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Texas Prof.: 'We're Breeding Our Brains Out' (We need to Kill More Humand to Save the Earth)
Newsmax.com ^ | 04/04/2006 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 04/04/2006 9:41:40 AM PDT by SirLinksalot

Texas Prof.: 'We're Breeding Our Brains Out'

Talk radio and blogs are taking aim at a University of Texas biology professor because of a published report suggesting he advocates death for most of the human population as a means of saving the Earth.

However, Eric Pianka says his remarks about his beliefs were taken out of context, that he was just raising a warning that deadly disease epidemics are a threat if population growth isn't contained.

"What we really need to do is start thinking about controlling our population before it's too late," he said Monday. "It's already too late, but we're not even thinking about it. We're just mindlessly rushing ahead breeding our brains out."

Pianka, who has gotten vitriolic e-mails and even a death threat, said he believes the Earth would be better off if there were fewer people using up natural resources and destroying habitats.

The furor began when The Gazette-Enterprise of Seguin, Texas, reported Sunday on two speeches Pianka made last month to groups of scientists and students about vanishing animal habitats and the exploding human population.

That report was circulated widely and posted on "The Drudge Report," then quickly became talk radio fodder.

The Gazette-Enterprise quoted Pianka as saying disease "will control the scourge of humanity. We're looking forward to a huge collapse."

It said he weighed the killing power of various diseases such as bird flu and HIV but decided neither would yield the needed results.

"HIV is too slow. It's no good," he said.

Pianka said that doesn't mean he wants most humans to die.

However, Forrest Mims, an amateur scientist, author and chairman of the Texas Academy of Science's environmental science section, told The Associated Press there was no mistaking Pianka's disdain for humans and desire for their elimination in the speech he heard.

"He wishes for it. He hopes for it. He laughs about it. He jokes about it," Mims said. "It's got to happen because we are the scourge of humanity."

Pianka was expressing his own opinion, University of Texas spokesman Don Hale said.

"Dr. Pianka has First Amendment rights to express his point of view," Hale said. "We have plenty of faculty with a lot of different points of view and they have the right to express that point of view, but they're expressing their personal point of view."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: academia; austin; breeding; crevolist; earth; forrestmims; genocidalmaniac; pianka; population; populationcontrol; texas; wacko; yourtaxdollars
As James Taranto of OpinionJournal would say :

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Forrest Mims of the Texas Academy of Science has a somewhat disturbing report on a speech one Eric Pianka, a "University of Texas evolutionary ecologist and lizard expert," delivered to the academy last month. Pianka argued that "overpopulation" was endangering the Earth, a commonplace enough notion, but one he carried to monstrous extremes:

Without presenting any data to justify this number, he asserted that the only feasible solution to saving the Earth is to reduce the population to 10 percent of the present number. . . .

His favorite candidate for eliminating 90 percent of the world's population is airborne Ebola (Ebola Reston), because it is both highly lethal and it kills in days, instead of years. However, Professor Pianka did not mention that Ebola victims die a slow and torturous death as the virus initiates a cascade of biological calamities inside the victim that eventually liquefy the internal organs. . . .

When Pianka finished his remarks, the audience applauded. It wasn't merely a smattering of polite clapping that audiences diplomatically reserve for poor or boring speakers. It was a loud, vigorous and enthusiastic applause.

Then came the question and answer session, in which Professor Pianka stated that other diseases are also efficient killers.

The audience laughed when he said, "You know, the bird flu's good, too." They laughed again when he proposed, with a discernable note of glee in his voice that, "We need to sterilize everybody on the Earth." . . .

He spoke glowingly of the police state in China that enforces their one-child policy. He said, "Smarter people have fewer kids." He said those who don't have a conscience about the Earth will inherit the Earth, "...because those who care make fewer babies and those that didn't care made more babies." He said we will evolve as uncaring people, and "I think IQs are falling for the same reason, too."

With this, the questioning was over. Immediately almost every scientist, professor and college student present stood to their feet and vigorously applauded the man who had enthusiastically endorsed the elimination of 90 percent of the human population.

Probably the audience's enthusiasm was in large part simply a result of the frisson of hearing someone say something so outlandish. But the story does reinforce the stereotype of scientists as brainy freaks devoid of ordinary human feeling and common sense.

1 posted on 04/04/2006 9:41:43 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot

OOOPS, I mis-spelled the word HUMANS in the title.

