Posted on 05/15/2006 8:23:44 AM PDT by neverdem
NEW YORK -- The Bloomberg administration today announced a federal lawsuit against 15 out-of-state gun shops where it said firearms are sold illegally, and in some cases, end up in the hands of New York City criminals.
The city is suing gun dealers in Georgia, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina and Virginia that it says supply a significant portion of the guns that flow into New York. The suit asks the court to halt illegal sales and requests supervision and extra training for the dealers. It also seeks some damages and compensation.
The lawsuit is being Monday in federal court in Brooklyn.
The city's law department hired private investigators who fanned out to dealers in the five states over the past several weeks to prove what it says is already indicated by trace data.
The undercover investigators attempted "straw purchases,'' in which the buyer completes the paperwork and passes the background check, but later hands over the weapon to someone else who is not allowed to own a firearm.
The 15 dealers named in the suit sold guns to the undercover investigators. The city said the sales were refused at about 30 other shops.
Must be election season...
....and this is the fault of the gunshop, HOW?????
So the investigator is the one who broke the law!
...which in itself is a felony.
I don't think this is proper venue. Shouldn't they have to file suit in the federal district where each of the gun dealers are?
See, the gun dealer is supposed to assign someone to the purchaser and the weapon to ensure that it is not illegally passed on to a third party.
Here in VA one of the specific questions on the form is 'are you purchasing this item for another party?'. What more are dealers supposed to do? If NY didn't have unconstitutional gun restrictions, they wouldn't have all those 'illegal' guns on the streets.
They got the straw purchase frame up method from Mayor Daley and his gestapo chiefs.
Of course.
A retailer in Georgia selling to a person standing in Georgia. All events occurred in Georgia. Lawsuit in Georgia.
I want the police in Georgia to charge Mayor Bloomberg, et al, with some Georgia felony.
Conspiracy to violate gun laws or somesuch.
"the buyer completes the paperwork and passes the background check, but later hands over the weapon to someone else who is not allowed to own a firearm."
How is this the stores problem? It sounds like the store did its job. What, are we now going to go after WalMart when some buys aspirin for themselves but passes some out on a camping trip?
So does this mean that anyone who is the victim of a crime perpetrated by an illegal alien can sue New York City for maintaining a "sanctuary city" policy?
Didn't we just have a federal law passed that prohibited this kind of thing?
I'll see what I can do.
This is typical of the anti-Bill of Rights people like Democrat/Republican Bloomburg.
INstead of trying to use a "sting" to net gunshop owners trying to do a legitimate business, why don't these morons support laws with teeth in them - laws that put violent felons into the kind of Gulag-like prisons we ran back in the days of Al Capone, like Alcatraz??
When a government agent willfully violates the law, and then persecutes a business for the action performed by the government agent, we have truly entered the land of Atlas Shrugged.
I think a hard rains a' gonna fall.
"I want the police in Georgia to charge Mayor Bloomberg, et al, with some Georgia felony.
Conspiracy to violate gun laws or somesuch."
That and flagrant stupidity.
This is series investigative work! Who knew?
And also sue the plastic industry for making those mythical guns that are not detectable by screeners.
Exactly. It's not like someone making a straw purchase isn't going to LIE about it.
(The undercover investigators attempted "straw purchases,'' in which the buyer completes the paperwork and passes the background check, but later hands over the weapon to someone else who is not allowed to own a firearm.)
WTF! The lawsuit should be dismissed immediately as frivolous as the gun shop didn't do anything illegal. This is harrassment pure and simple. Bloomberg should be sued for conspiracy to violate citizen's second amendment rights.
Yes...and a hugh story.
LOL! That seems to be the way we are headed. I can see it now - sellers of raw steel will have to get a promise from buyers that they won't use their steel to make guns.
While we are laughing at the absurdity some liberal somewhere is probably thinking this would actually be a good idea.
Bloomberg must get advice from AG Spitzer.
Did NY advise the local authorities about the NY sting outside the state?
They better have a story other than paperwork.
If the dealter was overt in knowing this was a straw man deal then they have problems.
It is interesting the article burries the fact 30 dealers had no issue.
Please do. Seriously.
New York need to understand it does not run the United States.
Welcome to Georgia, boys.
Geez...I once sold a car to somebody who used it in an armed robbery....will the loony tunes be coming for me next?
Well said!
Please, keep Bloomberg. He's boring.
And also sue the plastic industry for making those mythical guns that are not detectable by screeners.
Let's throw in the toilet/sink manufacturers for good measure. They make porcelain. I love this debunked quote.....
That punk pulled a Glock 7 on me! You know what that is? It's a porcelain gun made in Germany. It dosen't show up on you airport X-ray machines, and it cost more than you make here in a month.
- Bruce Willis, in Die Hard 2
The Glock is polymer.....and Austrian.
Something about this story doesn't ring true, since (as you pointed out) this would be the height of idiocy even by New York City standards.
I'm wondering if the facts as presented by 1010 WINS are accurate.
Some Glock models are made in...Georgia.
When you buy the gun, doesnt one sign that you aree purchasing it for yourself. So what these agents did was illegal by signing under penalty of law that they were purchasing it for themselves. Whay arent the agents in trouble for lieing on a federal form????
Absolutely! As Ann Coulter has pointed out Liberals will only stop abusing the legal system when it is used against them. 20 years of bogus Special Prosecutor malfesence came to an end after the Clinton Whitewater scandal. This is exactly what needs to be done. New York still thinks it is "first among states". Perhaps the Governor of Ohio should stop every car leaving the state w/ NY Tags and search them guns. Other states need to push back at Bloomberg hard.
Let us not forget Bloomberg is a Republican, just like his Rudy. Niether is trustworthy.
Yes....and some Berettas are made in my homestate. They're still Italian.
In other news, Federal U.S. Attorneys for Georgia, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina and Virginia charged several New York private investigators for 15 counts of straw man sales of firearms. The P.I.s posed as legal purchasers and then turned over the firearms to felons. One felon purports to be mayor of NYC.
That quote is too funny. I guess that I miss a lot of humor by not watching movies.
"How is this the stores problem? It sounds like the store did its job. What, are we now going to go after WalMart when some buys aspirin for themselves but passes some out on a camping trip?"
Ya, e.g., you buy a jar of peanut butter at Wally World. Your neighbor kid comes over and has a reaction and dies.
Since your net worth is only $7.23, they will sue W-M for a $trillion for selling you this horrible poison.
I am sure Georgia could find a cell for him.
A crime is a crime.
Charge all the NYers involved in this conspiracy to violate Georgia (et al) law.
I GUARANTEE there is a sheriff in one of these jurisdictions who will write out the arrest warrant.
At least two people had to be involved in each transaction. The buyer for his actions and the person who was not allowed to own a firearm but received on from the buyer. Prosecutors should be very busy for a while.
This is one of those "gotta find an issue" issues.
The economy in NYC is booming, crime is down to historic lows, the tax break has put a ton of money into circulation, even the artists are more or less behaving...etc. etc.
So, now we have to import our issues.
Yes...and a hugh story.
Well I, for one, am stuned!
Hopefully we can export your mayor and all those involved into a small town southern prison cell.
Generally no A/C. Be fun in the summer.
I am serious about this --- unless authorized by local/state authorities, this "sting" violated a whole host of local laws.
Those that set it in motion are just a guilty as the purchaser.
I would think the state of NY should be able to muzzle one of it's cities. At the same time, the state governments of Ga,Oh,Pn,SC,and Va better protect some of their businesses against predation from another state.
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