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Bush, Senators Seek Common Ground on Immigration
CNN ^ | 4/26/2006 | EagleUSA

Posted on 04/26/2006 12:54:22 PM PDT by EagleUSA

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush met Tuesday at the White House with a bipartisan group of senators to discuss ways to overhaul immigration, a chat that earned the president kudos from two men normally among his staunchest critics.

The discussion came as an immigration bill sits stalled in the Senate and as Majority Leader Bill Frist prepares to bring the issue back to the Senate floor by Memorial Day.

After the meeting, the senators said Bush expressed support for a package that would create a guest-worker program and would determine ways to address the status of more than 11 million illegal immigrants in the country. (Watch how many people favor legalizing immigrants who have been in the U.S. a long time -- 3:22)

Massachusetts Democratic Sen. Ted Kennedy called the meeting a "bipartisan coming-together" and said, "We still have a ways to go, but I certainly appreciate the president's involvement and his willingness to be engaged."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; amnesty; bipartisanscrewing; bush; commonground; democrats; dimorats; illegal; immigrantlist; immigration; rinos; senate
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Do you see what is coming? Read my lips. AMNESTY. Any time the likes of Kennedy and Reid agree with Bush, we are in major trouble. And we are.
1 posted on 04/26/2006 12:54:26 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA

How about seeking commonground with the people your higness, the same goes for the rest of the DC nobility.


2 posted on 04/26/2006 12:55:57 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: cripplecreek

How about seeking commonground with the people your higness...
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The thought never entered his mind. Fox has his Manchurian Candidate.


3 posted on 04/26/2006 12:56:51 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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But, but, I read that the only people concerned with illegal immigration are FReepers....:)

Anyone willing to admit it knows this is the topic of the day and EVERYONE is talking about it. Even the United States Senate is taking money AWAY from the Iraq War to fight this problem. I think that clearly shows it is a BIG DEAL!

However, any deal that Ted K. is for, I am against.

4 posted on 04/26/2006 12:57:07 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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"Common Politicians seek to Gain Ground on Surrender & Amnesty Bill"
5 posted on 04/26/2006 12:57:13 PM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: EagleUSA

With no thought of securing the borders. Bah!


6 posted on 04/26/2006 12:58:32 PM PDT by jjm2111 (http://www.purveryors-of-truth.blogspot.com)
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To: EagleUSA

Sen. Harry Reid, normally a Bush critic, had praise for the president after Tuesday's meeting.

One of those "A picture is worth a thousand words" moments.

7 posted on 04/26/2006 12:58:42 PM PDT by Cagey (You don't pay taxes - they take taxes. ~Chris Rock)
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To: EagleUSA

Bush has been over on the dark side for a while now.

What part of ILLEGAL does Washington not understand?


8 posted on 04/26/2006 1:00:24 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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However, any deal that Ted K. is for, I am against.
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And that is hard testimony to the singular fact that this is about VOTES. Notice there is no talk OF CLOSING THE BORDER. Just throwing more semi-useless border patrolmen and aircraft at a border that is so easy to cross, a blind man can do it. They don't want to close it...because that could cost VOTES. How tragic for America can it get?


9 posted on 04/26/2006 1:00:31 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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All you need to know about this meeting is that Senators Kyl and Cornyn weren't invited. And according to Rasmussen, people now favor Democrat's on the issue of immigration because they have positioned themselves to be perceived as supporting enforcement.

To quote Rasmussen, "Before the immigration debate exploded on the national scene, Americans were evenly divided as to which political party they trusted more on the issue. After the earliest rounds of the debate, the GOP gained ground and were favored by a 37% to 31% margin.

Since then, Democrats have focused more attention on the enforcement side of the debate. DNC Chairman Howard Dean even stated that enforcement of the border is his party's top priority. As a result, Democrats appear to have won round two of the debate among the general public--42% now trust Dean's party more on this issue while 35% trust the GOP."

10 posted on 04/26/2006 1:01:30 PM PDT by MarcusTulliusCicero
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To: Cagey

Politics makes for strange bedfellows. Laura should be concerned.


11 posted on 04/26/2006 1:02:49 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: EagleUSA

I know and I can't understand why the Republicans don't understand that. Do they really think all these illegal immigrants are going to vote Republican?


12 posted on 04/26/2006 1:03:39 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: EagleUSA

Time to call for a Peaceful Revolution.


13 posted on 04/26/2006 1:06:58 PM PDT by no dems (Condi Rice will never pick cotton on the Democrats' plantation.)
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To: EagleUSA

Time to call for a Peaceful Revolution.


14 posted on 04/26/2006 1:07:00 PM PDT by no dems (Condi Rice will never pick cotton on the Democrats' plantation.)
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Bush, Senators Seek Common Ground on Immigration

However he has not consulted the citizens, at least not the legal ones.

15 posted on 04/26/2006 1:13:28 PM PDT by itsahoot ("God has given to each a measure of Faith") See we don't even get to pick how much of that we have.)
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However he has not consulted the citizens, at least not the legal ones.
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He does not want to hear the truth from the REAL American people. Fox wins. He has his Manchurian Candidate right in the Oval office...


