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Kosovo consternation
The Washington Times ^ | 9 May 2006 | James "Ace" Lyons, Jr.

Posted on 05/09/2006 11:14:11 AM PDT by Doctor13

Among the most important priorities of U.S. global policy is combating the international traffic in drugs and in persons (often a euphemism for women and children forced into prostitution).

Because of the linkage and overlap among terrorist networks and organized criminal gangs, the battle against trafficking is also an integral part of the war on terror.

Amazingly, that's what the international community seems to want to help establish in the Serbian province of Kosovo. When Kosovo was placed under United Nations administration and NATO military control at the end of the 1999 war, some hoped the province soon would meet at least minimum qualifications for some kind of independence, as demanded by Muslim Albanians who greatly outnumber the remaining Christian Serbs.

That hasn't happened. Instead the drug, sex slave, weapons, money-laundering, and other illicit trades that helped fuel the conflicts of the 1990s have continued to grow.

(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: albanian; antichrisitians; appeasement; balkans; clinton; clintonlegacy; clintonsquagmire; criminals; drugs; gangsters; ihoppy; islamofascists; jihad; kidnapping; kla; kosovo; muslims; nato; pancakeboy; prostitution; serbia; sorosfluffers; un; unitednations; wrongplace; wrongside; wrongtime; wrongwar
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1 posted on 05/09/2006 11:14:12 AM PDT by Doctor13
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To: Doctor13

You've got to love those 'peacekeeping' forces.

This was a war we should have let Europe handle alone. It had no defensive reason to be fought by us.


2 posted on 05/09/2006 11:36:04 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: Doctor13

Interesting article. The rest of the MSM is very quiet on this issue. Thanks for posting this.


3 posted on 05/09/2006 11:53:22 AM PDT by Dragonfly
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To: Doctor13; FormerLib
'Ace' has an interesting last name!!

And, he shares my own opinion of the situation in KOSOVO.

4 posted on 05/09/2006 12:13:13 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Violent islam is the same as plain islam. No peace at all.... Just mass mayhem.)
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To: DTA; GSlob; jb6; infidel_and_proud; Alouette; SJackson; happyathome

PING!!


5 posted on 05/09/2006 12:17:12 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Violent islam is the same as plain islam. No peace at all.... Just mass mayhem.)
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To: Doctor13; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; joan; ...

At least some folks in the West are recognizing that Clinton used the US military to help set up a criminal enterprise as the government of Kosovo.

This too shall pass when peace and justice return to Kosovo alongside the Serbian Army.


6 posted on 05/09/2006 12:27:56 PM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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To: wardaddy; knighthawk; joan; A. Pole; dennisw; zagor-te-nej; Honorary Serb; Incorrigible

PING!!!!!!


7 posted on 05/09/2006 12:29:08 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Violent islam is the same as plain islam. No peace at all.... Just mass mayhem.)
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To: FormerLib
From your lips to God's ears!!!

About the return of the CHRISTIAN ARMY OF THE SERBS!!

8 posted on 05/09/2006 12:30:11 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Violent islam is the same as plain islam. No peace at all.... Just mass mayhem.)
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To: ma bell; litehaus; kronos77; SandRat; gitmogrunt; TomSmedley

PING!!!!


9 posted on 05/09/2006 12:31:27 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Violent islam is the same as plain islam. No peace at all.... Just mass mayhem.)
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To: Alia; montyspython; Canard; SOLDIEROFJESUSCHRIST; MoJoWork_n

PINGEROOOO


10 posted on 05/09/2006 12:32:38 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Violent islam is the same as plain islam. No peace at all.... Just mass mayhem.)
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To: The_Reader_David; wildandcrazyrussian; Mount Athos

PING


11 posted on 05/09/2006 12:34:17 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Violent islam is the same as plain islam. No peace at all.... Just mass mayhem.)
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To: MarMema; Mr. Silverback; Publius6961; blam

PING


12 posted on 05/09/2006 12:35:11 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Violent islam is the same as plain islam. No peace at all.... Just mass mayhem.)
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To: Doctor13
"the conflicts of the 1990s have continued to grow."

At least our boys were "Home By Christmas" AND we won the "War On Poverty".../sarc

13 posted on 05/09/2006 12:38:05 PM PDT by litehaus
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To: rageaholic; Kolokotronis; Lejes Rimul; tgambill

PING


14 posted on 05/09/2006 12:49:23 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Violent islam is the same as plain islam. No peace at all.... Just mass mayhem.)
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To: Serb5150; AlexW; Travis McGee; Destro

PING


15 posted on 05/09/2006 12:50:38 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Violent islam is the same as plain islam. No peace at all.... Just mass mayhem.)
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To: sionnsar; F-117A

PING


16 posted on 05/09/2006 12:54:05 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Violent islam is the same as plain islam. No peace at all.... Just mass mayhem.)
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To: ConservativeMind

This was no war.. it was an agression on a Country trying to save its people, the SERBS from FOREIGN invaders... Albanian crime families!!


