Me too. The only way i can see Condi replacing Cheney is if his health were to deteriorate any further. I'm a big fan of Dr. Rice and Vice President Cheney.
Posted on 04/22/2006 6:42:26 PM PDT by wagglebee
REPUBLICANS are urging President George W Bush to dump Dick Cheney as vice-president and replace him with Condoleezza Rice if he is serious about presenting a new face to the jaded American public.
They believe that only the sacrifice of one or more of the big beasts of the jungle, such as Cheney or Donald Rumsfeld, the defence secretary, will convince voters that Bush understands the need for a fresh start.
The jittery Republicans claim Bush’s mini-White House reshuffle last week will do nothing to forestall the threat of losing control of Congress in the November mid-term elections.
Fred Barnes of the Weekly Standard magazine and author of Rebel in Chief, a sympathetic new biography of Bush, said: “There are going to have to be sweeping personnel changes if people are going to take a second look at the Bush presidency.”
Barnes, who is close to the White House, said he believed Cheney would be willing to stand down in order to help Bush. “It’s unlike Bush to dump somebody whom he likes and respects,” he cautioned. “But the president needs to do something shocking and dramatic such as putting in Condoleezza Rice.”
Cheney appeared to have beeen caught napping during a visit to the Oval Office by China’s president, Hu Jintao, on Friday, although he claimed he had been looking down at his notes. It has often been said that he would cite medical reasons should he ever resign.
The best scenario, Barnes added, would be for Bush to announce that “Dick Cheney will be around as an outside adviser and I can call him on the phone, but I’d like to anoint somebody who I think will be the next leader of the United States”.
Tom Edmonds, a leading Republican consultant, said the White House had failed to grasp that the party was in desperate straits. “I have never talked to so many disenchanted Republicans,” he said. “The president even stonewalled the minor changes he made by talking about how he was really perfectly happy with his team. He didn’t even give himself wiggle room.”
One Republican strategist, who did not want to be named, said: “If I were Bush I would think of changing Cheney. It is one of the few substantial things he can do to change the complexion of his administration. The rest is nibbling around the edges.”
Bush’s new chief of staff, Joshua Bolten, quickly put his stamp on the inner workings of the White House last week by stripping Karl Rove, Bush’s most powerful adviser, of his policy-making role and ordering him to concentrate on his forte: winning elections.
Bolten also obtained the resignation of the White House spokesman, Scott McClellan, who was nicknamed Piggy in a recent Vanity Fair article because of his resemblance to the hapless victim of the feral boys in Lord of the Flies.
Tony Snow, a Fox News broadcaster who is favoured to replace McClellan, has previously described the Bush administration as “listless” and in dire need of change.
But a new communicator cannot reinvent an old team. Edmonds believes Rumsfeld should go. “The president is loyal to a fault,” he said. “His loyalty shouldn’t be to Rumsfeld but to the troops in Afghanistan and Iraq. We need a new, strong face on the war, such as Senator John McCain or Joe Lieberman (the pro-war Democrat senator).”
Bob Schieffer, a CBS news television presenter, said Bush may yet drop Rumsfeld despite his strong declaration of support. “It was also this president who said, ‘Brownie, you’re doing a heck of a job’ and that was just before Brownie got canned,” Schieffer said, referring to Michael Brown, who directed the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s much-criticised response to Hurricane Katrina.
John Snow, the Treasury secretary, has been left twisting in the wind while replacements for him are openly discussed, and Rob Portman has been brought in to replace Bolten as budget director. Suggestions that Harriet Miers, Bush’s White House counsel who was dropped as his supreme court nominee, would be next to go were denied last week.
Supporters say Bush should live up to his bold claim that he is “the decider” — made while rejecting recent calls for Rumsfeld’s resignation from half a dozen senior generals — and start firing senior people rather than backroom staff.
“If the Democrats win either the House of Representatives or the Senate it will be death and torment. It will be horrible for Bush,” said Barnes. A Democrat win could lead to moves to impeach Bush for leading the country to war on allegedly false pretences, or at the very least, to bog down the president’s legislative programme until he leaves office in 2008.
Rove has been privately warning party activists to expect some losses in the mid-term elections. One insider said: “I’ve heard him say at several party gatherings that the president wasn’t supposed to win in 2000, but he did. We’ve increased our margins of victory time and again. We can’t just keep winning on top of winning so we’re bound to slip back, but we’re still doing better than you would historically expect.”
Only one two-term victor has been more unpopular than Bush at a similar six-year stage in his presidency — Richard Nixon in the months before he was impeached.
exactly..they dont report what is actually going on, but on what they wish was going on.
Sounds like horse manure to me.
What pap! This article reads like Howard Dean's nocturnal emmisions!
I think the Brits should dump the Queen for Barbra Streisand. So there!
Personally, I like Cheney/Rice for 2008
I know, I know...Cheney says he's not running...
Next week? Rice of course, for her "failure" in iraq to get a government done.
I don't care who knows it; I Love Dick. *Smirk* No, seriously, I think Mr. Cheney has done a fine job.
I mean, really. Look back through History at some of our VPs. Compare and contrast. Talk amongst yourselves. ;)
these morons don't know that Pres. Bush can't dump Cheney ?
