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Regulators put severe restrictions on salmon fishing
Associated Press ^ | April 7, 2006 | KATU TV 2

Posted on 04/08/2006 10:05:07 PM PDT by george76

Federal regulators have voted to impose severe restrictions on salmon fishing off the coasts of Oregon and Northern California to protect dwindling populations in the Klamath River.

The Pacific Fishery Management Council decided to close about 700 miles of coastline to commercial salmon fishing for most of June and July.

Those are generally the most productive months of the season.

(Excerpt) Read more at katu.com ...


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1 posted on 04/08/2006 10:05:09 PM PDT by george76
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2 posted on 04/08/2006 10:08:18 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Whoo hoo a Sal-mon! :D
3 posted on 04/08/2006 10:09:58 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: george76

Ah, yes, Salmon.

The ONLY "endangered species" that is freely available in any grocery store.

How stupid ARE people?


4 posted on 04/08/2006 10:21:58 PM PDT by Don W (Stoneage man survived thousands of years of bitter-cold ice. Modern man WILLsurvive global warming.)
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To: sionnsar; Salvation; forester; Gordongekko909; fanfan

A Freeping poll.

The Snacking Sea Lion Problem.

http://www.katu.com/news/news_poll_sea_lions.asp


5 posted on 04/08/2006 10:25:34 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Don W

"How stupid ARE people?"

Well, you can fool all of them some of the time...


6 posted on 04/08/2006 10:29:00 PM PDT by dsc
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To: Don W

Grilled Salmon....mmmmmmmmmm


7 posted on 04/08/2006 10:59:48 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: george76

The problem is the commercial fishing with nets. Cut out the net fishing in rivers, the mouths of rivers, and in smaller sounds and the fish will come back. One of the other problems is, they worry about WILD salmon, like there is a difference between wild and hatchery raised fish. Those that believe in evolution, will go to any length to stop changes from happening. They profess the perfection before man came, and insist on acheiving this mythical state forever.


8 posted on 04/08/2006 11:09:39 PM PDT by jeremiah (How much did we get for that rope?)
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To: Don W
Ah, yes, Salmon.

The ONLY "endangered species" that is freely available in any grocery store.

LOL! Or in cat food!

9 posted on 04/09/2006 2:24:34 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: george76
FReeped.

Thanks for the ping.
10 posted on 04/09/2006 7:12:44 AM PDT by fanfan ( We have become the best/biggest news gathering entity in the whole known history of the world.)
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To: jeremiah

The sea lions also kill many salmon. They take one bite and move on to the next fish.

The sea lions can not be hunted even by the local Indians who had previously hunted them for centuries.

With many fishing families and communities at risk, some folks , soon, may not be able to pay their mortgages on their boats nor their homes.


11 posted on 04/09/2006 7:28:41 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: fanfan; fish hawk; tubebender; Max in Utah

Thanks for voting.

"The Snacking Sea Lion Problem "

Would you be opposed to problem sea lions being killed?

Yes 37%

No 63%

Total Votes: 1443

Powered by PollMonkey


12 posted on 04/09/2006 7:32:42 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
My dad's an ex-commercial salmon fisherman. This will be very, very tough on them, their families and the industry of coastal communities.
13 posted on 04/09/2006 7:34:03 AM PDT by Drango (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: Don W
The ONLY "endangered species" that is freely available in any grocery store.

Seeing that ocean salmon runs around $16/lb. where I live, "freely" might not be the best choice of a word.

14 posted on 04/09/2006 7:35:59 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Don W

It really isn't about salmon, but its about power.


15 posted on 04/09/2006 7:41:23 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Drango
Once the PETA lawyers and emotional judges succeed in bankrupting the coastal communities, then Ted Turner and his friends will buy up the local communities.

They will build eco-resorts where their liberal Hollywood friends can find "sanctuary" at an expensive price.
16 posted on 04/09/2006 7:42:54 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: hedgetrimmer

The list of destroyed middle class occupations that the liberal elite attacks is amazing.

"Logging is Bad," so they say. Then small, rural towns loose their main income source and go broke.

"Mining is bad,"...same thing.

"Hunting is Bad,"...same thing.

Grazing livestock in the summer is "Bad"...

Now..."Fishing is Bad."


17 posted on 04/09/2006 7:50:09 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

They say "Farming is bad" too.


18 posted on 04/09/2006 7:58:07 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: george76

Taste just like whale blubber...