16 posted on 04/26/2006 1:16:45 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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personally, i am flummoxed by this thralldom to a "guest worker program" by bush and some on this site.

UCLA recently did a study on the relationship between farm wages and the price of produce (the proverbial $5 a head of lettuce, and all that). per the study, farm wages account for 15% of the price at the market. in other words, of your $1.00 head of lettuce or pound basket of strawberries, farm wages are about 15 cents.

okay, everyone, let's put on our thinking caps ... what happens then if you double wages to $20 an hour, or treble them to $30, or, or, well, why not? times four to $40 an hour?

answer: head of lettuce costs a buck and a quarter. (yawn.) and, and ... all of a sudden we got a million or two american citizens in california off the welfare roles and making 80k a year, instead of a bunch of illegals living off the taxpayers. why is that such a bad idea?

and ... the $5 a head lettuce canard? the study concluded that farm wages would have to rise to $300 or $500 an hour (can't remember, but it was hundreds) for that to happen, and for that kinda dough, not only would i be the first in line to pick strawberries, but i would wager that a lot of people reading this thread would be right behind me in line.

and who would dispute that all of the farm positions would be filled by competent, capable, grateful americans ecstatic to have such a job at levels considerably less than $300 an hour. $100? $50? get it?

i'm in favor of a wall. enforcement. deportation. employers in jail. meaningful stuff.

but the answer in a way is simpler: we all pay thirty or forty cents more for a head of lettuce (big deal) and the problem goes away. moreover, potential prosperity for millions of unskilled and young americans.

and this is the crux of the problem with the whole guest worker nonsense which works as follows: place an ad: strawberry pickers for $4 an hour. no takers. (gee, whiz.) okay. then the farmer gets to bring in as much third-world trash as he wishes with the blessings of the federal government. huh?!?

well, how 'bout this instead: place another ad: $20 an hour for strawberry pickers? or $30? or whatever market forces require?

importing third-world slave labor, legally or otherwise, to undermine the basic economic law of supply and demand is not the answer. it's the problem.

why not an ad, instead of strawberry picker for four bucks an hour, oh, say, school teacher for four bucks an hour? or store manager for four bucks an hour? or engineer or doctor or nurse or tire guy for four bucks? (you know, the jobs americans won't do.)

"oh, i advertised but couldn't fill the positions. so now i get to import guatemalens."

all of them.

the answer is not to import cheap labor. the answer is to raise the pay of americans to the level that is necessary to attract and keep qualified people. simple. everyone (except george bush and the senate) knows this. (actually, they do, too. but they lie.) even harry reid. my five year old daughter knows this. it is an economic law, immutable as gravity.

and finally, what is this smug, superior attitude of everyone that strawberry pickers deserve to be abused with low wages, disrespect, etc.? what is inferior about a job (the jobs) that place food on our tables? that feed our nation as well as others?

just 'cause it doesn't take a degree from berkeley? (which i had thought we had all agreed was not necessarily a good thing?!?)

why not reward the people who actually do something good for each of us every day (putting strawberries on our tables) instead of the swine brainwashing our children to believe crap (professors at berkeley). who says a teacher should make more? (cushy indoor job. don't have to get your hands dirty. work half the year. etc. face it: if we weren't f*****g with the laws of economics, strawberry pickers WOULD be paid more than teachers.)

17 posted on 04/26/2006 1:17:12 PM PDT by johnboy
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If Ted the Swimmer and Reid approve of Bush's actions, we KNOW we have a problem. The last time Dems approved of something Bush did, we got Harriet Miers.

By the way, this was a SPECIAL meeting. As noted on an earlier post today, certain Senators - all Republicans - were NOT invited. Senators who disagreed with Bush's open door policy for illegal invaders were kept out.

Obviously, none of the Dems would disagree - besides, they're toobusy signing up illegals to vote in 2006 so they can impeach Bush.

Does any of this amke sense??

I don't think so.


18 posted on 04/26/2006 1:21:19 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: johnboy
UCLA recently did a study on the relationship between farm wages and the price of produce (the proverbial $5 a head of lettuce, and all that). per the study, farm wages account for 15% of the price at the market. in other words, of your $1.00 head of lettuce or pound basket of strawberries, farm wages are about 15 cents.

Do you have a source for that? That is interesting.

What about restaurant and hotel workers? Landscapers? etc...

19 posted on 04/26/2006 1:26:07 PM PDT by conserv13
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Senators who disagreed with Bush's open door policy for illegal invaders were kept out.
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Yes, and it makes sense. We have a tyrant in the Oval Office, when it comes to his support for ILLEGAL immigrants and his buddy, Vincente Fox. Bush is not only hurting the country, but the elections of 2006 and 2008 are going to be ugly. He is setting up the ThugoRats and destroying our soverignty at the same time -- all at the expense of the American citizen, AGAINST THE WILL OF THE MAJORITY OF CITIZENS, just to satisfy his One World Latino love for ONE AMERICA.

Take a hard look at what is happening America -- a REAL HARD look.


20 posted on 04/26/2006 1:27:05 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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