Brazil's giant offshore oil discoveries

Even though this article is 6 months old it contains a useful discussion on peak oil and abiotic oil.

1 posted on 05/04/2006 7:33:51 AM PDT by saganite

To: atomic_dog; mc6809e; Balding_Eagle

FYI - Thought you'd all like to see this.

2 posted on 05/04/2006 7:36:39 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (My Pug is On Her War Footing)

Our problem seems to be that the current coalition of radical environmentalists, "Peak-Oil" and "Fossil-Fuel" pessimists, and the political Left are unwilling to step down their rhetoric long enough to look rationally at some real world empirical results.

When has the extreme left ever been able to even fathom the existence of empirical data, let alone accept it. See my tagline...

3 posted on 05/04/2006 7:39:35 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU HAVE NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT. Actually, you lack even a legitimate excuse.)

God bless 'em...
Between their oil drilling & ethanol development, America & Americans could learn a lot from Brazil & Brazilians!
Being independent of foreign oil appears to only be an American dream.

4 posted on 05/04/2006 7:41:30 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)

I will bet RUSH will be talking about this today...

5 posted on 05/04/2006 7:47:28 AM PDT by tubebender (Tagline...I don't need no stinking tagline...)

I doubt it. The article is 6 months old so it's not current enough but it's still useful to post these types of articles here to stimulate the discussion of our oil drilling policy.

6 posted on 05/04/2006 7:49:50 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)

It's kind of depressing to see countries like Brazil moving ahead with energy exploration in a rational way and realize they're working smarter than we are.

7 posted on 05/04/2006 7:51:22 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)

"Between their oil drilling & ethanol development, America & Americans could learn a lot from Brazil & Brazilians!
Being independent of foreign oil appears to only be an American dream."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>.............
A dream because of the eco nut crowd..Brazil drills where oil and gas are..we see oil and gas deposits and put them off limits for not too well documented benefits to either eco systems or man. They blame Exxon when it's green peace and the leftist econuts who have hurt the American consumer the most..but the public will never get it.

8 posted on 05/04/2006 7:54:21 AM PDT by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)

well I am happy for the Brazilians...

and I won't even mention the French who I can't stand but
they are generating 75% of their electricity with nuclear power!

I just wish America & Americans would pay attention!

9 posted on 05/04/2006 7:54:57 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)

This should rule out that any dead dinosaurs or decaying ancient forests formed the oil found off Brazil's shore. Dinosaurs supposed died out in the Crataceous Period at the end of the Mesozoic Era, just before the Cenozoic Era began.

This kind of simplistic, almost deliberately ignorant treatment of the theory of fossil origins of petroleum don't do anything to sway me to the author's point of view. There are plenty of fossil organic sources, many of which are plantktonic.

10 posted on 05/04/2006 7:57:33 AM PDT by dirtboy

To: ConsentofGoverned

I agree but there is blame enough to go around...
the GOP appears to be null and void in the leadership department when it comes to development of energy.

11 posted on 05/04/2006 7:58:20 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)

The writer does not understand Peak Oil Theory.

12 posted on 05/04/2006 7:58:55 AM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)

The 'Peak-oil' and 'fossil-fuel' pessimists couldn't be wrong, they must be drilling so deep they're going right through the earth's core and tapping the Middle East oil fields.

13 posted on 05/04/2006 7:59:59 AM PDT by nh1

It's an ongoing debate and the tide is turning in favor of the abiotic origin of oil. His statement is over the top though. It's not been decided by a long shot.

14 posted on 05/04/2006 8:02:18 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)

Black Gold Stranglehold: The Myth of Scarcity and the Politics of Oil

By Jerome R. Corsi, Ph.D. and Craig R. Smith

Experts estimate that Americans consume more than 25 percent of the world's oil but have control over less than 3 percent of its proven oil supply. This unbalanced pattern of consumption makes it possible for foreign governments, corrupt political leaders, terrorist organizations, and oil conglomerates to hold the economy and the citizens of the United States in a virtual stranglehold. There is no greater proof of this than the direct relationship between skyrocketing gas prices and the explosion of wealth among those who control the world's supply of oil.

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"Black Gold Stranglehold" is a thoughtful work that is certain to dramatically change the debate on oil consumption, oil dependence, and oil availability.

15 posted on 05/04/2006 8:05:55 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)

"God bless 'em...
Between their oil drilling & ethanol development, America & Americans could learn a lot from Brazil & Brazilians!
Being independent of foreign oil appears to only be an American dream."

No it's not a dream we're getting there we just should have made it a national focus immediately after 911.

16 posted on 05/04/2006 8:06:20 AM PDT by iThinkBig

I read a week or so ago that Mexico had a big find off their coast also. I wish we were allowed to drill somewhere.

17 posted on 05/04/2006 8:07:33 AM PDT by chuckles

"we're getting there"

from your mouth to God's ears!

but with no new refineries in the last 30 years,
no new off shore drilling, no drilling in ANWR and no new nuclear plants being built;
I'm not as optimistic as you. LOL

18 posted on 05/04/2006 8:17:37 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)

I wish we were allowed to drill somewhere.

There was just a big find publicized off the coast of Louisiana. We'll be drilling the bejabbers out of that soon enough.

19 posted on 05/04/2006 8:35:18 AM PDT by dirtboy

If you're referring to that article posted here a few times about a 60 billion barrel find off La. that story hasn't been sourced anywhere but the website it was published on and they provided no sources. It's pretty doubtful that it's accurate.

20 posted on 05/04/2006 8:54:02 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)

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