17 posted on 05/09/2006 12:56:15 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Violent islam is the same as plain islam. No peace at all.... Just mass mayhem.)
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To: ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; FITZ; arete; ...
Fighting organized criminal activities is difficult even in countries with a functioning legal system, honest police and the rule of law. Think how much harder that would be when dealing with an independent country where the authorities are an integral part of the criminal enterprise. Amazingly, that's what the international community seems to want to help establish in the Serbian province of Kosovo.
18 posted on 05/09/2006 12:58:46 PM PDT by A. Pole (Lord Palmerston: "Nations have no permanent enemies or allies only permanent interests")
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To: Doctor13
Th war on terror is nothing but a punchline in a really bad joke if these issues are not addressed. The UN is trying to create an internationally sanctioned criminal state.

Perhaps Kofi has a new business lined up since the oil for food program went South on him....maybe heroin and white slavery is his new gig now.

19 posted on 05/09/2006 12:59:01 PM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: Lion in Winter; FormerLib

Bomb them.... Again!


20 posted on 05/09/2006 1:02:58 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: ConservativeMind
This was a war we should have let Europe handle alone.

But Europe was supporting appeasement of "genocidal" Serbs by such cowardly Munich like peace compromises. See:

Lisbon Agreement

[...] This Lisbon Agreement predated, crucially, the commencement of hostilities by a little more than a fortnight. On March 18, 1992, the three leaders agreed on a constitutional and administrative framework that would allow Bosnia a peaceful entry into the world. Concessions were made on all sides. While not a perfect solution, the agreement, which called for an independent Bosnia divided into three constituent, autonomous and geographically separate parts, was preferable to civil war.

Enter Warren Zimmerman. On March, 28 1992, Zimmerman met with Izetbegovic in Sarajevo. What was said and by whom remains unclear. Zimmerman denies that he told Izetbegovic that if he withdrew his signature, the United States would grant recognition to Bosnia as an independent state. What is indisputable is that Izetbegovic, that same day, withdrew his signature and renounced the agreement. Tucker and Hendrickson judge that "American diplomats acted in an extremely irresponsible manner if, as reported, they advised Izetbegovic to reject the Lisbon formula. If war was to be averted, an agreement respecting cantonization was the last step at which it might have been."
[...]

Europeans would leave Kosovo in Serbian hands!

21 posted on 05/09/2006 1:07:27 PM PDT by A. Pole (Milosevic: "And when they behead your own people [...] then you will know what this was all about.")
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To: montyspython
The UN is trying to create an internationally sanctioned criminal state.

UN? You mean Russia and China?

22 posted on 05/09/2006 1:08:10 PM PDT by A. Pole (Milosevic: "And when they behead your own people [...] then you will know what this was all about.")
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To: FormerLib

"This too shall pass when peace and justice return to Kosovo alongside the Serbian Army."

Amen to that. It would be a wonderful thing if the Army of the Hellenic Republic were marching alongside!


23 posted on 05/09/2006 1:20:28 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Lion in Winter

Bump!


24 posted on 05/09/2006 1:46:00 PM PDT by F-117A
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To: montyspython

Hey, Monty... The Council wastes no time, eh? :) Ace -- former CiC of the US Pacific Fleet -- is on the Advisory Board! The Washington Times, no less!


25 posted on 05/09/2006 1:55:15 PM PDT by Banat (DEO • REGI • PATRIĆ: http://www.SAVEKOSOVO.org)
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To: Banat

:-))))))))))


26 posted on 05/09/2006 2:20:40 PM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: ConservativeMind
This was a war we should have let Europe handle alone. It had no defensive reason to be fought by us.

Disagree. There were three perfectly good reasons for President Clinton to order U.S. military action in Kosovo:

1. Juanita Broaddrick

2. The Cox Report

3. Impeachment

27 posted on 05/09/2006 2:26:25 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: montyspython

Kofi is a crook/thug, more than clinton even.


28 posted on 05/09/2006 3:26:40 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Violent islam is the same as plain islam. No peace at all.... Just mass mayhem.)
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To: Incorrigible

And kill all those MUSLIM ALBANIANS... why, the Saudis would have a bleeping COW!


29 posted on 05/09/2006 3:27:44 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Violent islam is the same as plain islam. No peace at all.... Just mass mayhem.)
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To: Lion in Winter
Kofi is a crook/thug, more than clinton even.

