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Gyanendra’s time is up (the king is the main problem in Nepal)
The Indian Express ^ | Friday, April 14, 2006 at 0000 hrs | C Raja Mohan

Posted on 04/13/2006 10:23:12 PM PDT by Gengis Khan

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One of the best articles on the current crisis in Nepal.
1 posted on 04/13/2006 10:23:13 PM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: minus_273; CarrotAndStick; injin; Tailgunner Joe; sagar; angkor

Ping!


2 posted on 04/13/2006 10:24:26 PM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: Gengis Khan
"If India does not act immediately"
what India should be doing 'immediately' , and should have been doing all along , is everything in it's power to interrupt
and disrupt the Nepalese Maoist activities across and through it's own borders. They need to stamp out , in no uncertain terms, their own Naxal/Maoist groups throughout the tribal regions and within Indian Parliament.
India is trying it's best to go down this river with a foot in two different boats . That will never work.
The Nepalese Maoists would dry up within a year if they had zero ingress and egress via India.
India needs to totally stop the Nepalese Maoist -Tamil Tiger training link and arms pipeline ,that they either facilitate or wink and nod at.
3 posted on 04/13/2006 10:32:28 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse

India is/has been fighting Maoists using the following means:
1. Land/labour reforms
2. Police action and better law enforcement machinery
3. Economic development
4. better governance (self governance)

And with these India has been largely successful in handling the Maoists rebellion. Although their hasn't been much economic development in places affected with Maoists rebellion, still the support base for the Maoists has been diminishing. In the seventies large areas of Bihar, West Bengal, Madhya Pradesh, Orissa and Andhra Pradesh were almost completely run by the Naxals.

Today although the terror attacks from the Maoists have increased in number, there own numbers have dwindled considerably.

In Nepal's case most of means adopted by India are missing. That the King has chosen a Tianmen square like crack down to wipe out every opposition is the cause for Nepal's eminent doom. He is preparing Nepal for a blood bath that has now gone way past just the issue of Maoist violence.

Border policing (even though necessary) is hardly a solution. It is humanly impossible to man every inch of the several hundreds of kilometers of mountaneous Indo-Nepal-Bhutan border to prevent ingress and egress. Nepal has to find a political solution to their problem, it is their creation.


4 posted on 04/13/2006 10:58:23 PM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: LeoWindhorse

Nobody supports the Maoists: not India, not China, not the US. The Maoists would obviously be terrible for Nepal, but the only reason they have support at all from the people (and, amazingly, increasing support) is because the government and the king are so amazingly godawful. Gyanendra is the Nepalese Robert Mugabe -- anyone at all would be a better ruler.


5 posted on 04/13/2006 11:22:44 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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"Gyanendra is the Nepalese Robert Mugabe -- anyone at all would be a better ruler."

So, the Maoists would be better rules?


6 posted on 04/14/2006 1:11:35 AM PDT by sagar
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To: Gengis Khan

"India is/has been fighting Maoists using the following means:
1. Land/labour reforms
2. Police action and better law enforcement machinery
3. Economic development
4. better governance (self governance) "

Yeah, and what a great job India is doing to stop Maoism. /sarcasm

That feel good list isn't working at all. In fact, Maoists(within India and in Nepal) are getting stronger. Thanks to the Indian Marxists who are in power, and partly to the lax attitude of the shielded journalists from Indian Marxpress.


7 posted on 04/14/2006 1:26:00 AM PDT by sagar
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So, the Maoists would be better rules?

No, but the Maoists aren't going to rule. The overwhelming majority of Nepalese oppose both Gyanendra and the Maoists. Let the democratic opposition take over and let them fight the Maoists.

8 posted on 04/14/2006 8:25:25 AM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: sagar
Just because the Maoists rule would be bad enough is no reason why the people of Nepal should endure the reign of terror and genocide unleashed by a deranged King. Honestly I have no idea which is worst, a Maoist genocide or a genocide committed by a Pol pot like King. I don't see the logic behind carrying out a genocide (by the King) to prevent another genocide (by the Maoists). Nepal deserves neither.
9 posted on 04/14/2006 9:37:01 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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"Yeah, and what a great job India is doing to stop Maoism."

