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A Major Victory (Iraq)
NRO ^ | April 24, 2006 | Masthead Editorial

Posted on 04/24/2006 12:56:05 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: Tallguy

Thank you for the info. It sounds like a pain in the a$$ way to run a government but given the numerous factions in Iraq and the muslim propensity to settle every problem with a gun or a bomb, it's probably the best type of government for them. Sounds like it forces them to work together.


41 posted on 04/24/2006 2:34:17 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (It wasn't the spikes that kept Him on the cross.)
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To: samadams2000

and then we should dump our garbage there for 1000 years. The "good people" of Iran have had enough time to enter the civilized world. They have the government they deserve.



I really have no problem with anything in this post.


42 posted on 04/24/2006 2:35:08 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (It wasn't the spikes that kept Him on the cross.)
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To: trubluolyguy

It means nothing to me.



First off, thanks.

I know what you mean, but from the muzzie mercenary side, you have to understand these guys are like rock stars.

We are taking out the "role-models" that little wannabe terroristas look up to.


43 posted on 04/24/2006 2:35:29 PM PDT by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascism)
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To: neverdem
Bump to the top!
44 posted on 04/24/2006 2:36:37 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: SFC Chromey

We are taking out the "role-models" that little wannabe terroristas look up to.



I guess it would just be nice to be told more. Being left in the dark and then hearing nothing but "another car bomb went off" or "we caught(yet another) number two" just leads to a long slow bleed of support for the....I don't even feel right calling it a war anymore, but lacking a better term, war.


45 posted on 04/24/2006 2:38:37 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (It wasn't the spikes that kept Him on the cross.)
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To: neverdem

BTW, it should be pointed out that continued instability in Iraq is a good thing, since it means that we still need to base troops there and are a major player in the ME.

Note that world terror is on the run, and nearly all the countries quietly funding and supporting it have come over to our side, including, to some degree, Iran and Syria. This is working out to plan geo-politically. Domestically however, most voters are confused and have forgotten the lessons of 9/11. We'll see how it imacts the elections.


46 posted on 04/24/2006 2:41:33 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: trubluolyguy
That's just it. What is "too soon?" My daughter will be 17 this year. She is considering enlisting in the Army (yes I am very proud of her) but I want to know if in 2 to 3 years when she is out of basic and advanced training, can I expect her to be going to the desert to continue to fight the "war" that has been over since shortly after Saddam fell?

Your daughter should not enlist unless she is prepared to go anywhere anytime for any length of time. My son will be home from Iraq on the 30th of this month. Its the end of his third combat tour. The Gulf war, Bosnia, and Iraq. Some wars in history have lasted a 100 years. This has been a small war with few causalities but there is still no time clock where you can punch in and out.

47 posted on 04/24/2006 2:46:54 PM PDT by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: trubluolyguy
"Why are we still there"

If it has to be explained to you at this late date, then either you've been living in a cave for the last ten years or you're just an obstinate liberal. I hope it's the former.

48 posted on 04/24/2006 2:59:33 PM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: trubluolyguy
...can I expect her to be going to the desert to continue to fight the "war" that has been over since shortly after Saddam fell?

We are fighting a Global War on Terror. It will not end anytime soon, so the short answer is yes. We have a volunteer military. If one does not want to be sent to a war zone, they should not enlist.

The current front is Iraq. We were told on 11-8-01:
"We are at the beginning of our efforts in Afghanistan, and Afghanistan is only the beginning of our efforts in the world. No group or nation should mistake Americans' intentions: Where terrorist group exist of global reach, the United States and our friends and allies will seek it out and we will destroy it."

April 17, 2002:
In the second phase of the war on terror, our military and law enforcement intelligence officers are helping countries around the world in their efforts to crack down on terror within their borders. Global terrorism will be defeated only by global response. We must prevent al Qaeda from moving its operations to other countries. We must deny terrorists the funds they need to operate. We must deny them safe havens to plan new horrors and indoctrinate new recruits.

49 posted on 04/24/2006 3:32:28 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! I *LOVE* my attitude problem. Beware the Enemedia!)
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To: trubluolyguy
The war against the Saddam regime is long over. Why are we still there?

Because the Iraqi government wants us there and the Mission isn't over. We are still killing AQ, which has declared Iraq as the frontline against the US. Remember those guys? The ones who declared war against us in 1996 and attacked us repeatedly culminating with 9/11.

Iraq is part of the WOT.

50 posted on 04/24/2006 4:38:12 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Calpernia

Thanks for the ping!


51 posted on 04/24/2006 11:15:20 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: neverdem

This is a step in the right direction. It seems like the nation is stabalizing a bit from where it was a couple months ago. The insurgency is running out of time.


52 posted on 04/24/2006 11:16:55 PM PDT by Naptowne
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To: neverdem
"The Shia militias, who have contributed more than their share to the sectarian violence of late, will have to be put out of business eventually."

This should have happened years ago.

53 posted on 04/24/2006 11:18:27 PM PDT by Naptowne
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To: trubluolyguy
So our folks are coming home? No. Al Zarqawi caught/dead? hmmmm, No. What is the major victory again?

Slap myself on the head. How could I forget that these are the only two things that can ever comprise a major victory.

Of course, when these two things happen, the folks who use those definitions for a victory now will then morph the definition so that victories, or even progress, are always impossible.

Frankly, I would rather see a consensual Iraqi government than Zarqawi's head on a stick. Even better, both.

But to denigrate the obvious and significant milestone this represents suggests that the denigrator is not interested in reality, but only denigration.

54 posted on 04/24/2006 11:29:21 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: ModelBreaker

But to denigrate the obvious and significant milestone this represents suggests that the denigrator is not interested in reality, but only denigration.



Reality is boring, gimme the head on the stick.


55 posted on 04/25/2006 6:51:22 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (It wasn't the spikes that kept Him on the cross.)
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To: trubluolyguy
I only wish this had been articulated by the white house since before the war began.

It has...repeatedly.

56 posted on 04/25/2006 6:59:49 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: neverdem; MikefromOhio; Coop; StarCMC
Purveyors of doom on Iraq now have some explaining to do: If the country is in the midst of a full-scale civil war fatal to our project there, how is it that elected representatives of the major factions were able to sit down and hammer out an agreement on the top positions in a national unity government? Iraq pessimists act like they have a special immunity from ever having to recalibrate their view of the conflict, as they instead move on to the latest iteration of their metaphysical despair.

YEAH! Take that! And that to every troll who has dissed me on this site for speaking the truth about Iraq.

EAT IT!! :-)

(I figured I'd take the mature approach...LOL)

57 posted on 04/25/2006 7:02:58 AM PDT by Allegra (7...)
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To: trubluolyguy
What is the major victory again?

That, once again, you remind us that you're not to be taken seriously. Not that it's any great victory anymore -- it's too predictable.

58 posted on 04/25/2006 7:07:10 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: trubluolyguy

Do you work for CNN?


59 posted on 04/25/2006 7:23:40 AM PDT by Allegra (7...)
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To: Allegra

Do you work for CNN?



See, Ask a simple question and get a bunch of insults. I had some questions about why this story is such "great news" and those questions got answered, thank you.


60 posted on 04/25/2006 7:28:06 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (It wasn't the spikes that kept Him on the cross.)
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