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Bush to Say Border Not Fully Under Control
AP ^ | 05/15/2006 | NEDRA PICKLER

Posted on 05/15/2006 2:59:55 PM PDT by notes2005

WASHINGTON - President Bush is to order as many as 6,000 National Guard troops to increase enforcement at the Mexican border, part of a $1.9 billion drive to tighten security and win conservative backing in Congress for a broad election-year overhaul of the nation's tattered immigration laws.

"We do not yet have full control of the border and I am determined to change that," Bush is expected to say in remarks prepared for a prime-time speech from the Oval Office.

The speech will come as the Senate begins work on legislation to strengthen border security, authorize new guest worker programs and give an eventual chance at citizenship to most of the estimated 12 million people already living illegally in the United States.

"Tonight I am calling on Congress to provide funding for dramatic improvements in manpower and technology at the border," Bush is expected to say.

Congressional officials who were briefed in advance of the speech said the president would ask Congress to increase the number of Border Patrol agents and to support construction of additional facilities to detain illegal immigrants. They said the National Guard troops would not be involved in law enforcement, but would take support jobs currently held by federal agents, freeing them for front-line duty.

On citizenship, the White House told congressional officials the president planned to say that illegal immigrants, required to stand in line behind legal immigrants applying to become citizens, are not being granted amnesty.

Bush's plan to use National Guard troops at the border ran into criticism from Democrats and Republicans alike.

"The National Guard already is stretched to the limit by repeated tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as from providing disaster assistance in their own states," said Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (news, bio, voting record), D-Mass., though he commended Bush for "courage and leadership" in weighing in on the immigration debate.

Bush was to say the nation has expanded the Border Patrol from about 9,000 to 12,000 agents during his presidency and has sent home about 6 million people entering the United States illegally. Still, he would add, that has not been enough.

"We will fix the problems created by illegal immigration and we will deliver a system that is secure, orderly and fair," the president was to say.

He would also call for enactment of a guest worker program to allow immigrants to take low-paying jobs, and he was to say employers must be held to account for hiring illegal immigrants. He was to say also that a tamper-proof identification card for workers would "leave employers with no excuse" for violating the law.


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Excerpts, just released from the White House:

On the President’s vision for comprehensive immigration reform:

“We are a Nation of laws, and we must enforce our laws. We are also a Nation of immigrants, and we must uphold that tradition, which has strengthened our country in so many ways. These are not contradictory goals – America can be a lawful society and a welcoming society at the same time. We will fix the problems created by illegal immigration, and we will deliver a system that is secure, orderly, and fair.”

On Border Security:

“Since I became President, we have increased funding for border security by 66 percent, and expanded the Border Patrol from about 9,000 to 12,000 agents. . . .we have apprehended and sent home about six million people entering America illegally.

“Despite this progress, we do not yet have full control of the border, and I am determined to change that. Tonight I am calling on Congress to provide funding for dramatic improvements in manpower and technology at the border."

On the Importance of a Temporary Worker Program to relieve pressure on the border:

“The reality is that there are many people on the other side of our border who will do anything to come to America to work and build a better life. They walk across miles of desert in the summer heat, or hide in the back of 18-wheelers to reach our country. This creates enormous pressure on our border that walls and patrols alone will not stop. To secure the border effectively we must reduce the numbers of people trying to sneak across."

On enforcing our laws:

“. . . we need to hold employers to account for the workers they hire. It is against the law to hire someone who is in this country illegally. Yet businesses often cannot verify the legal status of their employees, because of the widespread problem of document fraud. Therefore, comprehensive immigration reform must include a better system for verifying documents and work eligibility . . .

“A tamper-proof card would help us enforce the law – and leave employers with no excuse for violating it. And by making it harder for illegal immigrants to find work in our country, we would discourage people from crossing the border illegally in the first place.”

On the President’s opposition to amnesty:

“. . . we must face the reality that millions of illegal immigrants are already here. They should not be given an automatic path to citizenship. This is amnesty, and I oppose it. Amnesty would be unfair to those who are here lawfully – and it would invite further waves of illegal immigration."