Was the war on Serbia the work of UN?

30 posted on 05/09/2006 3:47:57 PM PDT by A. Pole (Milosevic: "And when they behead your own people [...] then you will know what this was all about.")
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To: A. Pole

THE OCCUPATION sure is!!


31 posted on 05/09/2006 3:51:33 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Violent islam is the same as plain islam. No peace at all.... Just mass mayhem.)
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To: elcid1970
Come on over and read about a "part of the caliphat" that lies in the Balkans... Albanian/UN run Kosovo!!

The Christians there are in serious danger from muslim KLA-criminal gangs !!

32 posted on 05/09/2006 4:09:38 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Violent islam is the same as plain islam. No peace at all.... Just mass mayhem.)
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To: Lion in Winter
"Was the war on Serbia the work of UN?"

THE OCCUPATION sure is!!

Kosovo was occupied by the NATO troops. It was divided into five occupation sectors: German sector in the south, US sector in the south east, British sector in the center, French sector in the north and Italian sector in the west.

The leading role belongs to US. The main military base is Camp Bondsteel, built on 750 acres of former farmland near Urosevic with a 6-mile perimeter and with thousands of US troops.

Russia which had arranged the compromise between NATO and Serbia, was denied any sector despite promises (NATO did not keep the deal). The compromise called for UN control and for the return of Serbian troops after stabilizing Kosovo and for Russian participation.

Russians managed to inject some troops and seized the Pristina airport. It almost led to the armed confrontation with British troops ordered to confront Russians by US general Clark. Fortunately British general refused to obey the orders.

33 posted on 05/09/2006 4:37:31 PM PDT by A. Pole (Solzhenitsyn:"Live Not By Lies" www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/solzhenitsyn/livenotbylies.html)
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To: A. Pole
Yes, but the UN ADMINISTERS the place. And as far as NATO is concerned... THE UN makes real good use of it's "services".

The decision to separate Kosovo will come from where .... wait for it.. the UN!!

I hate the UN so very very much. Don't you????

34 posted on 05/09/2006 6:59:04 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Violent islam is the same as plain islam. No peace at all.... Just mass mayhem.)
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To: Lion in Winter
Yes, but the UN ADMINISTERS the place. And as far as NATO is concerned... THE UN makes real good use of it's "services".

It is NATO which has real power in Kosovo.

The decision to separate Kosovo will come from where .... wait for it.. the UN!!

UN will rubber stamp what the great powers decide.

I hate the UN so very very much. Don't you????

You make UN a into scapegoat and then you hate it. UN is a glamorized debating society for the politicians and a cover for the international power game. It has some good uses and some bad. I neither hate it nor like it.

35 posted on 05/09/2006 7:13:15 PM PDT by A. Pole (Solzhenitsyn:"Live Not By Lies" www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/solzhenitsyn/livenotbylies.html)
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To: A. Pole

The UN's half-assed administration of Kosovo makes it complicit in the overall progrom to completely remove Serbs and erase Serbian culture from Kosovo, they are the political enforcement arm for muslim apologists. The UN is nothing more than a poorly run janitorial service for NATO.


36 posted on 05/10/2006 7:13:50 AM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: montyspython
The UN is nothing more than a poorly run janitorial service for NATO.

Yes, that is why the responsibility is with NATO and not with the janitors.

37 posted on 05/10/2006 7:23:31 AM PDT by A. Pole (Solzhenitsyn:"Live Not By Lies" www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/solzhenitsyn/livenotbylies.html)
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To: A. Pole

The UN is there and partaking in what is going on. They are responsible as well; they are part of the problem. They are well-paid people allowing and greasing the wheels of the system. You can not let them off responsibility. As they are there in large numbers and for almost 7 years, they are guilty too.


38 posted on 05/10/2006 7:34:13 AM PDT by joan
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To: A. Pole
Are you trying to apologize for the UN? The UN has f**ed up every endeavor of importance it has ever attempted, it is a completely corrupted political body.

NATO is just one part of the problem but you'd rather absolve the UN of any responsibility what so ever, give them a "get out of jail free" card. Dude, are you sure you're not a democrat?

39 posted on 05/10/2006 7:49:27 AM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: montyspython
NATO is just one part of the problem but you'd rather absolve the UN of any responsibility what so ever, give them a "get out of jail free" card.

NATO is in real charge in Kosovo. If UN ended its involvement over there what would it change? Please explain!

Dude, are you sure you're not a democrat?

(I am a paleo/social-conservative Independent). NATO involvement in former Yugoslavia is a bipartisan issue. It was started by Clinton administration (with Republican support) and is being continued now.

