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Hispanic evangelical offering GOP a bridge to future
Boston Globe ^ | 3/6/06 | Charlie Savage

Posted on 04/21/2006 5:42:07 AM PDT by Dane

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To: Dane
The Catholic Illegal Immigrants care more about their own life, than they do about an unborn fetus, unless it's born on US soil and becomes an Anchor Baby.

They will vote for the liberal party of entitlements...the Rats.

"The media is just out to sell papers," said Bishop Gerald Walsh of New York on the Saturday before elections. "The Church does not think it's a sin to vote for Kerry. We think people should look at both candidates. You have the issues of war, health care and poverty, as well as abortion. It's not right to pigeonhole one issue." "

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21 posted on 04/21/2006 6:23:32 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Dane
There are two problems with this article. First of all, respect for the rule of law is fundamental to social conservatism. Encouraging ILLEGAL immigration undermines this vital principle. Secondly, a large percentage of LEGAL immigrants do not look kindly on giving a pass to illegals.

I am very pro immigration, but am adamantly opposed to illegal immigration. What signal are we sending to those who played by the rules and came here legally when we give a pass to the illegals? SUCKER!!!!
22 posted on 04/21/2006 6:25:43 AM PDT by rob777 (Personal Responsibility is the Price of Freedom)
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To: Dane
Oh, I hear the sound of kickbacks being threatened...tell your ole lady to clean her own house, or pay a legal wage to have it done.

I encourage those concerned about the invasion to cast an eye on the leadership of these churches--many are coyote conduits and provide the support services to lawbreakers. It isn't just the Lord's work being done.

Check out the comings and goings of these preaches, the meetings with contractors and landlords, the helpful referrals to Western Union, the comings and goings of strange vans with out-of-state plates. Check out the banking and the depositing.

Locals can do something about the invasion by encourage LE to arrest those who drive without license or insurance. See if the Godfather shows up to make bail, or check out who does it.

23 posted on 04/21/2006 6:26:06 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Dane
Oh, and we can "spread the gospel" in Mexico, as well as here.

Forget about that little "guilt trip" argument.

sw

24 posted on 04/21/2006 6:26:39 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Mamzelle
Oh, I hear the sound of kickbacks being threatened...tell your ole lady to clean her own house, or pay a legal wage to have it done

Oh BS, you got caught in your hateful smear about hispanic evangelical churches in your reply #9 and now are trying desperately to change the subject.

25 posted on 04/21/2006 6:28:06 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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Oh, I'm trying to keep the subject going!! Thanks for the help.

A few weeks back there was an article in FR about Catholic churches being conduits for invaders, and I pointed out that it's more likely that evangelical churches would be working that way, since they are independent of a larger bureaucratic institution.

I want the common knowledge in small towns to be investigated!

How do you think this invasion is managed? Though management--who locates the jobs, housing, legal muscle--? Who already has a "storefront" and is ready to deal?

Just watch and be aware, folks. There's serious money changing hands. And be scared of an underground power that is running the local economy.

26 posted on 04/21/2006 6:35:38 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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Keep the subject going? I could post a ton of articles proving how Liberal some of our Catholic Bishops and Cardinals actually are. It's infuriating.

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27 posted on 04/21/2006 6:39:59 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Dane
And also during that time, another border state, Texas, has turned into a reliably red state.

And are you prepared to cite statistics that provide any support for a thesis that Hispanics are behind the Republican success in Texas?

I don't think I will have much trouble supporting the notion that Hispanics are voting Democrat in California.

28 posted on 04/21/2006 6:40:02 AM PDT by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: Mamzelle
Just watch and be aware, folks. There's serious money changing hands. And be scared of an underground power that is running the local economy

Yeah from those evil hispanic Evangelical and Catholic churches.(/sarcasm)

29 posted on 04/21/2006 6:40:03 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane
to spread the Gospel to as many people as possible.

