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VIEWS & ANALYSIS. Kosovo: The emerging terror state
Serbianna ^ | 24 April 2006 | M. Bozinovich

Posted on 04/24/2006 3:08:45 PM PDT by Doctor13

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To: DustyMoment
The Serbs were probably the second most depised people on Hitler's list. The Serbian uprising (coup d'etat, March 27, 1941) delayed Operation Barbarossa (the invasion of the USSR) and caused the Germans to get bogged down and decimated by the Russian winter. His bombing of Belgrade was codenamed Operation Punishment for a reason. In addition, the unrest in the Balkans forced Hitler to send a bunch of divisions to the peninsula - the divisions he needed on the Eastern Front.

Had he had the extra soldiers and the crucial weeks he had to spend on the Balkan problem, the course of history would've been much different.

His hatred of the Serbs, however, goes back to WWI. The Royal Serbian Army humiliated the Cental Powers by pulverizing the invading Austro-Hungarian armies three times in as many months in the early days of the war. The first Allied victory in WWI was actually won by the Serbs (The Battle of Tser).

21 posted on 04/25/2006 5:17:34 PM PDT by Banat (DEO • REGI • PATRIÆ)
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To: Banat
Yes, it was a fine interview/article with Julia Gorin. She helped to highlight the plight of the remaining Jewish families in Kosovo in 1999. They were torched out of their homes en masse by the KLA death squads and with NATO officers watching.

The Saudis have been pouring money into Kosovo, recruiting the young and the terminally dim-witted to their cause.

It's funny, but every single minority strongly supported the Serbs in Kosovo: the Turks, the Rom, many of the Roman Catholic ethnic Albanians, the so called loyalists.
The Circassians, in a couple of villages, were extremely pro Serbian, were armed by the Belgrade authorities to fight the KLA, and were the first minority group to be ethnically cleansed: in 1998.

Under Serb rule their culture was respected: they could be educated in their own language, etc.

And now they've all gone.

Don't worry about Hoplite, his definition of evidence is Islamist military intelligence agents who were trained by Tehran.

'nuff said.
22 posted on 04/25/2006 8:18:24 PM PDT by infidel_and_proud
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To: infidel_and_proud
A fine article/interview with Napoleoni, about the Balkans, Islamist terror and the drug trade.

http://antiwar.com/deliso/

http://www.balkanalysis.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=657

Scary Movie Part V
23 posted on 04/25/2006 8:46:06 PM PDT by infidel_and_proud
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To: DustyMoment

D.M.

Sorry for the late response to this, but I think you may have confused "Serbs", with "Ukranians", in your late-night-TV documentary viewing. There were NO Serbs among the many nationalities who faught in the Waffen SS.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffen-SS

But there were quite a few Ukranians serving as camp guards. Most notable among them, a former American Steelworker, John Demjanjuk, whom Justice Dept. investigators identified as a former camp guard named "Ivan the Terrible". His trials -- in the U.S., and in Israel -- took over a decade, I think, and were sometimes front page stuff.

But he, like the other guys, were all Ukranians, not Serbs


24 posted on 04/26/2006 7:50:01 AM PDT by MoJoWork_n (We don't know what it is we don't know)
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To: Doctor13
Already posted here
25 posted on 04/26/2006 8:57:18 AM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: MoJoWork_n
Sorry for the late response to this, but I think you may have confused "Serbs", with "Ukranians", in your late-night-TV documentary viewing.

You know, I think you're right!! That makes a lot more sense.

And, don't apologize for coming late to the party, in this case the info is VERY valuable and I appreciate you helping me correct an error on my part.
26 posted on 04/26/2006 8:58:42 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Hoplite; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; joan; ...
The question is why did we support the Islamic terrorist against the Serbs?

I just know that pancake boy hates seeing the truth about the murderous Muhammedans come to light!

27 posted on 04/26/2006 12:44:23 PM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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To: Hoplite
When Osama has ordered his followers to attack us wherever they find us?

The cowardly KLA know that they only reason they live is because of the UN's misguided attempts to protect them.

Fortunately, the KLA criminals are just so stupid that they have started to run into trouble with the UN forces and will probably start killing some in time.

Then the UN pulls out, and the Serb Army returns to Kosovo-Metohija and restores both Peace and Justice to that beleaguered province.

28 posted on 04/26/2006 12:50:42 PM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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To: Hoplite; MoJoWork_n
When Osama has ordered his followers to attack us wherever they find us?

Nothing but Serbian BS, that's what.

The phenomenon of "Wahhabism" has assumed wide and alarming proportions in all Albanian lands and in the Albanian diaspora in the West.

29 posted on 04/26/2006 3:07:55 PM PDT by F-117A
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To: F-117A

To be honest, I can't be sure that "Wahhabism" has had much of an influence either way. Big piles of money have been spent on assorted construction projects, but has it really made those folks any more intolerant, arrogant and paranoid than they were before?

Who could tell, one way or the other?

(It's like wondering if the influence of the Catholic church has been growing on Tony Soprano, because Carmella and some of the other wives have Pollo Vesuvio with the priest, at Artie's Place, once a week?)