On assimilation:

“. . . we must honor the great American tradition of the melting pot, which has made us one Nation out of many peoples. The success of our country depends upon helping newcomers assimilate into our society, and embrace our common identity as Americans. Americans are bound together by our shared ideals, an appreciation of our history, respect for the flag we fly, and an ability to speak and write the English language.”

On the tone of the debate:

“We must always remember that real lives will be affected by our debates and decisions, and that every human being has dignity and value no matter what their citizenship papers say.”

1 posted on 05/15/2006 2:59:56 PM PDT by notes2005
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To: notes2005
LOL! What's the point of a speech if your going to spill in the press before hand?

Christ, what's the point?

2 posted on 05/15/2006 3:02:01 PM PDT by zarf (It's time for a college football playoff system.)
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To: notes2005

Secure the darn border, enforce current laws and go back to apprehending illegals inland.


3 posted on 05/15/2006 3:03:05 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: zarf

So the dems can have their counter attack points ready. Stupid is as stupid does. Borders NOT under control. HEY G.W., WHAT WAS YOUR FIRST FREAKING CLUE?


5 posted on 05/15/2006 3:03:50 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (I've pretty much given up on all politicians. They all lie, cheat, and ignore the voters.)
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To: zarf

Likely they have several speeches and they're floating bits and pieces of each as trial balloons.


6 posted on 05/15/2006 3:04:12 PM PDT by thoughtomator (A thread without a comment on immigration is not complete)
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To: A CA Guy

thing is as long as BUsh is for this guest worker plan there is nothing he can say that will satisfy me.


7 posted on 05/15/2006 3:04:21 PM PDT by Halls (One Proud Texas Momma!!)
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To: notes2005
".....we do not yet have full control of the border"

Would be funny if it weren't so tragic.

8 posted on 05/15/2006 3:04:22 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: zarf

Just secure the border and quit flapping your gums about it, Mr. President. No need for speeches. Actions speak louder than words.


9 posted on 05/15/2006 3:06:25 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: RetiredArmy

The borders are not under control???

Is that a nomination for "Bush understatement of the Year"?


10 posted on 05/15/2006 3:07:11 PM PDT by goalinestan (Build it...and they won't come (as easily))
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To: Nachum

real nice attitude calling our President that...


11 posted on 05/15/2006 3:07:36 PM PDT by ruschpa
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To: notes2005

"They should not be given an automatic path to citizenship."

The word "automatic" hits an off note with me.


12 posted on 05/15/2006 3:07:52 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: notes2005
More Beltway Bravo Sierra. By midnight tonight, we'll be right back to Square One, and the The Sieve will just leak more profusely than before. (If that's even possible.)


13 posted on 05/15/2006 3:08:24 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Allah FUBAR!)
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To: zarf

You can watch the golf channel.


14 posted on 05/15/2006 3:08:41 PM PDT by dingoMcgill
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To: Nachum
Since you've been in office you have made every effort to give amnesty, you weasel piece of sh#t.

My, but you have a potty mouth.

15 posted on 05/15/2006 3:08:50 PM PDT by airborne (Satan's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.)
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To: goalinestan

Gets my vote. They better take it, cause it is the ONLY danged vote I am giving them this year.


16 posted on 05/15/2006 3:09:09 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (I've pretty much given up on all politicians. They all lie, cheat, and ignore the voters.)
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To: notes2005

Will he also reveal that the sun is a bit warm and the ocean somewhat damp?


17 posted on 05/15/2006 3:09:25 PM PDT by Thrusher ("...there is no peace without victory.")
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To: notes2005
Bush was to say the nation has expanded the Border Patrol from about 9,000 to 12,000 agents during his presidency and has sent home about 6 million people entering the United States illegally. Still, he would add, that has not been enough. "We will fix the problems created by illegal immigration and we will deliver a system that is secure, orderly and fair," the president was to say. He would also call for enactment of a guest worker program to allow immigrants to take low-paying jobs, and he was to say employers must be held to account for hiring illegal immigrants. He was to say also that a tamper-proof identification card for workers would "leave employers with no excuse" for violating the law.

