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Jessica Lynch Ends First Year of College
Yahooooooo! ^ | May 6, 2006 | Allison Barker

Posted on 05/06/2006 1:48:16 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

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To: Jeff Gordon
Is this the same David Hackworth who was screaming on a secure phone asking Carter for permission to withdraw after his Iran hostage mission went to hell in a handbasket?

I wouldn't be too hard on Charlie Beckwith. The guy was headed into a hornet's nest with a few dozen men, and no possibility of resupply or reinforcement. He was outnumbered and outgunned ten thousand to one. The only edge he had was surprise and speed. Even with surprise and speed, you still need a certain amount of basic redundancy. He needed whatever he needed and the outcome would have been a close run thing even if he had everything in place. With the problems encountered during the mission, he would have had difficulty emerging with all the hostages. It would have been irresponsible to send his men with less than he needed into what was effectively a borderline suicide mission anyway. Special Forces people aren't supermen. They can't carry unlimited amounts of ammo, and making faces at the enemy doesn't get them to keep their heads down. They're not bullet proof either, as the mess in Mogadishu showed.
101 posted on 05/06/2006 11:20:14 PM PDT by Zhang Fei
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To: Reagan 76
Please show me where she claimed repeated sodomy. The only time I heard things like that were from people on these threads who were salivating just thinking about her being brutalized by those nasty,ugly Iraqis.

I remember how refreshingly honest her father was. Badgered and pestered by reporters,who were just breathless waiting to hear him say that his daughter was raped and beaten and he was going to avenge her. Instead,he simply said he was going to Germany and he had no comment until he found out what actually happened. I recall thinking what a decent man he was.

When Jessica was able to comment,she too was very mild and it did seem that she was embarrassed about the initial lies about her heroism. Since she was unable to communicate,everything said about her was the product of many minds who had agendas. The government wanted a war hero and feminists wanted a female hero and the media wanted a storybook hero,she was hurt and captured and the men and women with agendas took over. What would any decent person do when they found out what had happened and that it was a pack of lies.

She did much better than most people,she was genuine and pretty quiet,I am sure that there were many from her state and home town that believed all the crap that others had written and went to great lengths to honor her,really what was she to do? Tell them that the war lovers and women fabricated a story that suited their purposes? That would have been the raw truth but she seemed to have the maturity to understand and try to keep people civil.

There was also something very strange about the Iraqi,who supposedly gave the military the info about where she was that allowed them to "save" her with great macho and drama. He and his family were over here practically within the week.

Just leave Jessica Lynch alone,everytime I see her maligned I look at it as a mark against the maligner rather than her.

I know your remark was not maligning her but I just decided this thread had too many nasty remarks about someone who just doesn't deserve them. Sorry,but she never said she was repeatedly sodomized,only people who couldn't possibly have known since she hadn't spoken,as I recall they told her that was what happened.

102 posted on 05/07/2006 12:17:12 AM PDT by saradippity
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To: Donald Meaker

Damn, I was a volunteer, I wish somebody told me I could have hid in a bunker during fire fights.

Of course we were too busy to dig one when the crap hit the fan.


103 posted on 05/07/2006 4:43:01 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: saradippity

Excellent post and thank you for saying it! I'm glad to have clicked on the thread and read your remark first. Every word of it is spot on.


104 posted on 05/07/2006 4:47:57 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: taxcontrol

You are probably correct regarding the brigades. All of these Guard/Reserve combat brigades that had to roll up there flags in the nineties would sure come in handy right now. Massachusetts alone saw four of them go away.


105 posted on 05/08/2006 3:23:12 AM PDT by Reagan 76
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To: Reagan 76
The problem with Guard / Reserve brigades is their long term deploy-ability. Our military leaders have been trained to believe that they can fight and win a war in days / weeks. What has been left out of the equation is the rotational requirements to sustain long term operations. And that includes an stateside rotation frequent enough to keep the dissatisfaction and thus end of service departures low enough, that we can continue to recruit at a level to keep the force full.

To maintain such troop strength would require a larger force to distribute the rotational schedule across than what we currently have. I'm of the opinion that this nation will have to rapidly reach a decision soon.

1) Reduce the rotational schedule - this will appear to be in the form off a draw down in Iraq. Probably the preferred option.

2) Increase recruiting incentives to boost troop levels in shortage units in active / reserve / guard units

3) Live with (accept) a reduction in the guard / reserve staffing levels and thus reach a point where they are marginally deployable.

4) Change the rotation schedule so that active units are carrying more of the burden in Iraq

5) Decline to sustain troop levels in other areas of commitment (NATO, Asia Pac, etc)

6) Abandon the concept of an all volunteer army by attaching the possibility of guard / reserve duty to those that accept college grants or loans.

7) Implement a draft.
106 posted on 05/08/2006 8:51:14 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol

I like number six. You'd have to make it a specific advantaged type of student loan. Even then however, with the Guard providing full tuition to state schools in many cases, they cannot meet the demand.


107 posted on 05/08/2006 9:04:24 AM PDT by Reagan 76
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
"She grew up wanting to be a kindergarten teacher, but abandoned that idea after taking one education class."

I went through the entire K-12 English program at a college with a good reputation for its education program.

I think one source of weakness in the public-education system is the degree programs for education, whether undergraduate (certification) or advanced.

Academe is third-generation Marxism and has become the inbred offspring of a mutant progenitor. "Education" has become indoctrination and social engineering and pedagogy has become a failed attempt of letting the uneducated teach themselves through undeserved positive reinforcement (self esteem is more important than results).

Kudos to Jessica for spotting this early and getting out, if that's what happened.
108 posted on 05/08/2006 9:13:13 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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