Moderator, kindly correct it. Thanks.


2 posted on 04/04/2006 9:42:50 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot

This Prof, who shall remain nameless forever, is not suggesting any proactive reduction of population but that the growth of population will trigger its own reduction. The entire matter is of no importance.


3 posted on 04/04/2006 9:44:06 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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To: SirLinksalot
'...Breeding Our Brains Out'

I believe he got that expression wrong.

4 posted on 04/04/2006 9:44:55 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: RightWhale

Maybe he could begin by eliminating himself!


5 posted on 04/04/2006 9:45:08 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: SirLinksalot

6 posted on 04/04/2006 9:45:14 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead

I can't top that. Oh well, time for a nap...


7 posted on 04/04/2006 9:46:50 AM PDT by Solamente (Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out)
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To: SirLinksalot; 8mmMauser; floriduh voter
Without presenting any data to justify this number, he asserted that the only feasible solution to saving the Earth is to reduce the population to 10 percent of the present number. . . . His favorite candidate for eliminating 90 percent of the world's population is airborne Ebola (Ebola Reston), because it is both highly lethal and it kills in days, instead of years. However, Professor Pianka did not mention that Ebola victims die a slow and torturous death as the virus initiates a cascade of biological calamities inside the victim that eventually liquefy the internal organs. . . .

Lovely. Ping worthy? I'd like to drop kick the guy into a yard full of pit bulls. Of course, that wouldn't be the Christian thing to do....

8 posted on 04/04/2006 9:47:40 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (I care for my pets better than Vincente Fox cares for his own citizens)
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I wonder how hard the sovereign God of the universe laughs at people like this?


9 posted on 04/04/2006 9:47:44 AM PDT by crghill
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To: SirLinksalot
He said, "Smarter people have fewer kids."

Orthodox Jews have some of the highest IQs on the planet, and having ten children in a family is hardly remarkable in that community.

There is no such thing as "overpopulation" - the human mind is a near-infinite resource and the only earthly one we need to ensure physical survival.

10 posted on 04/04/2006 9:47:51 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: mlc9852

He is old and looks like he will come down with some nasty physical condition any day. If he were young and just starting out he might be a candidate for professional assistance.


11 posted on 04/04/2006 9:48:22 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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To: SirLinksalot
Pianka should start with himself if he's so concerned about overpopulation. It'd be the unselfish thing to do.

Seriously, what a waste of good oxygen. If algore wants to know what causes global warming, he oughta start with the stuff this guy's mouth is emitting.

12 posted on 04/04/2006 9:48:32 AM PDT by Emile (Welcome to New Orleans, aka "The Big Chocolate")
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To: mlc9852
That would be a nice thought, but like most pseudo-intellectual elitists, he probably considers himself among The Chosen Few who must survive to participate in the re-birth of humanity in a brave new world. Everyone else can just be fertilizer for these people.
13 posted on 04/04/2006 9:49:23 AM PDT by chimera
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To: dead

dead, GET OUT OF MY CHAIR!


14 posted on 04/04/2006 9:49:30 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: SirLinksalot

I guess he must be fishing for a chaired professorship at Princeton.

When he says that "We're breeding our brains out," I'm tempted to ask, "Who's this we, Quimosabe?"

Muslims all over the world are breeding their brains out. Mexicans are breeding their brains out. But well-mannered Europeans and western intellectuals are busy working toward demographic extinction.

I hate to say it, but according to history, the rule is, "He who breeds, wins."

Still, talk about spreading ebola and bird flu is, to say the least, disturbing. Let's not forget that international "population planning" was dreamed up by Margaret Sanger but first implemented by the CIA, which saw it as a way of evening the odds against potential future enemies in the breeding grounds of the third world. Now, of course, the UN is carrying the ball.


15 posted on 04/04/2006 9:49:51 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: mlc9852

16 posted on 04/04/2006 9:49:59 AM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: SirLinksalot

(The Waffle Spot)

Sir Linksalot, meet Sir Wafflelot.


17 posted on 04/04/2006 9:50:23 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: SirLinksalot
The people who scream over population and want to kill off humans never remove themselves from the population. They just want to kill off others!
18 posted on 04/04/2006 9:50:42 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO")
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To: SirLinksalot
'We're Breeding Our Brains Out'

No. We've been aborting out brains out for the last 30+ years. That's why it's so essential to have temporary guest workers to do the work Americans aren't there to do.