19 posted on 04/09/2006 8:02:48 AM PDT by tubebender (BIG REWARD for my missing tag line. Please advance a security deposit to enter...)
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To: george76
Thanks for the ping.

"Would you be opposed to problem sea lions being killed?"

I voted NO.

Heck, I'd be willing to bring my old Chinese SKS and do it myself, but I bet several thousand local fishermen would beat me to it.

Columbia River fishing trip checklist:
Boat & trailer
rod & reel
tackle box & net
sandwiches & coffee
rifle & ammo

20 posted on 04/09/2006 8:53:41 AM PDT by Max in Utah (Communism, Fascism, Islamism-- different voices, same evil.)
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To: george76

And don't you dare plow that field, you'll kill the fairy shrimp.


21 posted on 04/09/2006 8:55:45 AM PDT by FOG724 (http://nationalgrange.org/legislation/phpBB2/index.php)
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To: hedgetrimmer
They say "Farming is bad" too.

You beat me to it.

22 posted on 04/09/2006 8:56:25 AM PDT by FOG724 (http://nationalgrange.org/legislation/phpBB2/index.php)
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To: george76

This country is too "civilized".


23 posted on 04/09/2006 9:00:34 AM PDT by jeremiah (How much did we get for that rope?)
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To: george76

They have said "fishing is bad" for quite some time. In WA state, they began allowing net fishing at the spawning destinations, in the late 70's. Instead of the boats working the ocean, they set up nets in a phalanx in the sound, right in front of the river mouth.


24 posted on 04/09/2006 9:05:54 AM PDT by jeremiah (How much did we get for that rope?)
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To: FOG724

The liberals introduce a rat and then sue the farmer to stop farming the farm.


25 posted on 04/09/2006 9:41:57 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
Exactly, causing property values to drop creating a willing seller. The local conservancy then buys up the land cheap using tax dollars. They then turn around and donate the land back to the government.
26 posted on 04/09/2006 9:46:44 AM PDT by FOG724 (http://nationalgrange.org/legislation/phpBB2/index.php)
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To: FOG724
They also sell pieces of the newly created wilderness to liberals like David Letterman or Ted Turner.

These politically correct fools then build mansions and estates for their own personal "sanctuary."
27 posted on 04/09/2006 9:51:32 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Not to mention the oil drilling and logging they have done on their land.


28 posted on 04/09/2006 9:52:27 AM PDT by FOG724 (http://nationalgrange.org/legislation/phpBB2/index.php)
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To: FOG724

It is ok for them to use their land, but it is not politically ok for us to use our own land.

They play a zoning game. They steal from the middle class to give to a prefered politically correct liberal.


29 posted on 04/09/2006 9:58:42 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: FOG724

Farm PING :-)


30 posted on 04/09/2006 9:59:09 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer

:-)


31 posted on 04/09/2006 10:00:30 AM PDT by FOG724 (http://nationalgrange.org/legislation/phpBB2/index.php)
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To: Don W

The stuff at the grocery stores are farm-raised crap injected with pink dye. Nothing beats the taste (and nutrition) of wild salmon.


32 posted on 04/09/2006 10:01:51 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (A nickel bag gets sold in the park. I WANT IN!)
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To: george76

What can we do to either modify or get rid of this heinous Aquatic Mammal Protection nonsense? We are killing ourselves with anthropomorphic kindness...SSZ


33 posted on 04/09/2006 10:02:52 AM PDT by szweig
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Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.

updated List of Ping lists vol.III(Get Your Fresh Hot Pings Here!)


34 posted on 04/09/2006 10:05:25 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Farm raised salmon tastes mushy.


35 posted on 04/09/2006 10:05:54 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: traviskicks

ping


36 posted on 04/09/2006 10:06:20 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: jeremiah
... like there is a difference between wild and hatchery raised fish.

There are measurable differences, huge differences.

37 posted on 04/09/2006 10:15:27 AM PDT by Poincare
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To: szweig
Call and write to your congress and senate people.

Attend public meetings and speak up.

I do and it has helped, sometimes. At least, I feel better.

Recently, Congress passed the Healthy Forest Bill. It will take decades to overcome the decades of neglect and to be effective, but it is a small start.

Predators should be balanced. Wolf packs destroy Moose herds from Alaska to the Upper Peninsula.

Sea lions are destroying the fish populations. Bears kill baby deer and baby elk.

The PETA and Sierra Club lawyers have found emotional Judges to make scientific decisions.