No we haven't done a great job but still by and large we were successful in containing the Maoists. I am not saying we have eliminated them. Rather far from it the Maoists threat has been growing in some states. Especially those states that haven't fully implemented or neglected the steps I mentioned. But by and large we were successful is the reason why were aren't overrun by the Maoists. I cannot say the same about Nepal.

Right or wrong we propose to go ahead with those set of steps (I mentioned) to tackle the Maoists threat. A true democracy has to take along all sections of the society and has to accommodate all kinds of view points even those that you don't agree with be it Marxism, Communism, Maoism or Socialism.

The Marxism-Communism bogeyman is the favorite alibi for dictators searching for an excuse to abolish democracy and grab absolute power. The same alibi used by Islamic dictators on the fore front of the war against Communism (like our neighbor Pakistan). That kind of alibi has less takers in today's world.
10 posted on 04/14/2006 9:59:25 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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"...no reason why the people of Nepal should endure the reign of terror and genocide unleashed by a deranged King. ... genocide committed by a Pol pot like King. I don't see the logic behind carrying out a genocide (by the King) ..."

You throw around the word "genocide" around pretty liberally. Any basis for that?

11 posted on 04/14/2006 10:22:44 AM PDT by sagar
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The basis lies in the King's Tianmen square style terror that he has unleashed. Pick up the newspaper and read about the situation in Nepal and you will know the basis.


12 posted on 04/14/2006 10:42:31 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: All

It's good to be the King..


13 posted on 04/14/2006 10:44:02 AM PDT by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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To: Gengis Khan
"The basis lies in the King's Tianmen square style terror that he has unleashed. Pick up the newspaper and read about the situation in Nepal and you will know the basis"

Uh, what genocide? And what newspaper you speak of?
14 posted on 04/14/2006 10:50:14 AM PDT by sagar
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To: Alter Kaker; sagar
the Maoists aren't going to rule.

If the king falls the maoists WILL rule. They are already the only authority in most of Nepal, only Katmandu is left to fall

Let the democratic opposition take over and let them fight the Maoists.

HAHA! What a ludicrous joke! Even if the maoists and the "democratic" parties weren't on the same side, which they are, nobody even imagines that the democrats could beat the maoists. They just fantasize that the terrorists, having achieved one of their main goals and consolidated their power will somehow transform into peaceful democratic citizens. Wait and see how that moronic plan works with HAMAS and then get back to me. You can test your terrorist appeasement on your own nation first.

15 posted on 04/14/2006 12:35:50 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Gengis Khan
India needs to clean up its own backyard and stop helping terrorists murder India's neighbors.

Singh warns of Maoist threat to India - April 14 2006 - “The challenge of internal security is our biggest national security challenge... There can be no political compromise with terror. No inch conceded. No compassion shown.”

Nepal Naxals worry CMs - April 14, 2006 - Admitting that Naxals from Nepal posed a serious threat, the government agreed to revamp the deployment of paramilitary forces along the border. The ministry, which till now had been hinting at 'ideological links' between CPI (Maoist) and CPN (Maoist) cadres, admitted the two outfits provided training, arms and finances to each other.

16 posted on 04/14/2006 12:44:32 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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When Chinese State Councillor Tang Jiaxuan was in Nepal in March, he found time to interact with opposition political leaders.

Well isn't that special.

17 posted on 04/14/2006 12:48:15 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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India must be prepared for a republican Nepal.

You mean the "People's Republic of Nepal."

18 posted on 04/14/2006 12:50:47 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Gengis Khan

Are you suggesting that India should move to depose the King, if he doesn't restore democracy?


19 posted on 04/14/2006 12:59:07 PM PDT by colorado tanker (We need more "chicken-bleep Democrats" in the Senate!)
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To: Gengis Khan
A true democracy has to take along all sections of the society and has to accommodate all kinds of view points even those that you don't agree with be it Marxism, Communism, Maoism or Socialism.

Bwhahahahaha!

20 posted on 04/14/2006 2:43:26 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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