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Hu calls Bill Gates "a friend of China"
Associated Press (Excerpts) ^ | Allison Linn

Posted on 04/18/2006 11:10:11 PM PDT by HAL9000

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Later [Hu] said to Gates: "I admire what you have achieved at Microsoft," Hu said. "Because you, Mr. Bill Gates, are a friend of China, I'm a friend of Microsoft," he said. "Also, I am dealing with the operating system produced by Microsoft every day," he added, amid laughter.

"I certainly look forward to the extension of your cooperation with China," Hu said. Hu also said he would certainly welcome a further increase in Microsoft's investment in China.

"I'd also like to take this opportunity to assure you, Bill Gates, that we will certainly our words in protecting intellectual property rights," Hu said. Gates responded: "Thank you, it's a fantastic relationship. And if you ever need advice on how to use Wkindows, I'll be glad to help."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: barfalert; billgates; chicoms; china; gates; hu; hujintao; huvisit; jintao; lowqualitycrap; microsoft; microsoftchina; sellingoutamerica
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There's a difference in selling to China and selling out to China. Bill Gates does the latter. He is a bootlicking toady for the Chicoms.
1 posted on 04/18/2006 11:10:14 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000

Who is Hu?


2 posted on 04/18/2006 11:12:52 PM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: dfwgator

Hu Jintao is the Communist dictator of China.


3 posted on 04/18/2006 11:14:09 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: HAL9000

"And if you ever need advice on how to use Wkindows, I'll be glad to help."

There goes Bill Gates's time. "Hey Bill, how about offering that to the pukes you sold your stuff to?"


4 posted on 04/18/2006 11:19:59 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (Springtime for Iran.)
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To: HAL9000

I wonder if he is going to get an award from Hu.

It would kinda be like when Ford got Germany's highest decoration for foreigners, the Grand Cross of the German Eagle, in July 1938.


5 posted on 04/18/2006 11:23:26 PM PDT by Marius3188 (Happy Resurrection Weekend)
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To: HAL9000

"I certainly look forward to the extension of your cooperation with China," Hu said.

Hmmmmmmm. Wonder what it was that Bill Gates cooperated about.


6 posted on 04/18/2006 11:38:32 PM PDT by Sun (Evo scientists don't want to lose their perks, so they insist evo is a fact.)
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To: HAL9000

Gates is in a no win situation, either lower the cost of the OS to China or they will pirate it. At least this way he gets something, and also keeps marketshare.


7 posted on 04/18/2006 11:50:00 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: dfwgator

Hu's On First


8 posted on 04/18/2006 11:54:15 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Sun
Hmmmmmmm. Wonder what it was that Bill Gates cooperated about.

My thought exactly. Perhaps a little help with China's little problem with the Internet?

9 posted on 04/18/2006 11:56:20 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: HAL9000
President Hu should call every American that shops at WalMart
'a friend of China' ......
10 posted on 04/19/2006 12:04:55 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: HAL9000

Bill Gates, Bill Clinton. Do the Chinese have a thing for Bills?


11 posted on 04/19/2006 12:10:05 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: All

Let us not forget where microsoft manufactures its xboxes.
How many jobs Gates could have created in the US if he made them here??? He is beholden to the yellow devils.


12 posted on 04/19/2006 12:22:48 AM PDT by roughman ( roughmen stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm (orwell))
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To: roughman
How many jobs Gates could have created in the US if he made them here??? He is beholden to the yellow devils.

You just reminded me of a time when I almost threw my remote at the TV set a few months ago.

It was on TV when Bill Gates was asked that question and he gave an answer to the effect of that if he made them in America, it would cost alot more and fewer americans would enjoy it, so by producing them overseas, he is giving more americans the chance to have his products.

He didn't answer the follow up question about how much more expensive they would have been if made in the US or what he would have had to charge.

13 posted on 04/19/2006 12:48:21 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Marius3188
It would kinda be like when Ford got Germany's highest decoration for foreigners, the Grand Cross of the German Eagle, in July 1938.

At least Ford had the gift of God to later renounce it along with his vicious anti-semestism.

14 posted on 04/19/2006 12:49:52 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: HAL9000

Hey, let's cut the guy some slack; he's only got more money than the combined Gross National Products of Malaysia, the Philippines, Belgium, the Netherlands, Monaco, and Paraguay rolled into one. He probably figures he'll need a little extra for his retirement.


15 posted on 04/19/2006 12:53:41 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Sonny M

The vast majority of Gates' charity goes abroad, esp. India, where he and his wife just visited and contributed millions. These elitist assholes (corporate, academia, msm etc)are globalists and forget where they "made it". Good old f#$K the USA attitude.


