Posted on 04/09/2006 5:16:52 PM PDT by wagglebee
Of course it is.
The OTHER dancer, if you will, lied to the police 3 times.
The DA through a spokesman admitted the 2nd dancer was the woman in the background on the 2nd 911 call at Kroger after he contended for days on TV that Neither Dancer made either call, of that they were certain. They took the word of these two women and they just lied their asses off.
The OTHER dancer lied about:
1) Didn't make first call
2) Wasn't at Kroger
3) She picked up the woman walking near Kroger in see-through underwear only
When police saw things weren't adding up, the questioned the OTHER Dancer, Kim, and under pressure she admitted 2 and 3 were lies. I think the DA is finding out the hard way she lied about number 1 too. She's gone underground and hasn't been seen in like 3 days, and she's not answering her phone.
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"People inside the house have stated she was banging on the door, attempting to regain entry," Thomas said.
The woman told police she was pulled into a bathroom and assaulted after coming back into the house. But Thomas said the woman locked herself in the bathroom, where police later found her purse, cell phone, and several artificial fingernails she claimed to have lost during a struggle with her attackers.
Perhaps what happened consistent with the defense version is, earlier the woman had locked herself in the bathroom, and when she finally emerged she left her makeup purse containing her cellphone and some money in the bathroom. (Also, one of her shoes was lost somewhere in the house.) (If the fingernails were the ultracheap Lee press-on nail type, she could have knocked them off falling down drunk in the bathroom by herself)
When she finally emerged, the two strippers decided to bolt the party and ran out front to Kim's car.
Then (as the neighbor Bissey says he overheard) the one stripper realized she had left her things inside and said, "I need to go back in to get my shoes."
However, the students locked the door and wouldn't let the unattractive, overweight, nasty ho back in the house.
The ho was so intoxicated, that after banging on the door for awhile she falls down and lies on the ground for some period of time. Eventually, she rouses herself and goes back out front and gets into the car with the other waiting stripper Kim. The accuser stripper then tells Kim that they wouldn't let her back in the house to get her stuff. The women then call 911 and falsely claim they were just passing by the house when strangers yelled the n-word at them. Kim drives away. Kim eventually pulls into an all-night Kroger and tries to dump the drunk stripper onto the security guard.
Yup - And that new dingbat bimbo on FNC has been judging them guilty and sentencing them to life without parole from her first feminazi story on the hooker and the Duke lacrosse team.
She is the worst TV creep I have ever seen - Kimberly Gilfoyle - apparently she was on Court TV.
I am surprised she was not disbarred when she was practicing her imitation of the law.
Few people have ever given me that reaction - the instant urge to punch her hard and repeatedly in her face.
She quickly condemned them and constantly puts words into her guests and tries to get them to agree with her - and I have seen several shut her down when she does.
I see no reason why this media shyster should be immune from huge civil lawsuits for her libelous statements and agenda of fixing the jury pool.
Whether these students are guilty or not is up to the courts and a jury.
I would not be surprised if Gilfoyle ends up badly and tragically one day.
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Her initial motivation was $400. I don't know what went on after that but she didn't show up because she likes to party with frat boys. Money was always the objective.
My working theory is that she heard some racial comments and initially stopped dancing and left because of it. Did she go back and stage a rape to get back at the folks who said crude things to her or was she actually assaulted? I'm still open to either possibility being true.
If she did plan to stage a rape, I'm not sure why she'd feel it was prudent to leave her purse and her cell behind. Either one could give up compromising information about her. If she was already messed up, maybe that explains her poor thinking but it might also make her less likely to come up with such a plan to start with. That's where I really have trouble connecting the dots of the students' story.
BTTT
It took over thirty hours for her to come up with a story (reported on FR). That right there sends my BS meter into the red.
I think you are right. However, they did shout a racial comment, the neighbor witnessed it. They were drunk and that had high hopes for this show and the woman came and hardly moved and then tried to leave with $800.00
And they just might have (left with $800.00)
I caught this.. People think that the money was found in the bathroom because the DA said so. Well, if you look at the second search warrant (with the unusual E-mail), there's information that they found in a bedroom (not in the bathroom), $160.00 in twenty dollar bills. In the search warrant after the unusal e-mail, the DA tells them to look for $240.00 and they find $40.00 bucks in the guys room.
So, the DA is playing this game. He said the boys weren't cooperating and he said it over and over in the Press. When a local reporter gave him follow up questions and said the Defense attorney A said his client offered to give DNA and take a lie detector test and Defense attorney B said his clients gave interviews and voluntarily offered to DNA tests - The DA said well they are all saying that no sexual assault took place inside that house, so from the State's point of view they are not cooperating in that they are not being truthful with us. HEY, that's not what the MSM reported over and over.
