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Won’t Someone Stop This Tragedy?
City Journal ^ | 18 April 2006 | Sol Stern

Posted on 04/18/2006 1:01:27 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: misterrob
Consider cost of living up there and it's really not that much money for someone at the top of the pay scale.

$15,000 per pupil is about the cost of tuition for medical school two decades ago.

21 posted on 04/18/2006 1:40:14 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

They can lease the schools to the muzzles.



22 posted on 04/18/2006 1:42:31 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Steve_Seattle
Since when is a reason necessary for a class action lawsuit required in New York (the land of the Schuster lawyers).

As it would happen the failure of the public schools to teach under privileged children while the state and the city makes it all the harder for Catholic schools to operate. Sure I think they have as good a case as smokers do against tobacco companies.
23 posted on 04/18/2006 1:44:41 PM PDT by iluvlucy (swim the Tiber, the water is fine)
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To: catholicfreeper; stopem
PLease notice. Cardinal Mahoney is in LA. This article is about New York. That is Cardinal Egan's jurisdiction. Regardless, the Catholic school system has reached out for years to the poor to help in education. I really don't see why this tragedy has to be turn into a thread on illegal immigration. Isn't there enough of those threads on here anyway.

It's all they think 24/7. Heck they would even blame a hangnail on an illegal.

BTW, has anybody noticed that no Mexican flags were raised at parochial schools, only liberal infested public ones.

24 posted on 04/18/2006 1:50:02 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: John Jorsett

When he's not busing attacking the NRA, he still keeps in practise attacking religion.

What a lib.


25 posted on 04/18/2006 1:58:12 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: neverdem

"Many of the predominantly minority children in those closed schools will now have to attend failing public schools."

aka Dumbing Down of Americans


26 posted on 04/18/2006 2:15:16 PM PDT by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: Alberta's Child
I see the closure of these schools as little more than a formal acknowledgement that the Catholic Church simply doesn't have a reason to be in these neighborhoods right now.

Most Catholic schools do indeed perform better than public schools academically, but the "social studies" curriculum is indistinguishable from public schools. If anyone is truly interested in providing a Catholic education for their children, homeschooling is usually the only way to be sure.

27 posted on 04/18/2006 2:39:19 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Ignore the drive-by media. Build the fence. Sí, Se Puede!)
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To: NYer; Coleus

Is this arelevant topic for your ping list? If so, ping away!


28 posted on 04/18/2006 2:41:25 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Bob Taft for Impeachment)
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To: neverdem

The teacher salary isn't that high relative to COL. And, $15K per pupil is way out of whack if you have 25 kids in a classroom. $375K annual cost for that room but the most senior of teachers is $93K?

You have to look at the administrator cost to get a sense of where the waste is.


29 posted on 04/18/2006 3:29:45 PM PDT by misterrob (Teach a Liberal to think for himself and he'll vote Conservative for the rest of his life.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
"Why doesn't San Francisco have a homosexual high school?"

You have to be kidding right? This is a set up isn't it? The real question is; Why doesn't SF have a heterosexual high school?
30 posted on 04/18/2006 3:34:30 PM PDT by iluvlucy (swim the Tiber, the water is fine)
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To: neverdem; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; ...


31 posted on 04/18/2006 3:40:43 PM PDT by Coleus (RU-486 Kills babies & mothers, Bush can stop this as Clinton allowed it through executive order)
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To: Coleus; RepubMommy

Hey Repubmommy,

Looks like the same kind of problem we're facing in NJ.


32 posted on 04/18/2006 3:52:42 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: neverdem
The city’s Department of Education budget now tops $17 billion, or about $15,000 per pupil.

That is obscene. That would pay for a year of high school (lower grades are cheaper) at the most expensive private school in the greater Charlotte area.

Are New York's public school students getting an education comparable to Charlotte Latin School? I don't think so!

33 posted on 04/18/2006 4:14:21 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Although You're invisible, I trust the Unseen.")
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To: neverdem; Clemenza; firebrand; Coleus; Do not dub me shapka broham
This article appears to me to be full of it. At the same time that catholic schools are closing there is an upswing in the number of Madrassas, Yeshivas and other types of relgious schools. A new Yeshiva will be opening a block from where I live next september. And a couple of new muslim schools have opened in the area in the last year or so. The fact is that the catholic population of the city is dwindling (save for illegal mexicans). Where there was once no serious alternative to catholic private schools. other denominations are now opening up theirs. Why send you kid to catholic school if you're a muslim when you can send him to a saudi financed madrassa?



34 posted on 04/18/2006 4:41:46 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Cacique
Why send your kid to Catholic school if you're a Muslim, when you can send him to a Saudi financed madrassa?

So he can learn to read and write the English language, do math, and get good SAT scores.

35 posted on 04/18/2006 4:46:50 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Although You're invisible, I trust the Unseen.")
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To: Tax-chick
So he can learn to read and write the English language, do math, and get good SAT scores.

I can assure that Muslie parents who are devout could not give a hoot whether he could know English or do math or get good SAT scores. The current drop of colonists are more interested in preserving their culture and ways of life while they are partaking the benefits of a capitalist society.



36 posted on 04/18/2006 5:04:17 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Cacique

Oh, I know ... but that's why a Moslem parent who wanted his children to do well would use a Catholic school!


37 posted on 04/18/2006 5:05:48 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Although You're invisible, I trust the Unseen.")
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To: Cacique
This article appears to me to be full of it.

As far as $15,000 per pupil per year, I have no doubt that it's true. It was $10,000 in NYC in the late 1990s.

38 posted on 04/18/2006 5:06:14 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Alberta's Child
This scene is being repeated in older urban areas all over the country.

To the delight of the Catholic bashers who justify their bigotry by feigning concern for other issues.

But bottom line is this:

Quite the contrary. Catholic schools still deliver a far bigger bang for the education buck than the public schools.

39 posted on 04/18/2006 8:02:44 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: RichInOC

LOL!


40 posted on 04/18/2006 8:06:52 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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