19 posted on 04/04/2006 9:51:25 AM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: SirLinksalot

I'm guessing they all assume that they will be in the 10% of the population left standing. It seems clear to me, however, that the odds are against them.


20 posted on 04/04/2006 9:54:34 AM PDT by twigs
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To: SirLinksalot
30 years ago it was that over population would lead to food shortages and famines.

And now just look at all the skinny people there are.

< /sarcasm >

It seems there are more people in motorized wheelchairs now that are morbidly obese than are using them because of dysfunctional limbs.

21 posted on 04/04/2006 10:00:42 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: crghill

>>I wonder how hard the sovereign God of the universe laughs at people like this?<<

That's what I was thinking.

According to Psalm 2, he laughs quite a bit. Then he destroys them in His wrath.


22 posted on 04/04/2006 10:11:01 AM PDT by SerpentDove (Free Republic is more powerful than Dan Rather, Peter Jennings and Tom Brokaw put together.)
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To: SerpentDove

Whoops, capitalizeation problems:

>>According to Psalm 2, He laughs quite a bit. Then He destroys them in His wrath.<<


23 posted on 04/04/2006 10:13:24 AM PDT by SerpentDove (Free Republic is more powerful than Dan Rather, Peter Jennings and Tom Brokaw put together.)
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To: SirLinksalot
God blessed them; and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth."
- Genesis 1:28


The boss said MULTIPLY...

StrongÂ’s Hebrew and Greek Dictionaries:
(râbâh)
raw-baw'
A primitive root; to increase (in whatever respect): - [bring in] abundance (X -antly), + archer [by mistake for H7232], be in authority, bring up, X continue, enlarge, excel, exceeding (-ly), be full of, (be, make) great (-er, -ly), X -ness), grow up, heap, increase, be long, (be, give, have, make, use) many (a time), (any, be, give, give the, have) more (in number), (ask, be, be so, gather, over, take, yield) much (greater, more), (make to) multiply, nourish, plenty (-eous), X process [of time], sore, store, thoroughly, very.

Brown-Driver-Briggs' Hebrew Definitions:
1) be or become great, be or become many, be or become much, be or become numerous
     1a) (Qal)
          1a1) to become many, become numerous, multiply (of people, animals, things)
          1a2) to be or grow great
     1b) (Piel) to make large, enlarge, increase, become many
     1c) (Hiphil)
          1c1) to make much, make many, have many
               1c1a) to multiply, increase
               1c1b) to make much to do, do much in respect of, transgress greatly
               1c1c) to increase greatly or exceedingly
          1c2) to make great, enlarge, do much
2) (Qal) to shoot
Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament:
Hebrew Word: raba
Definition I: be(come) great, many, much, numerous.
Definition II: shoot (Gen_21:20, only). Doubtless a by-form of rabab II.

This is the West Semitic form of a very common term cognate to Ugaritic rb and Akkadian rabu, This is the suffix common to so many Babylonian-Assyrian names, e.g. "Hammurabi"="the god Ham (perhaps 'ammu) is great." The root appears over two hundred times in the OT. The two major differentiations in meaning are connected with occurrences in the Qal stem, 60, and the Hiphil stem, 155 in all. The initial occurrence of the root is Gen_1:22. " Multiply"is read by all of the versions, but in subsequent usages a variety of translations appear, "increase" (Gen_7:17-18); "be many" (1Ch_23:17); "so much" (Gen_43:34): In single instances a great many more meanings are in evidence. In the Hiphil stem the standard and most common meaning is "multiply, " but a variety of other translations are also given: "ask much" (Gen_34:12); "gather much" (Exo_16:18); "yield much" (Neh_9:37); "give more" (Num_26:54); "to heap" (Eze_24:10). The wide range of proffered meanings shows the latitude of the original Hebrew root. Although generally restricted to quantitative contexts, the root raba has some use in metaphorical expressions. It is used in the following special senses: "live long" (Job_29:18); "make words great, " "to brag" against God (Job_34:37), and "have many children" (1Ch_7:4). W.W.
24 posted on 04/04/2006 10:25:20 AM PDT by Sopater (Creatio Ex Nihilo)
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To: SirLinksalot

Lead by example, professor!


25 posted on 04/04/2006 10:28:25 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?")
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To: SirLinksalot

Didn't I read recently that China and some other countries are starting to rethink the 1 child policy? I think they were concerned about under population.


