JAYNA DAVIS - why won't Rohrbacher bring my video interviews before his committee in closed session?

Jayna Davis phone call ^ | 4-3-06 | Doug from Upland

[attiladhun2]

You are correct. The ME connection is evident in the following:

*The secret VINs removed from the Ryder truck, std ME op precedure (except for one on rear axle so McVeigh could take the fall)
*Truck was spotted at the weakest pt in the structure of the Murrah bldg (another std ME op procedure)
*Homemade TNT used (std ME receipe)
*McViegh seen with ME types before bombing
*McViegh and Nichols didn't have a thimble full of brains between them

If you look at photos of other ME bombings, they look remarkably like the Murrah bldg after the bombing. The OKC bombing literally stinks of falafal and Mocha java.

[attiladhun2]

Look, the FBI and the CIA have been bungling things for years. Why, because the terrorists have been doing this stuff for years, are more ruthless, and are just plain smarter than most of these G-men, many of whom are just college educated smarta$$es.

[Peach]

If you look at photos of other ME bombings, they look remarkably like the Murrah bldg after the bombing. The OKC bombing literally stinks of falafal and Mocha java.

I don't know if you noticed, but upthread I posted that after the bombing, the government invited to Israeli bomb experts to examine the debris. They concluded without doubt that it was the work of ME terrorists.

[Shelayne]

One question is particularly disturbing: What are the most famous and important American corporations that handle American interests and where is it located?

OH MY GOODNESS! My eyes are literally bugging out of my head.**picking up jaw from floor** Is THAT damning or what??

I am sure the media will jump right on these eye-poppers, too, right? /sarc

[attiladhun2]

Video tape from an ATM also indentifies him. I am telling you this is a CYA situation. The FBI has bungled this case from the beginning, and the Arabs involved in the plot made sure McViegh would get fingered.
I am no conspiracy theorist, but the OKC bombing needs to be looked into.

[Peach]

Eyespysomething - could you please use your ping list for post #230?

Freeper StillProud2BeFree provided an analysis of Document # 2002-801138.

[attiladhun2]

AMEN!!!!

[Peach]

I'm forgetting his name right now, but the Congress had it's own terrorism expert and before the OKC blast, he warned them that a terrorist attack would occur in the heartland of America and Iraq or other ME terrorists would use Lily White's to cover up their involvement.

At this point, I can't even blame Clinton for this because it's within the power of our side to expose the cover-up, and they, for pretty obvious reasons, I think, don't want to do so.

[Peach]

If you haven't read Jayna's book, I'm serious - it's one of the most important reads you can read. I've lent the book to some liberals and they came away not only convinced in Iraq's involvement in OKC, but being okay with the current war in Iraq after being outspoken against it!!!

[attiladhun2]

Don't forget Flt 800--one common denominator with all them is Iraq. Saddam as much as admitted Flt 800 was a black op in a speech before the party faithful the day before the incident (which took place on Iraqi Indepence Day). If you recall, he was greatly interested in using offshore boats to attack U.S. targets.

[Peach]

Saddam as much as admitted Flt 800 was a black op in a speech before the party faithful the day before the incident

I never knew that! John Kerry twice on national television referred to Flight 800 as a terrorist attack and so did George Stephanapolous.

[TXnMA]

diesel fuel (the key chemical component used in Ryder truck bomb)

Just to keep the record straight, ANFO is only about seven (7) percent fuel oil. The oil's primary function is to keep the primary explosive (ammonium nitrate) from absorbing moisture.

Oil is not required for detonation -- witness the SS Grandcamp, which exploded while being loaded with fresh ammonium nitrate at the Texas City Monsanto dock in 1947.

[StillProud2BeFree]

That would be Yousef Bodansky

[sam_paine]

The "underlying plot of OKC is not crystal clear to begin with", because there has been a complex -- and largely successful -- coverup.

I am a PROPONENT of the concept that someone (middleeasterners) were involved in OKC besides McVeigh. My thought here was that SOMEONE ON FR, if anywhere, could explain what THEY THOUGHT or SUSPECTED had happened in a short paragraph.

Something like: "Saddam, motivated by XYZ, wanted to strike the US, so he linked up with McVeigh and provided him with ABC, etc."

Instead TXnMA complain that -I- use bad logic (bad logic in a question, forcryingoutlioud!!!,) Peach scolds me for not reading "all the links," and DFU, in an honest response to my request for "a clear, concise, convincing, bite-size argument as to what "really" happened"....sends me 2,199 words (counted them in word) from a continuously updated blog (update I, Update II, etc, link, link, link.)

I want to have an argument that can be spread easily and simply to grandparents and friends who are not "FR-quality."

But if I can't get anything like that here, it seems clear that it doesn't exist.

DFU, I thank you for your post, of course, but I'm going to try to summarize that link and see if you think I've distilled it correctly.

[sam_paine]

Not to be confrontational, but it's hard to believe you've read the links and think Schippers isn't onboard.

The article above quite clearly says that (1) Schippers flew to OKC to interview Jayna's sources, and then (2) that Rohrbacher can't afford to get Jayna to washington?

Schippers (or you, or JimRob, or ME or ANYONE) involved in this and totally behind it is able to spend money to check out the sources, but then nobody can afford $400 of their own money round trip to send Jayna to Washington to see the committee?

Sounds like to me that Schippers went, saw, and either got less interested, or was unable to persuade anyone else to be interested.

Meanwhile, I tried to get someone here to give me a synopsis of this thing, and all I've gotten is people telling me I haven't "read the links." Maybe Rohrbacher got the same treatment I have?

I'm beginning to think there is a simple theory, story, or anything that isn't book-sized and $19.95.

[sam_paine]

The "underlying plot of OKC is not crystal clear to begin with", because there has been a complex -- and largely successful -- coverup.

Uh? So anytime there's no proof of something, then it must've been covered up?

Ok, so what was the motivation for the coverup and how did everyone get on board?

I started believing this stuff back when Alex Jones was the only person covering it. Now that he's turned into a leftist lunatic, I'm starting to wonder who's really still walking the line here.

[doug from upland]

When you summarize it, share the summary with us.

[Peach]

That's his name; thank you.

[Peach]

So you're telling us it has to be simple or you don't believe it? Or can't follow it?

I don't get what you don't get.

Did you see what I said about Iraqi Republican Guards upthread? You do know that some Iraqi's want to destroy America, right? And that they brag about using proxies?

[doug from upland]

I didn't realize that you wanted a summary for distribution. Some people here probably thought you were just being lazy and didn't want to read the info. :) Doing a summary will be helpful for others who don't have the time for the massive amount of info in this case.