16 posted on 04/19/2006 1:03:01 AM PDT by roughman ( roughmen stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm (orwell))
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To: roughman

The vast majority of Gates' charity goes abroad, esp. India, where he and his wife just visited and contributed millions. These elitist assholes (corporate, academia, msm etc)are globalists and forget where they "made it". Good old f#$K the USA attitude.


This guy can do nothing right with people. He was criticized a few years ago for not donating enough and now that his is he is criticized anyway. We are lucky to have him. What would computers be like without him. I for one appreciate what he does even if I don't agree with everything. People are just plain nasty to the guy.


17 posted on 04/19/2006 1:14:03 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

I respect your opinion, but do not forget that Gates monoplized the Windows operating system and crushed any competition resulting in anti-trust lawsuits.


18 posted on 04/19/2006 1:24:37 AM PDT by roughman ( roughmen stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm (orwell))
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To: HAL9000
Anyone trading with China is no friend of the Chinese people.

The big deceit continues.

Those who run China are unelected, brutal, murdering dictators.

There is no evidence trading with China is moving the Chinese people any closer to the freedom to talk and act with the liberty they have so long been denied.

In fact, people like Bill Gates are helping the murderers put more controls on the freedoms of the Chinese people.

Hell must have a special reserved section for Americans reaping profits from Chinese tyranny.

American businessmen have become partners with Satan in the brutal Chinese tyranny they encourage to continue.

Gates, you hypocrite. You are one of the richest men on Earth and you want to become richer on the backs of a long-suffering and imprisoned people.

Gates and his fellow businessmen are a disgrace to freedom and the proud history of liberty in America. They covet all possible liberty for themselves while offering none to the brutalized and enslaved people of China who are helplessly imprisoned with generous American financing.

Gates should see his Redmond, Washington, Microsoft program developers arrested and thrown in prison for their free thinking. Then, he'd have a taste of what he is encouraging in China.

His main software product should be called "Windows of Tyranny," or "Barred Windows."

19 posted on 04/19/2006 1:38:40 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: napscoordinator
What would computers be like without him.

Bill Gates is the "chief software architect" at Microsoft - and he has been a disaster in that role. Modern computers would be better and cheaper if Bill Gates never existed.

It's good that Microsoft has made a lot of people wealthy, but their products are low quality crap. Like network television, Windows is a vast wasteland.

20 posted on 04/19/2006 1:54:32 AM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: HAL9000

Bill Gates is the "chief software architect" at Microsoft - and he has been a disaster in that role. Modern computers would be better and cheaper if Bill Gates never existed.

I never really thought the other side of the coin could be better computers. That is a good point. The money part would be nice too, but having even better computers is always welcomed. Thanks!


21 posted on 04/19/2006 1:57:13 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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the Golden Eagle has landed..


22 posted on 04/19/2006 2:10:56 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: napscoordinator
What would computers be like without him.

Gosh I just don't know..........


23 posted on 04/19/2006 3:20:13 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: Echo Talon

Unless he lowers the cost to zero, it is going to be pirated by them.


24 posted on 04/19/2006 3:33:07 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: mc5cents

LOL!

I just KNEW if I scrolled down...I would find this remark! Nice implementation!


25 posted on 04/19/2006 3:36:53 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: HAL9000

"Modern computers would be better and cheaper if Bill Gates never existed."

Better? Probably. Cheaper? No way.


26 posted on 04/19/2006 4:56:18 AM PDT by FostersExport
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To: taxesareforever
Bill Gates, Bill Clinton. Do the Chinese have a thing for Bills?

Yep, American dollar bills ($).

27 posted on 04/19/2006 5:00:03 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: rdb3; chance33_98; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Bush2000; PenguinWry; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; ...

28 posted on 04/19/2006 5:54:39 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: napscoordinator
What would computers be like without him.

Just as good if not better than they are now...

29 posted on 04/19/2006 6:41:21 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: Cementjungle
Perhaps a little help with China's little problem with the Internet?

Cisco already stepped in for that, but maybe Bill will help tighten up a few loopholes.

I'd expect to see Linux going down in China. Linux is about as against their agenda as you can get -- an open operating system that the government can't control, that can be modified to circumvent things the government does, that's impossible to hide back doors in. Windows (or any proprietary OS) makes more sense to the Chicom rulers if they're friendly with the supplier.