26 posted on 04/04/2006 10:57:55 AM PDT by imskylark
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To: SirLinksalot

Oh brother. Another Erlich or Malthus. Those who don't study history are doomed to repeat it.


27 posted on 04/04/2006 10:59:22 AM PDT by TChris ("Wake up, America. This is serious." - Ben Stein)
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To: RightWhale
I don't think you read the article very carefully 
This Prof, who shall remain nameless forever,

"University of Texas biology professor... Eric Pianka" (contained in Paragraph 1 and 2)

is not suggesting any proactive reduction of population but that the growth of population will trigger its own reduction. The entire matter is of no importance.

 Now the only thing in the posted article is the one quote from Forrest Mims

"He wishes for it. He hopes for it. He laughs about it. He jokes about it," Mims said. "It's got to happen because we are the scourge of humanity."

And they go out of their way to dismiss Mims as an "amateur," ignoring the fact that he is a published author as well as a scientific award winner himself and is the chair of the Environment Studies group of the body at whose awards dinner this speech was given.  That clearly is not conclusive, but if you checked out Forrest Mims' report on this event at The Citizen Scientist you'd find just a bit more detail that contradicts your conclusion:

First, this little tid bit in the editor's preface:

Apparently at the speaker's direction, the speech was not video taped by the Academy and so Forrest's may be the only record of what was said.

then Forest Mims' comments

... a speech that enthusiastically advocated the elimination of 90 percent of Earth's population by airborne Ebola...

... Professor Pianka began his speech by explaining that the general public is not yet ready to hear what he was about to tell us...

... I grabbed a notepad so I could take on the role of science reporter...

... Pianka hammered his point home by exclaiming, “We're no better than bacteria!”...

... Professor Pianka said the Earth as we know it will not survive without drastic measures. Then, and without presenting any data to justify this number, he asserted that the only feasible solution to saving the Earth is to reduce the population to 10 percent of the present number...

... “We need to sterilize everybody on the Earth.”...

We have no right to live, any more than a bacteria does, the Earth is in danger because of us, "we need to" fix that and killing 90% of the population with airborn Ebola is the most efficient way we have to accomplish it.  Oh, and nobody can know what was said in the speech, so none of the normal video or audio recording of the event was allowed.  Then Mims provides that he took contemporary notes.  I think Mims interpretation of the speech and evidence for his position would have a good chance of standing up in a court of law.

Margaret Sanger also preached the same kind of eugenics madness.  Planned Parenthood is based on the notion that "lesser peoples" should not be encouraged (read as allowed) to procreate.  They still concentrate most heavily on minority populations.

Like hell he's not encouraging active measures. 

You are, however, entitled to your opinion, but I think Mims is in a far better position to back up his opinion than you are with yours.  Or were you at the event?  Or are you Professor  Pianka? </grinning ducking and running away>


28 posted on 04/04/2006 11:13:47 AM PDT by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: Phsstpok

They are all nameless. They will be forgotten as soon as they are gone.


29 posted on 04/04/2006 11:22:22 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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To: SirLinksalot
There is a running thread of insanity that pops up in the scientific community every once in a while. It also pops up in Science Fiction writing more frequently.

It goes something like this:

The human race is in danger of extinction because of overcrowding.

That's right, the human race is going to disappear because there are too many humans.

30 posted on 04/04/2006 11:25:51 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: dead

You wanna see a monkey? Go look in the mirror, you'll see a monkey.


31 posted on 04/04/2006 11:31:54 AM PDT by Flavius Josephus (War today is always cheaper than war tomorrow.)
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To: imskylark
Didn't I read recently that China and some other countries are starting to rethink the 1 child policy? I think they were concerned about under population.

It seems like a bigger concern is lack of future wives for the disproportionate number of only-boy families. And why are there so many boys...?
32 posted on 04/04/2006 11:38:25 AM PDT by nk_47
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To: SirLinksalot

I think our chances would be vastly improved if we got rid of 90% of the liberals.


33 posted on 04/04/2006 11:41:49 AM PDT by texas_mrs
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To: RightWhale
They are all nameless. They will be forgotten as soon as they are gone.

I thought that might be what you were reaching for, but it's not what 

This Prof, who shall remain nameless forever,

says. 

