the time, the International Lesbian and Gay Association (ILGA) Europe said that despite the relatively high level of concealment in surveys, the percentage of persons who are victims of violence and harassment remains very high, at 51% in Poland. The organization also said it found out in the survey that a young Polish woman reported she was raped by a stranger who found out she was lesbian, saying it was supposed to be a punishment. The rape was not reported to the police, ILGA Europe said. http://www.ukgaynews.org.uk/Archive/2006may/1603.htm

[spanalot]

Is it worse than what gays are doing to themselves with AIDS

[TXnMA]

“If the deviants will start demonstrating, they need to be bashed with a thick stick”.

Sounds vaguely familiar. Something like a pickaxe handle, perhaps...?

[Mr. Brightside]

Not another Fred Phelps poster.

BTW, if you keep pinging me to homosexual threads, people will start wondering about me.... "Not that there's anything wrong with that."

[Ainast]

BEDROOM

[Caipirabob]

Just curious, do you feel the same way about married heterosexuals who engage in kinky sex with each other? Some don't think that should be tolerated; just wondering where you personally would draw the line of tolerance.

A man who knows he's a man and a woman of the same inclination don't really strike me as being "mentally ill". Homosexuality is a diagnosed mental illness. The definition only changed after enough homosexuals infiltrated the circles of psychological study and were able to "redefine" it as being otherwise. It doesn't mean it's not what it truly is, it just means they redfined it, that's all.

They crossed the line with adoption, gay marriage, school taught indoctrination and generally anything that overrode the will of the parents and their teachings.

At that point, they are the enemy along with any other socialist who wants to control any aspect of our lives and should be driven into the seas along with the rest of the enemy.

And as far as a man and woman and what they have between themselves, as long as they aren't trying to push it in school on our children I'd probably never know or hear about it, and wouldn't be inclined to opine on it.

[DBeers]

Just curious, do you feel the same way about married heterosexuals who engage in kinky sex with each other? Some don't think that should be tolerated; just wondering where you personally would draw the line of tolerance.

IF & WHEN married heterosexuals who engage in kinky sex with each other stage kinky sex pride parades, demand special rights based upon kinky sex e.g. "Kinky Rights", and attempt to indoctrinate children in schools to learn all about "Kinky Orientation" Then MAYBE you might have a point... Until then, conflating the homosexual disorder with married heterosexual kinky sex is a non starter...

I suggest you start a "married heterosexual kinky sex agenda" ping list and see for yourself how politically impotent the argument is to attempt to build consensus around -I would venture it to be almost as politically impotent as the primary advocates of such arguments -the dummies...

[rfreedom4u]

I like this guy. He should deflect the queer's attention to the Muslim countries. They are even harsher on gays. He should offer to form an army of queers and send them on a crusade to liberate arab lands. Of course they can't have weapons until they arrive close to muzzie land.

[Larry Lucido]

LOL!

[Grzegorz 246]

"IF & WHEN married heterosexuals who engage in kinky sex with each other stage kinky sex pride parades, demand special rights based upon kinky sex e.g. "Kinky Rights", and attempt to indoctrinate children in schools to learn all about "Kinky Orientation" Then MAYBE you might have a point... Until then, conflating the homosexual disorder with married heterosexual kinky sex is a non starter..."

Exactly.

[Lukasz]

Funny guy but I would not protest if they would got few lashes... Such provokations always will be answered.

[DBeers]

;-)

[mjolnir]

Well said!

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Gays Are Cowards – Polish MP

Some "Gay News" here - LOL...

This "Gay News" leans more toward professional victim status than cowardice...

Oh yes -my heart strings are pulled... Let us set aside reality for the down trodden indivudual who chooses to engage in homosexual sex. Such a beautiful platitude -such a noble cause...

In this case the sacred cow of homosexual sex sets aside reality and causes two wrongs to must make a right...

The leftists' delusion is oh so welcoming to the delusional...

But I digress -now recovered from the momentary delusion this "Gay News" attempted to coerce, I will press on

Be nice now -remember, unlike the leftists, we know that two wrongs do not make a right...

:-)

[DBeers]

Thank you.