Could someone explain what is(was)going on with using the past tense?

18 posted on 05/15/2006 3:09:31 PM PDT by WASH
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To: zarf

AMEN, this is just soooo cheesy.


19 posted on 05/15/2006 3:10:09 PM PDT by RadioCirca1970
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To: RegulatorCountry

NOT BE GIVEN AN AUTOMATIC PATH:

As in...there may be 1-2 short documents that need to be filled out before they can become a legal citizen.


20 posted on 05/15/2006 3:10:15 PM PDT by goalinestan (Build it...and they won't come (as easily))
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To: Cecily

Right on!!!!


21 posted on 05/15/2006 3:10:37 PM PDT by RadioCirca1970
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To: RetiredArmy

I'm with you.


22 posted on 05/15/2006 3:11:14 PM PDT by goalinestan (Build it...and they won't come (as easily))
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To: notes2005
"Tonight I am calling on Congress to provide funding for dramatic improvements in manpower and technology at the border,"

Funding is the point. Anybody who wants something done needs to procure funding. The full solution will cost $250 billion first year, but Congress won't go for that. So, expect something less. Much less.

23 posted on 05/15/2006 3:11:39 PM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: ruschpa
real nice attitude calling our President that...

Nice Attitude? Screw that! In Los Angeles, we are DROWNING in illegals, and the president has ignored the problem for his entire term in office. When two border patrol agents made 2 arrests in Southern California of car loads of illegals, he suspended the agents, threatened their expulsion, and sent his representatives to apologize to the illegals.

Our hospitals, schools, and social welfare system in southern California are overrun with illegals and WE are forced to pay for them. His administration has done its best to deny any federal help to the residents of California for repayment of our own tax dollars to pay for this MESS!

You WANT ATTITUDE buster!? I'll give you some F*****G ATTITUDE!!!

24 posted on 05/15/2006 3:14:06 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Is this DU?!


25 posted on 05/15/2006 3:14:42 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: goalinestan

A cynic would interpret this statement as saying that illegal aliens would be given a path to citizenship, just not an "automatic" one. This is no time for wiggle-room words, I would think.


26 posted on 05/15/2006 3:14:44 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: WASH
Could someone explain what is(was)going on with using the past tense?

Bush was to say = Bush was {expected | predicted } to say

27 posted on 05/15/2006 3:15:04 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: goalinestan
The borders are not under control

The person who put that in the speech should be relieved of that duty

The dems are going to use that to no end for the mid terms

Five years after 9/11 and the boarders are not under control?????

28 posted on 05/15/2006 3:15:40 PM PDT by dingoMcgill
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To: airborne
My, but you have a potty mouth.

See post #15.

29 posted on 05/15/2006 3:16:22 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum
Remember what happen to your boss and 90% of your hateful ilks. They were banned from FR and soon you may share their fate. Go to LooneyPost (LibertyPOst) and DUmmyland and express your hatred toward the President.
30 posted on 05/15/2006 3:16:55 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: Nachum

oops. I meant 24.


31 posted on 05/15/2006 3:17:00 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Izzy Dunne

Still past tense.


32 posted on 05/15/2006 3:17:06 PM PDT by WASH
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To: RegulatorCountry

Oh I have no doubt that there will be a path to citizenship, which to me = AMNESTY.

If you break our laws in the first place, why be given any chance (automatic or otherwise) for something as valuable as American citizenship.

I don't think I am going to like what I hear tonight.


33 posted on 05/15/2006 3:17:10 PM PDT by goalinestan (Build it...and they won't come (as easily))
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To: Nachum

I see it.

It's my post to you.

What's your point?


34 posted on 05/15/2006 3:17:49 PM PDT by airborne (Satan's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.)
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To: jveritas
My Ilk?

What, a legal citizen and resident of California?

35 posted on 05/15/2006 3:18:14 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: notes2005
Stop the illegals from coming is the first thing we have to do. Once that is done then we can talk about what to do about the illegals that are here. Honest polls show that the public supports the House measure over the Senate version by 2 to 1. Bush had better remember that. The fate of Bush, the GOP, and the country is a stake.
36 posted on 05/15/2006 3:18:22 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: Halls
as long as BUsh is for this guest worker plan there is nothing he can say that will satisfy me.