It would have been clearer if you'd said

This Prof, whose name shall soon be forgotten for all time

or something similar.  It would have made it easier. 

34 posted on 04/04/2006 1:39:01 PM PDT by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: Phsstpok

I had an English teacher who told me that earth must be capitalized. I asked her if she would accept the dictionary as final authority, and she could not very well say no. I saw her a couple years later, out of work, wandering the streets dazedly.


35 posted on 04/04/2006 1:45:02 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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To: SirLinksalot

The creep would no doubt exclude himself from the purge--


36 posted on 04/04/2006 2:04:47 PM PDT by ariamne (Proud shieldmaiden of the infidel--never forget, never forgive 9/11)
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To: DBrow

Colonics for everyone!


37 posted on 04/04/2006 2:06:09 PM PDT by ariamne (Proud shieldmaiden of the infidel--never forget, never forgive 9/11)
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To: dead

MonKEY, MonKEY..


38 posted on 04/04/2006 2:06:44 PM PDT by ariamne (Proud shieldmaiden of the infidel--never forget, never forgive 9/11)
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To: SirLinksalot
re: University of Texas evolutionary ecologist and lizard expert)))

LOL!! He just has to be one of the frail freeks of Darwin Central.

39 posted on 04/04/2006 2:08:52 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: TheSpottedOwl; floriduh voter
Thanks, the guy is so scary,I am glad this got a separate thread. We posted what was out at the time on Monday, post #1,502.

Terri APRIL Dailies

8mm

40 posted on 04/05/2006 5:48:58 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser

Dear Dr. Eric R. Pianka

I am writing to you in regards to the speech you made at the 109th meeting of the Texas Academy of Science at Lamar University in Beaumont on 3-5 March 2006 in which you advocated the reduction of the earths population by 90%.

The idea of reducing the earths population by 90% has stimulated my mind and I wish to add the following thoughts on the issue:

You said your favorite candidate for eliminating 90 percent of the world's population is airborne Ebola ( Ebola Reston ), because it is both highly lethal and it kills in days, instead of years.

The problem I see with Ebola is that it does not discriminate between perfect and imperfect people. You stated that everyone who survives would be responsible for burying nine others who did not, but you fail take into account the handicap, elderly, infants, and others who may survive but are not capable of burying the remains of nine other humans.
To reduce some of this burden may I suggest replacing Ebola with some type of genetically engineered flesh eating bacteria that would not only devour its victim in less time than Ebola but also would consume most of the remains?

Another problem is that it would be possible for many of the survivors to include retarded people and conservatives rather than elite intellectual liberals who would take care of the world. A number of conservatives are involved in the pharmaceutical industry and this may give them an advantage of survival against Ebola. The most likely people to die will be the poor oppressed minorities which tend to vote for liberal candidates, without them the surviving conservatives will surely take over the world and begin using the retarded people to build even more factories and SUVs.

I realize that you think the earth is doomed and you wish to save it.
However, instead of indiscriminately killing off 90% of the population without any selection process, I think the more logical solutions are as follows:

Ignorance vs. Ebola

It has been said that “ignorance is bliss“; So, if people do not realize that they are doomed they can still be happy.
That leaves two types of people who cannot be happy:
1. People that have Ebola or some life threatening disease (who are doomed)
2. People who don’t but who are so intelligent that they have figured out that we are all doomed. (ie. intellectuals and college professors)

If we eliminate these two types of people then everyone else has the prospect of being happy until they figure out they are doomed.


The ultimate solution

You stated in your speech; “We're no better than bacteria!”
In that statement lies the answer!
Since we are no better than bacteria, What is?
Like us bacteria must labor and eat and reproduce to survive but will eventually die anyway.
However inorganic materials are superior to both humans and bacteria because they can exist without having to eat and they never die. Neither do they suffer or catch diseases and so have the prospect of being eternal.
Therefore, to create perfection you cannot eliminate a mere 90% of life but it must be 100%.
Most of the universe already exists in this state of perfection and it is only the earth that seems to have the burdens, imperfections, and complications of life.
If the earth is rid of life then it can join the rest of the universe in a more perfect state which exists without effort, crime, sorrow, pain, and death.

Sound like a plan?

Thank you doctor for coming up with 90% of the solution to remedy the complex problems of life.

Randy Sprinkle
Rockport, Texas


41 posted on 04/05/2006 11:00:22 AM PDT by inpajamas
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