So, the DA finding $160.00 in twenties in a boy's room led the media to believe the $400.00 was found as stated on the search warrant. He's saying $160.00 in twenties is consistent with the woman's story. See, he has been very misleading. Everything he says must be parsed. Remind you of anyone (the meaning of IS).
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Really? What kind of payoff do women typically get after falsely accusing college students of rape?
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Gee, we all know Anita Hill got nothing from her "testimony" against Clarence Thomas.
Just a couple of book deals, unsold movie, $75,000 speaking fees, 7 bedroom house in Santa Monica.
Her initial motivation was $400 plus tips.
Reliable source tell me that strippers who work parties usually make far more then the showup fee in tips. (I'm talking about strippers, hookers would make even more.) Something cut the show short. Being asked to do sick things with a broom stick might have made her not want the tip money badly enough to stay. The guys would have want'ed something for their $400. Racial slurs could well have been used, stuff could have been left behind. That could easily have pissed both strippers off to the point they decide to fix whitey.
Contrast this to the way Kobe Bryant's accuser was villified in the media...the racial double standard is appalling. If this was a black basketball team and the accuser was a white "exotic dancer" then the media would be dragging the poor white trash girl through the dirt and begging the public to withhold judgement. There would be no stupid little white coeds saying things like "I can't believe I go to this school", etc. The DA would not be saying "I don't care what the DNA results say...I'm still going to prosecute."
I saw that
Two (.........) children is her resume enhancer to those three feminazis on FNC!
Kimberly Gilfoyle - now on FNC - is perhaps the worst and most evil with I have ever seen in media.
How they are able to get away with blantant statements that the lacrosse team is guilty without consequences I do not comprehend.
In England the media has been sued and lost by Elizabeth Taylor and many others.
Journalists in America have a license to destroy lives for blood money and careers and power.
If this had been a black team (basketball team) and a white victim,, The candlelight vigils would be for the basketball team - not the girl... The Media would be there but looking into the Prosecutor's motives (ala Ken Starr) and wanting to know why he is giving interviews when no one has been charged.
They'd be yelling why didn't the white player get tested?
And they'd be having an absolute fit over the unconstitionality of the search warrant without reasonable cause for each individual. There was not adequate reasonable cause against any individual in this case and it was unconstitutional - Not even close. The Reasonable cause must be specific and in this case it said the Woman said she was raped. That is not specific against any individual. The reason for this was that, as we now know, it took her 31 hours to tell the police what supposedly happened that night.
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Do you REALLY think a woman would make up this story and plant the evidence just to sue some college kids? That's nuts.
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Happens all the time.
It is not at all clear that the facts as reported even support the theory that some kind of sexual activity with the woman necessarily or even likely occurred at the house.
Keep in mind that her boyfriend came to pick her up at the Kroger parking lot, and she was then wearing a see-through negligee and was still intoxicated. Obviously some time must have passed between when the boyfriend picked her up at the Kroger and when the boyfriend brought her to the hospital.
Kimberly Guilfoyle is disgusting.. She was hired by Court TV on Nancy Grace's recommendation. They are a lot alike.
Guilfoyle wrote on her Fox blog, that the Jury not be like the Duke people, the upper crust, but rather the Good people of Durham. I mean that's as close as you can come to saying one side is good and the other side is not. All she knows is their race, yet she claims to know who is good and who is not.
That says volumes about her. Why in the hell did Fox give her a show?
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I'm sorry, but that "fantasy" email from one of the lacrosse students was pretty sick in my book, and will be quite damaging to the defense.
Anton,
Unfortunately you're right, it happens more than in other places. However, a long time, highly respected lawyer NOT involved in the case made a public statement questioning why Nifong would do this? He said that the DA in Neighboring Wake county would never have acted in this manner.
The have latitude, I think. Nifong shut up in a hurry when he did stop talking. He had a full day planned, he had made appointments with various media outlets and then he suddenly cancelled on them. I think someone in a position of authority - or someone he respects - made him aware of his actions. His office confirmed the appointment 24 hours earlier and suddenly he wouldn't give any interviews - after doing it 12-14 hours a day. Someone may have made him aware that he was bringing the area close to violence or riots. A Duke student was attacked by black NCCU student at a local fast food place and they called him a Rapist before they assualted him. Nifong's behavior was/is irresponsible, at best.
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