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When drivers are distracted
The Washington Times ^ | 4-21-06 | Ken Thomas

Posted on 04/21/2006 10:57:09 AM PDT by JZelle

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To: Rakkasan1
"drivers" refers to people driving on the actual road, not the ditch,curb,shoulder,etc.

That would make them 'aimers'... in my experience, 40-50% of the drivers I see on the road...

41 posted on 04/21/2006 12:23:15 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: JZelle
Just another stupid excuse to appease cellphone haters and to give the john q laws another reason to collect revenue from you and look for drugs in your trunk.

Only statists support this kind of drek.
42 posted on 04/21/2006 12:23:33 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

one more reason I'm happy with the 130db airhorn upgrade.


43 posted on 04/21/2006 12:26:29 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (they love you in Mexico until you pay in pesos.)
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To: mysterio

If distracted drivers were only a danger to themselves I would be all for the law of jungle, the problem is they aren't.


44 posted on 04/21/2006 12:30:02 PM PDT by rattrap
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To: mysterio
Just another stupid excuse to appease cellphone haters and to give the john q laws another reason to collect revenue from you and look for drugs in your trunk.

OK, I'm a cellphone hater now. It comes with strange powers... I can tell an idiot on a cell phone long before I can confirm it, 9 times out of 10.
How do you explain that?

45 posted on 04/21/2006 12:30:54 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: Rakkasan1
one more reason I'm happy with the 130db airhorn upgrade.

I love my H-D, but I got to admit the stock horn on that thing is very faggy. I got fairly loud Vance & Hines Straightshots, though.

46 posted on 04/21/2006 12:31:19 PM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Then you better eliminate passengers. They talk to you too.

Folks do NOT drive while doing anything but driving.

Not realistic. Better: Learn how to multi task and divide attention appropriately while driving.

Also, avoid diverting your attention from driving during crucial moments: heavy traffic up ahead, curvy or narrow stretch of road, pedestrians. I won’t adjust the radio, have a drink of water, etc., until I’ve passed such hazards.

As for chatting with passengers, I will occasionally say “just a sec” when approaching a challenging section of road, and then continue the conversation afterwards.

47 posted on 04/21/2006 12:35:52 PM PDT by stillonaroll
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To: stillonaroll

Sure - I do that too... That's prioritizing.


48 posted on 04/21/2006 12:37:26 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: JZelle

Eight out of 10 medical mistakes involve doctors who are distracted by plaintiffs' attorneys.


49 posted on 04/21/2006 12:37:48 PM PDT by Savage Beast ( The Spirit of Flight 93 is the Spirit of America. R.I.P., Todd Beamer.)
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To: JZelle

Yet, I find that companies often insist on publishing employee cell numbers and customers often call them with mostly non-urgent business before they even try a regular line, assuming it's more likely you'll pick up.

I used to have a message on my phone telling people to call my regular line if they wanted to reach me. Juggling and having to pick up multiple VM boxes in the field just adds to the cell phone danger.


50 posted on 04/21/2006 12:37:50 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: HairOfTheDog

I completely agree.

All those people that think they really pay attention all the time when they drive and don't "allow" distractions-- they're dangerous.

Whatever a driver is looking at leaves at least six or eight things that they are not looking at, but should be. The trick is to predict, recognize and prioritize, and always assume that there is something about to happen that can kill you or somebody nearby. Because there is.

If you cannot maintain appropriate control of a vehicle in the face of a few additional distractions like a phone ringing, a child screaming, a low-flying jet or fireworks going off... then you *should not* be driving at all.

It's not the phone that's the problem it's the driver that is paralyzed by have three things to do at once. Sometimes there are three things to do.


51 posted on 04/21/2006 12:46:08 PM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1100 knives and counting!)
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To: Ramius
It's not the phone that's the problem it's the driver that is paralyzed by have three things to do at once. Sometimes there are three things to do.

WELL PUT.

52 posted on 04/21/2006 12:47:32 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: JZelle

SHUTUP AND DRIVE!!!!


53 posted on 04/21/2006 1:43:07 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: HairOfTheDog
And someone on the phone is somehow harder to prioritize?

Yes. It's subconciously easier to temporarily ignore a passenger because you know that they know what's going on. Maybe you don't have that problem, but you're in the minority. There are several studies on this.

54 posted on 04/21/2006 1:45:42 PM PDT by ThinkDifferent (Chloe rocks)
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To: ThinkDifferent

I've never had it be a problem... To me, it's assumed I'm driving first... Pilot training again... On emergency procedures... You pick up the radio and talk ~after~ you do all the other things that need done.

This is a way of training your brain, not something that is impossible for people to master. Pilots do it every day. That some people have trouble with distractions does not mean none of us can handle it. A free country doesn't write the rules for the lowest common denominator.


55 posted on 04/21/2006 1:55:13 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
This is a way of training your brain, not something that is impossible for people to master. Pilots do it every day.

Sure. Like I said, you're in the minority.

That some people have trouble with distractions does not mean none of us can handle it. A free country doesn't write the rules for the lowest common denominator.

Absolutely, and I don't support more laws. I do support making people aware that most of us don't multitask nearly as we think we do.

56 posted on 04/21/2006 2:10:58 PM PDT by ThinkDifferent (Chloe rocks)
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To: JZelle
I'd be interested to see if those figures were based on actual fact, or estimates. Just a couple years ago cell phone use was about number six or seven on the list of top causes for distracted driving accidents, based on the police investigations of the accidents themselves. At the same time political action groups were saying that cell phones were the #1 cause of distracted driving accidents.
57 posted on 04/21/2006 2:58:18 PM PDT by RavenATB (Patton was right...)
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To: ThinkDifferent
There are several studies on this.

There should be a law that any driver that wasn't concentrating specifically on avoiding the accident that was about to happen should go to jail for life without parole.

58 posted on 04/21/2006 7:42:20 PM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1100 knives and counting!)
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To: HairOfTheDog
You know when people get mad at me? When I'm in the left lane and ONLY going 75 (15-20 over the speed limit) and I've left myself enough room in front to react. If the car 10 lengths in front of me slows down, I SLOW DOWN. I don't wait till I'm on his bumper and slam on the brakes. People think if I'm not on the bumper of the car in front of me, I'm not going fast enough. They get mad, pass me on the right, roll their eyes because I'm on the phone, and then park on the guy's bumper in front of me. THEY are the accident waiting to happen, not me.

For better or for worse, that's the normal way of driving today. I've seen cops drive that way. As long as your cruising well above the speed limit, and the lane to your right is otherwise occupied, f-em all. But if you're a truck (semi, tanker, or particularly a fig-leaf covered dump truck spewing paint-chipping debris) or one of those cellphone talkers who decide it's best to play Grand Marshall of the Parade in the left lane, I'll only say that you're lucky I don't have a front-mounted rocket launcher.

59 posted on 04/21/2006 8:02:14 PM PDT by King of Florida (A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a fool trusts either of them.)
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To: rattrap
Do you consider people slamming on the brakes randomly and swerving into the breakdown lane to be a safer proposition?

Additionally, if we ban cellphones in the car, I would also like to see eating, changing the station, and driving with children in the car included in this law. I assume I have your full support in this.
60 posted on 04/21/2006 10:24:28 PM PDT by mysterio
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