Incredibly stupid statement. Yeah, changing the VP will fix everything! Actually Cheney napping while listening to a commie makes me chuckle.
John Kasich read this on his show tonight...and pretty much agreed will all of it...blech.
I do NOT understand why Fred Barnes is saying these things..sigh
And the political hacks believe that if they repeat something often enough, it will matter.
"The party" is not the most important thing in the world. I hope President Bush will keep doing what he thinks is right, for the nation and for the world, and not be guided by the whinings of congresscritters and political hacks who fear for their jobs.
Frankly, getting bounced out of power might be just the wake-up call the Republican Party needs. If we're going to have out-of-control socialist spending on ever-expanding federal programs, it might as well be with Democrats at the helm -- less hypocrisy, at least. And an out-of-power Republican party is much more likely to get serious about attacking that evil, than an out-of-power Democrat party OR an in-power Republican party.
pffft.
Rice as VP for Bush's third term? We could only wish.
Actually, I think they are on to something, a wholesale reshuffle at the top. Rice to VP, Cheney to State. Rumsfeld to CIA (we'll just fold CIA into the Defense Department, the few who can still pass a security clearance check).
Actually, you said it better than anyone.
It works for me!!!
If the Democrats promised to make Bush stay a conservative and make our Republican congressmen stop being a bunch of corrupt big spenders, I'd vote for them. But the only thing they care about is impeaching him and that sort of crap.
I have no problems with Dick Cheney, none whatsoever. Any "jadedness" that I've acquired has occurred in the past year, and centers upon our president and the choices he's made.
That said, Condoleeza Rice would not displease me as vice president. I just wouldn't want to see Cheney booted for that purpose.
I really think the London Times is talking out their, ahem, nether regions on this, though.
>REPUBLICANS are urging President George W Bush to dump Dick Cheney as vice-president and replace him with Condoleezza Rice <
Dick Cheney was elected. Bush can't dump him.
Stupid Brits.
And Cheney is NOT a fool!
SECOND term. Don't you listen?
He was SELECTED not ELECTED for the first four years!
Sarcasm off, just in case.
If any change were to be made, I would have Cheney and Rumsfeld change places, so that Rumsfeld would be well-placed to run for President in 2008, but that would require two confirmations, and I'm not sure they would get through. I'd rather have Rumsfeld than Rice as the Republican nominee in 2008.
OUTSTANDING SUGGESTION!!!
Nicholas Burns can replace Dr. Rice very capably - in fact he's been out there quite a lot this week.
In preparation, perhaps?
The VP has stated he will see his term out and IMHO he will
To compile with "my" rules on Cheney threads here are a couple of pics.
He is a man that likes to be well prepared and always has reams of notes with him, notice whenever in a meeting he has more notes than anyone even the President.
He often attends joint meetings with the President but often not reported as the official photo ops only show the President he has already slipped out before the press enter.
I suspect he was either due to go back into another meeting or was reading up on notes whilst fresh in his mind whilst the press nonsense was going on. Much more useful that paying attention to that.
Freudian press slip?
Absolutely and VP Cheney is no ones fool
The American press has said as well so not just stupid Brits
The English seem incapable of understanding the American constitutional system. The last Veep to resign was John C. Calhoun and that was because Jackson had a personal beef with him.
But that got skipped over pretty fast...
>The American press has said as well so not just stupid Brits<
Stupid American press is an oxymoron. I'd have thought the British press would have had more sense.
But then again, they're journalists.
LOL! I love your tagline. Best laugh I've had today.
Thanks,
no dems
Perhaps the thread could more constructively be titled "Draft Condi for VP, Bush urged"
There's no question Cheney has served one of the most valuable lives of American public service in history. He was crucial in the first Iraq war under W's father, and he's a terrific guy.
But he's not going to help Republicans do anything. Zip. Zero. He's become like Bob Dole. Capable, heroic, but uninspiring to the American electorate.
Republicans need to start thinking ahead. 2008. 2006 (though that's not really ahead anymore)
A Vice President Rice - would energize and totally charge the public debate. It would bring a generation of young African Americans kicking and screaming to head-on confront the nature of race relations in 21st century America.
And she's every bit as capable, as Cheney.
It's time for a new face.
It's time for Republicans to surprize and inspire.
Draft Condoleezza!
Perhaps but the possibility of a die-hard conservative napping while listening to a commie still makes me laugh.
"Rice to VP, Cheney to State. Rumsfeld to CIA (we'll just fold CIA into the Defense Department, the few who can still pass a security clearance check)."
EXCELLENT IDEA! (IMO)
Absolutely and if they think it will sell a few papers or give them air time they will say it even if they know it either impossible or untrue.
REPUBLICANS? Does that mean just two or many?
Dump Rumsfeld. Dump Chaney. That's all we hear from the media. Why don't they just give it a rest? Some reporters think they are so damn smart and know all about how to run this country. They couldn't run their kid's toy train without derailing it. If they are so smart let them run for office. They won't because they couldn't get elected to their town counsel.
Yep. That's my guy. I know he wouldn't win but I wish Cheney could succeed Bush.
Horse manure makes good compost. You can add to it all the newspapers as well.
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