We should fight the DUmmies to allow the decision makers to be educated and experienced scientists, biologists, and foresters.
38 posted on 04/09/2006 10:17:41 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: freepatriot32

BTTT


39 posted on 04/09/2006 10:19:36 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Don W
How stupid are people. Well look in the mirror and tell us. The salmon you see in the stores are not from anywhere close to the west coast. If you can read, it will say "Atlantic Salmon" on the label and most of that is from growing ponds and the reddish color comes from dyes. The real salmon, Chinooks or King Salmon or the Coho or Silvers are really endangered. You probably have never tasted one. You wont get it at Safeway.
40 posted on 04/09/2006 10:30:34 AM PDT by fish hawk (TU)
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To: Max in Utah
"Would you be opposed to problem sea lions being killed?" I voted NO

Me, too.

"No" leads 63 to 37.

Pile it on folks.

41 posted on 04/09/2006 11:27:13 AM PDT by stboz
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To: jeremiah; FOG724; Carry_Okie; Grampa Dave; sasquatch; Jeff Head; Issaquahking; marsh2; ...
I remember in the late 1970's, watching some Indian on a Ford tractor on the Klamath, very near the mouth of the river, pulling a huge net from clear across the river, up the gravel bank that looked worn down from this, and then throwing the salmon in his pickup till the tires could take no more... Then driving off somewhere to SELL THEM!!! Not for his own eating, but to make an OBSCENE NATIVE AMERICAN PROFIT!!!

This wasn't "Chief Seattle," it was Cheap Seattle!!!

42 posted on 04/09/2006 11:52:51 AM PDT by SierraWasp (Without knowing the force of words, it is impossible to know man!!! (or especially Waspman!!!))
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To: jeremiah

I think you are SO correct in your astute observations!!!


43 posted on 04/09/2006 11:55:15 AM PDT by SierraWasp (Without knowing the force of words, it is impossible to know man!!! (or especially Waspman!!!))
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To: stboz

Thanks for voting.


44 posted on 04/09/2006 11:58:31 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: hedgetrimmer
"It really isn't about salmon, but its about power."

Even though I agree with you fully... please don't just throw flat statements like that out on a board like this without at least a "canned" explanation of how you reached that conclusion. Most of those reading it, unless they've followed your excellent postings for a few years like I have, have no clue as to WHY you would say such a radical thing.

Be pursuasive by repeating your explanations, even though that probably bores you and a very few of the rest of us, to death!!! Newer FReepers and the uninitiated need your help. Thanks! (grin)

45 posted on 04/09/2006 12:01:20 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Without knowing the force of words, it is impossible to know man!!! (or especially Waspman!!!))
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To: SierraWasp; hedgetrimmer

I second that motion. All those in favor say Aye.


46 posted on 04/09/2006 12:13:42 PM PDT by FOG724 (http://nationalgrange.org/legislation/phpBB2/index.php)
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To: SierraWasp

I had rather see that happen than a bunch of fat seals killing the salmon as they come in. At least there was the chance of someone getting to eat those salmon.

When the seals attack the salmon and in particuliar the hen salmon, often they target the stomach areas only. They love to eat the parts of the hen Salmon holding the eggs.

After they have dined on their choice part of the salmon, they drop the rest of the dead or dying salmon in the water and leave it to the sea gulls and crabs.


47 posted on 04/09/2006 12:38:41 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (How long has the NY Slimes, Compost, and LA Slimes been Enroning (cooking) their books?)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The stuff at the grocery stores are farm-raised crap injected with pink dye. Nothing beats the taste (and nutrition) of wild salmon.

I like the canned salmon. It's really cheap these days. $1.50 for pink salmon 16oz can. Canned is of course wild salmon

48 posted on 04/09/2006 12:42:40 PM PDT by dennisw (If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles-Sun Tzu)
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To: Don W; GreenFreeper; albertp; Allosaurs_r_us; Abram; Americanwolfsbrother; AlexandriaDuke; ...
Libertarian ping! To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here.
49 posted on 04/09/2006 1:12:20 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/israel_palestine_conflict.htm)
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To: Grampa Dave

The Regulators would love to ban fishing by middle class working folks who have mortgages on their boats and on their homes.

Then their friends can buy up the empty working coastal communities.

If the regulators properly managed the sea lions, the salmon stock would be good.

But then Ted Turner, Dave Letterman, and Ron Burkle could not build their eco-resorts.


50 posted on 04/09/2006 1:20:36 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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