Posted on 04/28/2006 6:39:54 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
No nuclear power, no offshore drilling, boutique fuels, excessive regulations, etc. etc. The only wonder is that CA doesn't collapse in ruins.
A modest proposal: give CA less access to energy from anywhere else in the USA until they come to their senses and begin to produce all the energy they can produce.
These are typical socialist parasites who whine, whine, whine if prices go up but they strangle the free market and block all efforts to increase the supplies of energy.
'sbecause the winds blow from west to east.
In ten years, CA is gonna look like North Korea on one of those 'Earth At Night' maps.
It happens that I drove from Sedona to Bakersfield just today, so the latest word is - 3.499 for regular!
so high gas prices are actually the desired outcome of the policies.
Palo Verde will be happy to sell electricity to anyone who will buy it. Unfortunately two of our three plants are shut down for maintenance at the moment, but once we start up the other two, they won't sit idle with the output breakers open.
I'm sure they're talking about spent nuclear fuel rods when they mention "waste." The article is correct in pointing out that spent fuel is stored onsite at Diablo Canyon. Humboldt Bay had been shut down for over 20 years now, so I doubt there is any spent fuel stored there. And there was no mention of the Rancho Seco plant that has been shut down for many years too.
Spent fuel is stored in shielded casks on concrete pads at nuclear plants all over the country and there is no security problem. By the time terrorists drove a truck in there to try to steal a cask, they would be shot full of holes by the plant's security force. And there would be no way to get explosives in there to blow up a cask for the same reason. I've seen a video of cask testing where they ran a rocket-powered diesel locomotive into one at 70 mph and it just bounced off with a few scratches on the outer surface.
As usual, scientific truth takes a back seat to political posturing, and the citizens of California are the ones who have to suffer.
Well, it looks like we missed an opportunity. Because at least one of Gray Davis's appointees were reappointed last year. BTW, Rosenfeld's claim to fame is studying with Enrico Fermi (who died in 1953). I'd say it's time for some new blood.
http://www.energy.ca.gov/commission/commissioners/index.html
Joseph Desmond
Chairman, California Energy Commission
Appointment Designation: Public at Large
Appointed by Governor Schwarzenegger as member and Chair 5/2005 to 1/2006
Reappointed by Governor Schwarzenegger 1/26/2006 to 1/2011
Jackalyne Pfannenstiel
Vice Chair, California Energy Commission
Appointment Designation: Environmentalist
Appointed by Governor Schwarzenegger 4/20/2004 to 1/2009
Appointed Vice Chair February 2005
Arthur H. Rosenfeld, Ph.D.
Commissioner, California Energy Commission
Appointment Designation: Engineer/Scientist
Appointed by Governor Davis 4/2000 to 1/2005
Reappointed by Governor Schwarzenegger 1/2005 to 1/2010
James D. Boyd
Commissioner, California Energy Commission
Appointment Designation: Economist
Appointed by Governor Davis 2/2002 to 1/2007
John L. Geesman, J.D.
Commissioner, California Energy Commission
Appointment Designation: Attorney
Appointed by Governor Davis 7/2002 to 1/2003
Reappointed by Governor Davis 1/2003 to 1/2008
The bit about waste stored at nuclear plants is another example of how an advantage of nuclear is twisted to look like a disadvantage. The amount of nuclear waste generated in four decades is about the same amount as coal waste that is generated in a few hours (for a given amount of energy generated). So yes, the waste is stored at nuclear plants because it is small enough to be stored there. Coal waste, on the other hand, goes into massive landfills and your lungs.
You forgot wind farms ...the environmentalists are screaming because Red Tail Hawks are getting killed flying into the blades. There is a push to remove them from what I understand.
I say make them live like the Amish.
France's electrical industry is so far ahead of the rest of the world its incredible.
A possibility in Europe is that the big nations like Germany and the UK will not be able to get the will to put in any major generation themselves. But one thing they can do is import electricity from other nations, regardless of how it is generated.
So the French could not only build plants in France to provide power for themselves as their demand grows... But also build plants in France to supply the demand growth in the UK and Germany.. and I would assume a lot of the other surrounding nations as well.
France could get very rich just off of this... and they'd deserve it.
those violators of animal rights?
Yes-BUT....
the price paid for the kWh that you DO use will go up dramatically....you know, good ole' supply and demand...
I've been seeing a lot of articles on power plants in Mexico. Similar?
Let's just build 60% of our Nuclear Power plants in Mexico so we can be 60% dependent on foreign power too. OMG great Idea! I thought of it first!!
Many of our farms have moved south of the border, as well. Its a bit alarming to think about how dependent we are becoming on other countries for many of the basics.
This article said Baja is planning on building a port bigger than Los Angeles and Long Beach combined, with Hutchison Whampoa operating behind the scenes.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/tijuana/20060424-9999-1n24punta.html
In another thread today, the moonbats were out in force protesting a proposed LNG tanker docking facility 13 miles off Monterey.
The offshore drilling moratorium continues.
etc., etc., etc. Why dontcha just rename the place NIMBYLAND?
Yes very!.. the only thing is its scary to do big investments. I would like to see a bunch of nuke plants right on the Mexican side of the border. I'd also put in desalianation with it, to supply some of the Southwest's growing fresh water needs.
Another funny thing is right now Quebec up in Canada is working on gigantic hydro electric developments to export power to the North East. Where they also can't build new generation, but have demand growth I would assume quite a ways above European demand growth.
I think it really shows how powerful culture is in determining these kinds of things. How the French Quebecuers function in the same way as the French in France. Despite being apart of a completely different nation.
Very interesting.. there goes my argument about it being hard to do mega-investments in Mexico.
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