Bearing false witness is how I would characterize his message. That does not sound like spreading the word to me. Recruiting for his business at the expense of the country that hosts his business does not sound like spreading the message either.
30 posted on 04/21/2006 6:42:43 AM PDT by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: Dane

Crossing the border, illegally, is just the start of their law breaking. Some drive without licenses. They work with fraudulent ID's. They do not pay the taxes. ETC


31 posted on 04/21/2006 6:43:48 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Dane
Oh, and by the way--you ought to be the member of a small-town evangelical church which has reached out to hispanics, or overheard the conversations between the native ministers concerned about how powerful the iglesias are becoming in "pull"--the members of the "iglesias" in this town are not allowed to attend any church but the Godfathers--and I didn't make up the term "Godfather." The native preachers discover this when they evangelize. There is intimidation going on.

There are dark rumors of misbehaving iglesia members who kind of "disappear"--the Godfather does keep order and enforce his own kind of peace.

For all those raging and angry about the invasion, at least you can do one thing--keep a curious eye on the habits and activities of your local iglesias.

32 posted on 04/21/2006 6:44:25 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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Well, you'd be hard pressed to convince some people that the Hispanics are voting for the Democrats.

Got a brick to send them?

33 posted on 04/21/2006 6:44:26 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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Oh, and by the way--you ought to be the member of a small-town evangelical church which has reached out to hispanics, or overheard the conversations between the native ministers concerned about how powerful the iglesias are becoming in "pull"--the members of the "iglesias" in this town are not allowed to attend any church but the Godfathers--and I didn't make up the term "Godfather." The native preachers discover this when they evangelize. There is intimidation going on

Still trying to smear hispanic Evangelical churches with your unproven word and innuendo, I see.

34 posted on 04/21/2006 6:50:52 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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And watch and be aware.

Are you afraid to have people observe the activities of the local iglesia? Is this hitting close to home? Did somebody get wifey a maid by calling El Padron?

There are local mangers of this invasion, on their own turf, and they've got cell phones. What better way to manage an influx of strangers who don't speak a language than to serve and obey a Godfather? Who is more likely to be trusted and tolerated in a conservative small town than a preacher?

35 posted on 04/21/2006 6:57:58 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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And watch and be aware.

Are you afraid to have people observe the activities of the local iglesia? Is this hitting close to home? Did somebody get wifey a maid by calling El Padron

Whatever, perform your own little mini-krystallnact surveilance of evangelical hispanic churches if you wish. You're basically the different side of the same coin as barry lynn.

I'll let readers of this thread judge your personal statements of pure conjecture.

36 posted on 04/21/2006 7:05:14 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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He is an amnesty open borders huckster who basically wants to impose the failed culture of Latin America on America. Heard this guy on Gibson's radio show, a real huskster who likes to banty the taboo words of the left around to intimidate people with Political Correctness. If he was something more than a political operative for short term interests he would evangelize points south of the border to help reform a failed bloc of nations.


37 posted on 04/21/2006 7:09:50 AM PDT by junta (It's Jihad stupid! It's the borders stupid! "From the halls of Montezuma...")
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I also encourage people to talk to their own ministers about the newer iglesias, particularly in smaller communities which have seen large growth of aliens in very short time-frames.
38 posted on 04/21/2006 7:12:06 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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You are a smart perceptive person so let me ask you a question, what happens when the taboos of Poltical Correctness are first challenged and then broken?


39 posted on 04/21/2006 7:14:27 AM PDT by junta (It's Jihad stupid! It's the borders stupid! "From the halls of Montezuma...")
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You are a smart perceptive person so let me ask you a question, what happens when the taboos of Poltical Correctness are first challenged and then broken?

Looks like Rev. Rodriguez has already broken the taboos of modern PCism with his attending a rally against homosexual marriage, how more anti-PC can you get in modern America.

40 posted on 04/21/2006 7:18:04 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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