30 posted on 04/19/2006 6:50:58 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
I'd expect to see Linux going down in China. Linux is about as against their agenda as you can get -- an open operating system that the government can't control, that can be modified to circumvent things the government does, that's impossible to hide back doors in.

Ditto that

31 posted on 04/19/2006 6:52:10 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: napscoordinator
What would computers be like without him.

More stable and user friendly for one.

32 posted on 04/19/2006 6:52:52 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: napscoordinator
He has played serious hardball in building MS into what it is, and in doing so has made some people angry. I think he'd be one of the most intersting people in the world to talk to if he would answer questions honestly and did not have to worry about what he said being in the news.

PS - it is rumored that much of his charity money goes to "population control," which puts him at odds with a pro-life agenda.

People are just plain nasty to the guy.

33 posted on 04/19/2006 6:57:10 AM PDT by Salo
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
HU'S ON FIRST

(We take you now to the Oval Office.)

George Bush: Condi ! Nice to see you. What's happening ?

Condi: Sir, I have the report here about the new leader of China.

George: Great. Lay it on me.

Condi: Hu is the new leader of China.

George: That's what I want to know.

Condi: That's what I'm telling you.

George: That's what I'm asking you. Who is the new leader of China ?

Condi: Yes.

George: I mean the fellow's name.

Condi: Hu.

George: The guy in China.

Condi: Hu.

George: The new leader of China.

Condi: Hu.

George: The Chinaman !

Condi: Hu is leading China.

George: Now whaddya' asking me for ?

Condi: I'm telling you - Hu is leading China.

George: Well, I'm asking you. Who is leading China ?

Condi: That's the man's name.

George: That's who's name ?

Condi: Yes.

George: Will you or will you not tell me the name of the new leader of China ?

Condi: Yes, sir.

George: Yassir ? Yassir Arafat is in China ? I thought he was in the Middle East.

Condi: That's correct.

George: Then who is in China ?

Condi: Yes, sir.

George: Yassir is in China?

Condi: No, sir.

George: Then who is ?

Condi: Yes, sir.

George: Yassir ?

Condi: No, sir.

George: Look, Condi. I need to know the name of the new leader of China. Get me the Secretary General of the U.N. on the phone.

Condi: Kofi ?

George: No, thanks.

Condi: You want Kofi ?

George: No.

Condi: You don't want Kofi.

George: No. But now that you mention it, I could use a glass of milk. And then get me the U.N.

Condi: Yes, sir.

George: Not Yassir! The guy at the U.N.

Condi: Kofi ?

George: Milk! Will you please make the call ?

Condi: And call who ?

George: Who is the guy at the U.N ?

Condi: Hu is the guy in China.

George: Will you stay out of China ?!

Condi: Yes, sir.

George: And stay out of the Middle East! Just get me the guy at the U.N.

Condi: Kofi.

George: All right! With cream and two sugars. Now get on the phone.

(Condi picks up the phone.)

Condi: Rice, here.

George: Rice ? Good idea. And a couple of egg rolls, too!

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34 posted on 04/19/2006 7:51:42 AM PDT by zeugma (Anybody who says XP is more secure than OS X or Linux has been licking toads.)
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To: D-fendr
the Golden Eagle has landed..

More like, our resident troll is MIA on this thread. Wonder why? 

35 posted on 04/19/2006 7:55:23 AM PDT by zeugma (Anybody who says XP is more secure than OS X or Linux has been licking toads.)
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To: zeugma; Golden Eagle
More like, our resident troll is MIA on this thread. Wonder why?

Could it have been my smackdown on the thread announcing the visit? Nah, we've smacked down his lies and distortions much worse in the past, and he kept coming.

36 posted on 04/19/2006 8:37:01 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: zeugma

What, you think I'm happy about this? I think it sucks, but Bill Gates is late to the China party, companies like IBM were kissing up to them long ago.

"Gerstner and Jiang 'Old Friends' Kiss in New York - 11/02/97"

http://www.truthinmedia.org/TruthinMedia/Bulletins/tim98-1-5.html


NEW YORK - "Birds of a feather flock together," goes an old saw. They do. Even in the maze of Manhattan skyscrapers where only the stupid birds fly.

Lou Gerstner, IBM's chairman, who once slept in Mao Zedong's bed in Shanghai, warmly embraced Jiang Zemin, Mao's protégé, outside the IBM Tower on Madison Avenue in New York. Jiang's visit to IBM was his first stop after breakfasting with George Bush and opening the trading at the New York Stock Exchange on Oct. 31.

