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Francine Busby (D) running even with Brian Bilbray (R) in special election
Survey USA ^ | May 11, 2006

Posted on 05/11/2006 5:09:42 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

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To: Torie

True dat about Washington, though I don't think anyone saw the Republicans gaining 5 seats that year (especially Foley's, even though his seat was marginal), pushing their margin from 2-7 to 7-2.

That reminds me, Inslee (WA-01) was another one who won election in 1998 after being ousted in 1994.


61 posted on 05/11/2006 8:13:49 PM PDT by Sam Spade
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To: AntiGuv

Subtract the Bush margin from the partisan balance. If Bush 1988 won by 53%, subtract 3%.


62 posted on 05/11/2006 8:15:29 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie

Do you mean the Bush margin in the district's state, or the Bush margin nationally? It still seems to me that would skew the results. For instance, in IL-05 again, the GOP performance collapsed between 1988 and 1996. Dole took only 29%.


63 posted on 05/11/2006 8:21:00 PM PDT by AntiGuv ("Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." - Philip K. Dick)
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To: AntiGuv
BTW. IL-05 becomes a 51.5% GOP district.

Did it have the same lines in 1988 as in 1994? Do you have data for CD's as drawn in 1988 as they voted in 1994? But yes, I would suspect Rosty's district was around a 45% GOP district back then, in national elections, generically, as a wild guess. It had all those bungalow ethnics worried about crime and race, and such. Today, the district does not exist, and if it did, it would have a substantial Hispanic componet, with some metrosexuals chewing into some neighborhoods.

64 posted on 05/11/2006 8:21:20 PM PDT by Torie
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To: AntiGuv

Ya, the national margin. 1996 is irrelevant to 1994. 1994 is more akin to Bush 1988.


65 posted on 05/11/2006 8:22:37 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie

I have the 1988 presidential results for the districts as they were drawn in 1994 (well, technically I'm looking at tables for the 1992 districts, but they were the same in 1994).


66 posted on 05/11/2006 8:23:29 PM PDT by AntiGuv ("Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." - Philip K. Dick)
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To: AntiGuv

Cool.


67 posted on 05/11/2006 8:23:55 PM PDT by Torie
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To: HitmanLV
I have never understood the strategy of losing to "come back strong."

It's like being at 3rd and goal...standing up and saying "Hey, why don't you guys take the ball, push us back ninety yards and then maybe we'll play a little harder." Never mind that they could actually score in the process.
68 posted on 05/11/2006 8:26:18 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: AntiGuv

What is the link to your treasure trove by the way?


69 posted on 05/11/2006 8:26:20 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie

OK, if you think 1988's the way to go, then let's do that! Should I subtract the margin between Bush I and 50%, which would be minus 3.37% or should I subtract half the margin between Bush I and Dukakis, which would be minus 3.86%?


70 posted on 05/11/2006 8:26:29 PM PDT by AntiGuv ("Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." - Philip K. Dick)
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To: Torie

OK, if you think 1988's the way to go, then let's do that! Should I subtract the margin between Bush I and 50%, which would be minus 3.37% or should I subtract half the margin between Bush I and Dukakis, which would be minus 3.86%?


71 posted on 05/11/2006 8:26:32 PM PDT by AntiGuv ("Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." - Philip K. Dick)
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To: Torie
The link is here but one cannot access it without a Duke University NetID.
72 posted on 05/11/2006 8:28:21 PM PDT by AntiGuv ("Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." - Philip K. Dick)
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To: AntiGuv

I don't know who the third party kooks were in 1988, but just use minus 4%, to make it fair.


73 posted on 05/11/2006 8:28:44 PM PDT by Torie
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To: AntiGuv

LOL. The guy who controls the data base is the man, and the guy who doesn't, is a nebbish.


74 posted on 05/11/2006 8:29:43 PM PDT by Torie
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To: California Patriot
Electing Rats is never, ever, ever, part of the solution

Rats dressed up as Republicans are acceptable?

Bloomberg, Specter, Snowe, Collins, Chafee, Graham.....

75 posted on 05/11/2006 8:33:34 PM PDT by dingoMcgill
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To: Clintonfatigued

What is the GOP doing to prevent illegal immigrants from voting in this election for Busby and what can it do under California law?


76 posted on 05/11/2006 8:51:55 PM PDT by AJFavish
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To: FairOpinion
And that's the truth. Well said.

Thanks FairOpinion. It is, indeed the truth. The idea of wanting Democrats to win to "send a message" to Republicans is totally unconservative.

77 posted on 05/11/2006 8:56:26 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: Torie; Clintonfatigued; crasher; fieldmarshaldj; HostileTerritory

OK, here's the new 1994 breakdown. This defines the 1994 GOP baseline for each district as the 1988 Bush percentage minus 4%.

Of the 34 DEM incumbents defeated by the GOP:

2 were in 60%+ GOP districts
9 were in 55-60% GOP districts
12 were in 50-55% GOP districts
6 were in 45-50% GOP districts
5 were in 40-45% GOP districts

Of the 22 open DEM seats picked up by the GOP:

5 were in 60%+ GOP districts
5 were in 55-60% GOP districts
7 were in 50-55% GOP districts
4 were in 45-50% GOP districts
1 was in a 40-45% GOP district

I'd say this baseline mainly had the effect of blunting the extremes. The number of Dem-leaning seats picked up by the GOP drops from 23 (17 + 6) to 16 (11 + 5), although it's worth noting that three districts are right on the cusp: 50.1% or 50.2% GOP.


78 posted on 05/11/2006 9:05:20 PM PDT by AntiGuv ("Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." - Philip K. Dick)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Yah, that's what I'm thinking.

I hope the RNC and the House dump money to him. We really can't lose this.


79 posted on 05/11/2006 9:06:42 PM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: AntiGuv

Excellent, and I think a much better baseline. The only correction is that in the South the baseline moved move GOP from 1988-1994 in more rural based areas, so seats gained by the GOP in the South were more predictable than the baseline. But I think your numbers overall ring true.


80 posted on 05/11/2006 9:09:09 PM PDT by Torie
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