Which won't stop the surly and ill-tempered "Hoplite" from continuing to mutter darkly to himself, in a corner, about Serbian guilt, treachery, and treacherous guiltiness...


30 posted on 04/26/2006 3:30:28 PM PDT by MoJoWork_n (We don't know what it is we don't know)
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To: MoJoWork_n; F-117A

Speaking of you-know-who, would anyone know where I could obtain a picture of a jihadist with a pancake on its head?


31 posted on 04/26/2006 4:11:09 PM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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To: F-117A
The phenomenon of "Wahhabism" has assumed wide and alarming proportions in all Albanian lands and in the Albanian diaspora in the West.

Uh-huh. Hence all those attacks on American troops and interests in Albanian areas.

You can fool yourself all you want - have fun with it.

32 posted on 04/26/2006 4:19:58 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite; F-117A

The cowardly KLA know that they only reason they live is because of the UN's misguided attempts to protect them.

Fortunately, the KLA criminals are just so stupid that they have started to run into trouble with the UN forces and will probably start killing some in time.

Then the UN pulls out, and the Serb Army returns to Kosovo-Metohija and restores both Peace and Justice to that beleaguered province.


33 posted on 04/26/2006 4:27:05 PM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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To: Hoplite
Haha!! What's the matter hoppie??? Looks like your heroes are not looking so good!!! Islamics NEVER look AND they are never any GOOD, EVER!!

Maybe the Tamil tigers need a booster on FR??? They like pancakes too!!

LOL~~ LOL!!!!

And by the way, pup... I STILL HAVE ALL MY OWN TEETH!

So, go GUM yourself!

34 posted on 04/26/2006 4:32:36 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Violent islam is the same as plain islam. No peace at all.... Just mass mayhem.)
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To: DustyMoment; joan
>>>>>>>I know from some WWII documentaries that some of the Nazi concentration camps had Serbian guards whose brutality, apparently, was legendary"<<<<<<

In Third reich, Concentration camps were guarded by special SS units. The most of them were Germans, but there were many Ukrainians, Lithuanians and others.

Hitler's Balkan Waffen SS units were Croats, Muslims and Albanians. They were guarding the transports towards the death camps.

There were no Serbs in SS. What you claim is not supprted by the hard historical facts.

I have no idea what kind of WWII documentaries you have seen. I have seen Martians on TV landing close to The White House (Cross my heart, it was on Sci-Fi channel)

35 posted on 04/26/2006 5:25:12 PM PDT by DTA
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To: Hoplite; MoJoWork_n; FormerLib; Lion in Winter
The phenomenon of "Wahhabism" has assumed wide and alarming proportions in all Albanian lands and in the Albanian diaspora in the West.

Uh-huh. Hence all those attacks on American troops and interests in Albanian areas.

You can fool yourself all you want - have fun with it.

I guess Islamic theologian Zekeria Idrizi has fooled himself too!

36 posted on 04/26/2006 6:13:17 PM PDT by F-117A
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To: DTA; DustyMoment

In all fairness, DustyMoment recognized his mistake and stated so in post #26.

I have to give him a lot more credit for admitting a mistake than is typical on most threads.


37 posted on 04/26/2006 8:01:54 PM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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To: F-117A
it is not by accident that the "Wahhabi" phenomenon emerged at such a sensitive time for our national cause when we were in danger of being biologically exterminated. It was quite typical that the political-military establishment of the Slav-Orthodox Serbs would allow this despicable phenomenon to spread in our ethnic lands because "Wahhabism" did the dirty work for Pan-Slavism by sowing division among Albanians over religious nonsense coming from Bin-L! adin types and by portraying Albanians as "Islamic fundamentalists" in the eyes of the international community.

Just goes to show - if anything is jacked out of shape, it's a Serb's fault.

Or perhaps you'd care to reconsider how much credence you're going to give this article?

38 posted on 04/26/2006 8:04:53 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
hoppie's islamic heroes....he defends them all.... All muslims of any stripe are his HEROES!! LOL!!

Hey, hoppie, what flavor pancake is ON YOUR HEAD.... humus???

39 posted on 04/26/2006 8:18:22 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (Violent islam is the same as plain islam. No peace at all.... Just mass mayhem.)
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To: Hoplite
So you still believe that islamist eavesdroppers who were trained by Iranian VEVAK are truthful?

Pooooooooooor hoplite. Simple to the end.

Were you born simple or was it manufactured in the "self hating westerner" version.

But you're full of crap so you heap it onto the Serbs. You hate yourself but lack the bollocks, so, manufacture an evil.

GET SELF HELP, YOU WESTERN SELF HATER.

P.S. I'm still waiting for why you think are Islamists who were trained by Iranian VEVAK are EVIDENCE.

EVIDENCE?

To me and anyone else it smells of Muhammad's loincloth.

i.e. Full of crap. But to sweet islamist wannabe hoppy, it smells of paradise.

You're pathetic.
40 posted on 04/27/2006 1:16:03 AM PDT by infidel_and_proud
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