Gerstner warmly greeted the Chinese communist with Tiananmen Square blood on his hands as an old friend. "Lao pengyou, ni hao" ("Old friend, how are you?"), Gerstner said in heavily-accented Chinese, to the satisfied chuckles all around. A REUTER's photo in WASHINGTON POST (Nov. 1) showed Jiang and Gerstner laughing heartily underneath a big IBM logo. (Big Blue's next ad?).


37 posted on 04/19/2006 8:43:42 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

Hellooooo? Tweety Bird, where arrrrre you???


38 posted on 04/19/2006 8:43:53 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: antiRepublicrat
Could it have been my smackdown on the thread announcing the visit? Nah, we've smacked down his lies and distortions much worse in the past, and he kept coming.

Kind of like one of those punching-bag clowns that pops right back up after you hit it.

39 posted on 04/19/2006 8:46:27 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: antiRepublicrat

You mean when you tried to deny this? I thought you actually said it was accurate:

Linux is in fact the standard software for Chicomm government computers is it not? The latest word is 80 percent of their government servers use it, due to mandates by the government.

http://news.com.com/The+business+of+Linux+in+China/2008-7344_3-6060122.html


40 posted on 04/19/2006 8:47:54 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: zeugma
My guess is he knows full well he's going to suffer massive pwnag3 on this thread...;)
41 posted on 04/19/2006 8:48:03 AM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (This Space For Rent. Call 555-1212 for more info.)
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This is nice Bill "BSOD" Gates & COMMIES!


42 posted on 04/19/2006 8:53:58 AM PDT by b2stealth
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To: Sonny M
He didn't answer the follow up question about how much more expensive they would have been if made in the US or what he would have had to charge.

Did he happen to explain that the first package of, say Windows 2008, that goes out the door, costs him $10 mill, the second one costs him 15 cents, and the millionth one costs him, guess what, 15 cents!

43 posted on 04/19/2006 8:54:26 AM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: roughman
The vast majority of Gates' charity goes abroad, esp. India, where he and his wife just visited and contributed millions. These elitist assholes (corporate, academia, msm etc)are globalists and forget where they "made it". Good old f#$K the USA attitude.

I can't totally complain about that, he gave NYC a fortune for schools, so on that I'd cut him slack.

44 posted on 04/19/2006 8:59:25 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Revolting cat!
Did he happen to explain that the first package of, say Windows 2008, that goes out the door, costs him $10 mill, the second one costs him 15 cents, and the millionth one costs him, guess what, 15 cents!

Not that I recall, ironically, this morning I got some kind of NY claims form to collect money from my states lawsuit against Gates.

Go Figure.

45 posted on 04/19/2006 9:00:51 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Sun

Blocking 'forbidden' words on MSN accounts in China.

Partnering with Chinese communist elite and making them millionaires.

Probably giving China the same favors he does our own government, back door access to computers running his OS.


46 posted on 04/19/2006 9:19:11 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: dfwgator

One of the worlds top ten worst dictators.


47 posted on 04/19/2006 9:19:41 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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What, you think I'm happy about this?

It's pretty obvious, after reading all the sorts of garbage posted on Linux threads. After all, as long as MS is making $$$$$ in Red China, to heck with anything else

I think it sucks,

Bull. You've even said countless times over the last umpteenth months that Linux in other nations' hands is evil because it's free.

But continue, O master troll...

"Gerstner and Jiang 'Old Friends' Kiss in New York - 11/02/97" ...

What your article fails to mention is that IBM has done business in China (and other locales around the world) since the early 1900's--since before Mao; and that they (IBM) currently have engineers and consultants in over 170 countries.

In fact, IBM is one of only a handful of American companies that can continuously trace their history back into the 19th century--(the other one I can think of offhand being Union Pacific).

48 posted on 04/19/2006 10:03:38 AM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (This Space For Rent. Call 555-1212 for more info.)
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To: rzeznikj at stout
You've even said countless times over the last umpteenth months that Linux in other nations' hands is evil because it's free.

Allowing everyone in the world free copies of U.S. technology IS obviously foolish. That's why the Chinese are standardizing their government by edict on these free copies of Linux, not Microsoft, as my link above shows. Gates is at least trying to earn some dollars when U.S. software goes overseas, yet you seem to prefer giving the stuff away to Hu's communist government for free. At least you've never complained the countless times I've pointed out to you the Chinese take a free copy of Red Hat Linux, from North Carolina, and rename it "Red Flag" in China. For some reason that's just fine to you "open sourcers".

49 posted on 04/19/2006 10:15:29 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: zeugma

Clever.


50 posted on 04/19/2006 10:17:47 AM PDT by KittyKares
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