We already have a guest worker program.


37 posted on 05/15/2006 3:18:23 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (http://ntxsolutions.com)
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To: ruschpa; Nachum

Nachum I'm on your side in regards to the border but there is no need for the name calling. This is not the DU.


38 posted on 05/15/2006 3:19:19 PM PDT by Scribbz (Navy brat and proud! My dad has more stripes on his butt than you do on your arm!)
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To: zarf

Hey why complain? I'm glad they released the Reader's Digest version; Now I definitely don't need to bother watching him read it. He's not that great a reader anyway.


39 posted on 05/15/2006 3:19:49 PM PDT by Huck (Hey look, I'm still here.)
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To: dingoMcgill

Red Sox at Camden Yard.


40 posted on 05/15/2006 3:20:18 PM PDT by battlecry
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To: notes2005
...part of a $1.9 billion drive to tighten security and win conservative backing in Congress for a broad election-year overhaul of the nation's tattered immigration laws.

There's nothing wrong with our immigration laws... it's the ENFORCEMENT POLICIES that are in tatters.

I hope that was just a journalistic turn of phrase - but I doubt it.

41 posted on 05/15/2006 3:20:34 PM PDT by Charles Martel
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To: Nachum

Your ilks that hate the President so much.


42 posted on 05/15/2006 3:20:38 PM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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To: dingoMcgill

Inexcusable, I agree.

And it's a ready made excuse for those to weak to just say, "Illegal immigration is flat wrong"...

He could just say, "After September 11th, we absolutely cannot allow our borders to be porous...America's future depends on it."

Who can argue that?


43 posted on 05/15/2006 3:21:11 PM PDT by goalinestan (Build it...and they won't come (as easily))
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To: RegulatorCountry

"The word "automatic" hits an off note with me."


Eeeggggggaaaccctttlllyyyyyyy.....

Bend ova......................

Here comes "Earned citizenship"....rammed in where the sun don't shine.

:)


44 posted on 05/15/2006 3:23:05 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: airborne
What, do I have to spell this out to you? Fine.

The president has done everything in his power to give amnesty to illegals. The only reason he is giving this speech, is because of the immense pressure that is being put on him by his own base.

His administration is falling apart, and he must show he has done something, hence the proposal for troops on the border. The only thing is, that before he even made the speech and the proposal, he was telling Vicente Fox that it was temporary.

It is just more of the same. The illegals, especially from Mexico, have been shoved down our throats, and will continue to be shoved down our throats. Aren't you tired of paying for it? Aren't you tired of being told that nothing can be done about it?

45 posted on 05/15/2006 3:23:47 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: taxed2death

BOHICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


46 posted on 05/15/2006 3:24:15 PM PDT by Scribbz (Navy brat and proud! My dad has more stripes on his butt than you do on your arm!)
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To: notes2005
Bush to Say Border Not Fully Under Control


47 posted on 05/15/2006 3:24:46 PM PDT by TheBigB (In the immortal words of Michael Jordan: "I'm back.")
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To: notes2005
"Bush to Say Border Not Fully Under Control"


48 posted on 05/15/2006 3:25:30 PM PDT by jdm
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To: Nachum

I'm not going to be offensive or vulgar, but I do find myself these days, asking... Why did I like this guy in the first place?

I fear...truly fear...that I have been so terribly stupid with my support. Tonight's speech will reveal if I have been so mistaken of Dubya. Am I alone in this perspective? I no longer feel like he can help, in the battles that matter for this country.


49 posted on 05/15/2006 3:26:21 PM PDT by mutley
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To: jveritas
Hate the president?

I don't hate the president. I hate what has happened to Southern California. I also hate being lied to. Bush alone isn't responsable, but unfortunately, when I had to look at a parade of hundreds of thousands of illegals carrying Mexican flags having a rally a mile away from where I live, it makes me a "little" upset.

50 posted on 05/15/2006 3:26:28 PM PDT by Nachum
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