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I find two things of particular interest in this story.

1. Its another one of those things that makes it really hard to like McCain. I'm not one who would refuse to vote for him, as I'd take him over Hillary (or any other potential Dem nominee), but it just seems like he sometimes goes out of his way to make himself unpalatable to the base.

2. The line from the anonymous protesters about Bush really does serve to illustrate the hole the GOP has dug for itself. Yes, its true that one shouldn't read too much into the stupid ravings of some nut in some outrageous demonstration, and one shouldn't assume that the sentiments expressed by the nut represents the broader Hispanic community. But it shouldn't be disregarded either, as the sentiment probably has more widespread acceptance than we'd like to think. Bush has reached out (or pandered) like no other Republican, and like few Democrats. His rhetoric on immigration is decidedly leftist. He has refused to enforce existing laws. He has embraced a form of amnesty. Yet despite all of this, you still have people from the group Bush has sought to placate basically calling him and his party a bunch of racists.

It should serve as a cautionary tale for Republicans.

1 posted on 04/02/2006 5:45:34 PM PDT by Aetius
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Okay, this is Newsmax, so I'm going to take a deep breath before replying.


54 posted on 04/02/2006 6:45:32 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (Come on, Gary, act! (I finally saw Team America and am still laughing))
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Well, if he had any chance to the Republican nomination, --which I don't really think he ever did --, he just blew it.


57 posted on 04/02/2006 6:51:59 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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I believe McCain is truly insane. As a result he's very dangerous. I could not vote for him under any circumstance.


59 posted on 04/02/2006 6:53:14 PM PDT by DB (©)
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There is Republican from Arizona who has his issue right --- J D Hayworth... unfortunately, the senior Senator from the Grand Canyon State is severely out of touch with the vast majority of the members of his party.
He has virtually guaranteed that he can not get the republican nomination ... I would not be surprised to see a third party candidacy from McCain enough to throw the election to Hillary. The MSM will orgasm all over themselves with the thought of McCain's third party run.


62 posted on 04/02/2006 6:54:37 PM PDT by Froggie
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To: Borax Queen; Northern Yankee; Victoria Delsoul; SandRat; wagglebee; Aetius; Jim_Curtis; ...
Despite the Arizona Republican's support, marchers on Saturday sounded decidedly anti-GOP.

Hey BQ!

Why don't you tell our fellow FReepers what that witch minion at McPAIN's office told you, when you called his office the other day??

64 posted on 04/02/2006 6:59:17 PM PDT by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big".....Jerry Fletcher)
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I see nothing wrong with wanting a balanced immigration bill with both fixing the borders and guest worker. But to praise these anti-American demonstrations and encourage them for political purposes is sickening.


67 posted on 04/02/2006 7:03:35 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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Why isn't the Attorney General Indicting McLame and many other members of the Congress and the Administration for NONFEASANCE?

What happened to the oath of office in which the politician promised to FAITHFULLY UPHOLD THE CONSTITUION OF THE UNITED STATES (not Mexico)?
69 posted on 04/02/2006 7:06:44 PM PDT by leprechaun9
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McCain forgot that he has to run in a primary before the general election. He's done.


75 posted on 04/02/2006 7:12:15 PM PDT by Scarchin (www.classdismissedblog.com.)
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>Since the Mayflower immigrants have been coming here and now we have Republicans who are against minorities<

No, no, no. Republicans who are against "illegal sneaks who are breaking US immigration laws", NOT minorities.


78 posted on 04/02/2006 7:14:04 PM PDT by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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I think McCain got a real head-job done on him back in Vietnam. He's definitely destroyed his Presidential chances among Repubilcans. Look for him to switch parties in 2007 or '08.


80 posted on 04/02/2006 7:14:39 PM PDT by Clock King ("How will it end?" - Emperor; "In Fire." - Kosh)
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Is that a U.S. senator encouraging illegals to break U.S. law?


87 posted on 04/02/2006 7:22:36 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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McCain belongs in a padded cell, not the US Senate let alone the Oval Office.

Round up ALL the illegals and ship 'em back.


88 posted on 04/02/2006 7:23:08 PM PDT by Pittsburg Phil
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Sorry. Before I would vote for McCain (even if it meant a Hillary victory) I dare say myself (and many other Nam Vets)would as soon sit that one out.

After his castigation and denigration of the Swift Boat Vets (even before their book was published)coupled with his stalwart support of the traitorous "Snake" (Kerry) and his refusal to even consider the damage, hurt, pain and suffering, this phony SOB had been directly responsible for (not to mention his overall liberal viewpoints on so many issues and I won't even delve into the POW/MIA issue)would lead me to say: "It would be a cold day in hell ...."
89 posted on 04/02/2006 7:23:46 PM PDT by namvet66
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"The people united will never be defeated!" other demonstrators chanted in Spanish. "We're not going, but Bush can leave!"

But Bush is in favor of them staying! How many other protestors believe this way? How ridiculous!

95 posted on 04/02/2006 7:26:45 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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Sen. John McCain is praising the recent wave of pro-illegal immigration demonstrations,

Good, that ought to put a fork in his chances.

97 posted on 04/02/2006 7:28:53 PM PDT by Pelham (Treason: Not just for Democrats anymore)
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1. Its another one of those things that makes it really hard to like McCain. I'm not one who would refuse to vote for him, as I'd take him over Hillary

McCain = Hillary + penis - testicles.

99 posted on 04/02/2006 7:29:21 PM PDT by Sloth (Archaeologists test for intelligent design all the time.)
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McCain has even went to the extent of criticizing the war in Iraq. He is not a republican or even a RINO, he is a new Democrat.


100 posted on 04/02/2006 7:29:27 PM PDT by Thunder90
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101 posted on 04/02/2006 7:30:49 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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Well, if the next administration and congress, rats, are put in place by a coalition of minorities including supporters of/and illegal aliens, it is into the streets.
115 posted on 04/02/2006 7:50:17 PM PDT by MiHeat
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I've said it before on other threads, so please forgive me if you've seen this before, but it fits here...

The illegal immigration crisis is analogous to a plumbing problem. If the water line to your kitchen sink springs a leak, what do you grab first -- a mop, or a wrench?

The answer, of course, is a wrench (or whatever tools are required to shut off the water while repairs are being made). If you go for the mop first, you'll be mopping forever, as the leak continues to spew.

Thus, with respect to the immigration crisis, all of our attention should first be devoted to securing our borders. Build the walls required first, and then debate whether and on what terms a "guest worker" program, and/or some form of amnesty for illegals already here, should be implemented. In my opinion, a rational case can be made for the former, but not the latter. But let the debate ensue -- after the leak has been taken care of.

With respect to McCain, don't sweat what the mainstream media reports about his chances of being the GOP nominee. At this very early stage, it's just a matter of name recognition to a very disinterested public. McCain is totally unacceptable to "the base" (those who attend Republican caucuses and vote in Republican primaries). He's going nowhere. Now, his fellow Arizonan (and, I'm proud to say, North Carolina native) J.D. Hayworth -- now you're talking!

117 posted on 04/02/2006 7:57:28 PM PDT by southernnorthcarolina (Some people are like Slinkies: totally useless, but fun to throw down a stair.)
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