40 posted on 05/10/2006 8:02:22 AM PDT by A. Pole (Solzhenitsyn:"Live Not By Lies" www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/solzhenitsyn/livenotbylies.html)
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To: A. Pole
"If UN ended its involvement over there what would it change? Please explain!"

If the UN ended its involvement - or never got involved - especially in the beginning. There'd be more chaos for NATO - making their job more difficult. It would also have enabled Serbs to fend for themselves - as the UN police confiscates Serbs weapons.

Also it wouldn't have fed the Albanian criminals - including their brothels. The UN money goes into supporting Kosovo and helped build up the terror-mafia state.

They've parked themselves there for 7 years. They are definitely responsible to a large degree, even if others are even more guilty.

41 posted on 05/10/2006 8:05:23 AM PDT by joan
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To: A. Pole
You obviously didn't understand my statement, democrats are quick to deflect blame and absolve responsibility in favor PC expediency.

"NATO is in real charge in Kosovo. If UN ended its involvement over there what would it change? Please explain!"

Who would replace the UN, hmm?

The UN f**ed up in Africa, was that NATO's fault too?

42 posted on 05/10/2006 8:08:46 AM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: montyspython
The UN f**ed up in Africa, was that NATO's fault too?

I am losing you. War on Serbia and occupation of Kosovo was NATO job. Two out of five permanent members of Security Council were opposed to it so UN was not capable to assume this responsibility. UN was brought later to provide some legitimacy to NATO presence.

43 posted on 05/10/2006 8:12:58 AM PDT by A. Pole (Solzhenitsyn:"Live Not By Lies" www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/solzhenitsyn/livenotbylies.html)
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To: A. Pole
The UN personnel indulge themselves while Serbs are without proper medical treatment and have their electricity cut off for months in the middle of winter. Some American Serbs had to send over generators for the suffering villages.

You are letting them off the hook.

Their money has supported and built up Kosovo. They are not refusing the mission nor have made a real effort to help Serbs who have died because of lack of medical care, medicines, food, heat, etc. while many of them are living high on the hog - and renting homes and apartments to Albanians who cleared them of their Serb owners.

44 posted on 05/10/2006 8:17:37 AM PDT by joan
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To: A. Pole
You are intentionally losing me in favor of trying to apologize for UN negligence.

Based on your line of logic, the KLA should be absolved of any responsibility since as well since they were really puppets of NATO and the CIA. The murders perpetrated by the KLA is really all NATO's fault while Thaci, Ceku etal should simply go scot free because it was all NATO's doing?

45 posted on 05/10/2006 8:19:55 AM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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"and renting homes and apartments to Albanians"

Should be: "and renting homes and apartments from Albanians"

They have helped make the evil Kosova state possible. They also seem rather content and proud of themselves - the organization - that they helped steal the province from Serbia and its all running rather smoothly - for them.

46 posted on 05/10/2006 8:20:03 AM PDT by joan
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To: A. Pole
Who are you kidding???

I am not making the UN into anything....much less a scapegoat!!! HAHHAHA!You are just too funny.

The UN stinks and I hate it for just the reason you state... it is a rubber stamp for the so-called Great Powers and it is a POOR debating society at that.

What a waste of money and energy is the UN.

47 posted on 05/10/2006 8:34:16 AM PDT by Lion in Winter (Violent islam is the same as plain islam. No peace at all.... Just mass mayhem.)
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To: joan; montyspython
You are letting them off the hook.

OK, I give up. The responsibility for war on Serbia and occupation of Kosovo belongs to UN. The attack was led by the Russian and Chinese military. Chinese and Russian troops are supporting Muslim Albanians and standing by during the pogroms against Serbs and Gypsies. Who says otherwise is a Democratic Clintonian dupe. Are you satisfied now?

48 posted on 05/10/2006 8:34:30 AM PDT by A. Pole (Solzhenitsyn:"Live Not By Lies" www.columbia.edu/cu/augustine/arch/solzhenitsyn/livenotbylies.html)
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To: A. Pole

I thought you were better than this... WHY do you defend the UN???


49 posted on 05/10/2006 8:37:46 AM PDT by Lion in Winter (Violent islam is the same as plain islam. No peace at all.... Just mass mayhem.)
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To: A. Pole
The Russians did a few years as KFOR, but then left, saying they couldn't support such a mission because of what was happening to Serbs. However, while there, the Russian soldiers did kill 3 Serbs at the beginning who were shooting back at drive-by Albanian shooters. They were praised by Javier Solana - and NATO relaxed knowing the Russians really would go against them.

We aren't saying NATO isn't guilty, but the UN is a participant and supporter of what is happening.

50 posted on 05/10/2006 8:41:49 AM PDT by joan
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