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Not so Christian (Peacemaker's writings suggest he's anything but a 'devout' Catholic)
Toronto Sun ^ | April 1, 2006 | Michael Coren

Posted on 04/01/2006 7:11:41 AM PST by rickmichaels

My previous column was about the Christian Peacemakers and how enormous amounts of money and time were spent on rescuing them from their largely pointless and acutely political intervention in Iraq.

I also said their ultimately selfish antics distracted from the genuine need to help Iraqis and that because these men were western and middle class, they received special treatment in the media.

A week later, it is clear that Canadian James Loney in particular has been treated with a generosity and credulity that is at times quite bizarre.

Please, in the name of common sense, can we stop claiming that these men were naive? Perhaps foolish, possibly militant, but never naive.

They knew exactly what they were doing and also knew when to hide the truth, for example Loney's silence about his homosexuality when held captive by a gang of less than gay-friendly kidnappers. If they'd ever read Loney's writings in the left-wing Catholic New Times, they would have learned a lot about him.

In one of Loney's essays he is asked by his partner about the gay marriage issue.

"I told him I thought it was an important symbol in the struggle for queer liberation, but it wasn't something I desired for us or had energy to fight for.

"Marriage was a patriarchal institution which evolved historically to protect male property rights and solemnize man's tenure as king of the castle. I told him we needed to develop our own models that grew out of the shared experience of being gay, instead of storming the barricades of heterosexual privilege in the quest for equal rights."

Not exactly loving and non-judgmental language about marriage, is it? In fact, one could conclude that these were the words of some hard-line ideologue.

Then we have this notion that these Christian Peacemakers are devout Christians, with Loney described as a faithful Roman Catholic. Actually, faithful Roman Catholics behave like, well, faithful Roman Catholics.

For example, they may be homosexual, and if they are, they must, of course, be treated with sensitivity.

But if they live a defiantly homosexual lifestyle and reject Church and Biblical teachings on the issue they put themselves outside of Roman Catholicism. Nobody has to be Catholic, but if they claim to be they must try to live up to their word.

Loney's problems with the religion he is supposed to cherish, however, go beyond the moral.

"I avoid prayer like the plague" he has written. "The kind where you stop, sit or kneel, do nothing but be, even if for only ten minutes. The thought of fasting nauseates me, and as for Sunday Mass -- that weekly spiritual re-boot and virus check -- well, let's just say I've accumulated a significant inventory of mortal sins."

The man's patronizing tone is extraordinary. The Mass is, to Catholics, where the body and blood of Jesus Christ are made present for His followers. Again, nobody is obliged to attend each Sunday, but for a Catholic it is essential, and not dependent on arrogant whim. More important, it should be a joy to attend.

As for pacifism, there is peaceful language as well as peaceful action.

"Enemies are unfortunately very real, and they cannot be banished with a little bit of positive thinking", wrote Loney.

"Lovers, neighbours, children, parents, WTO officials, presidents, sexist pigs, red-neck racists, and strangers on dark street corners."

Pigs and rednecks? Children as enemies? Hardly the stuff of empathy and understanding. More like hypocrisy, instability and anger. Christian peacemakers? Let's be realistic. And let's ignore those who play politics and concentrate instead on genuinely stopping war and making the world a better place.


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Editorial; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: apostasy; catholic; christianity; christianpeacemaker; cpthostages; deviance; dupe; fool; homo; homosexualagenda; hostages; iraq; loney; moralabsolutes; wacko; warophobe

1 posted on 04/01/2006 7:11:44 AM PST by rickmichaels
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To: fanfan; GMMAC; Clive

ping!


2 posted on 04/01/2006 7:20:37 AM PST by Daralundy
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3 posted on 04/01/2006 7:27:26 AM PST by fanfan ( We have become the best/biggest news gathering entity in the whole known history of the world.)
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To: Daralundy

They still have not thanked the coalition forces for rescuing them, still insisting on being called 'released'. That is why I have little use for them.


4 posted on 04/01/2006 7:29:07 AM PST by wmileo
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To: rickmichaels

Christian Peacemakers and their kind of Pacifism is objectively pro-enemy. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side you automatically help that of the other.


5 posted on 04/01/2006 7:29:54 AM PST by FreeRep
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To: rickmichaels

Greaaat. More left wing activists in the church.


6 posted on 04/01/2006 7:31:32 AM PST by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: rickmichaels

Also clear, are the facts that only folks who are utterly stupid venture into a war zone without permission, or with the idea they are going to make any difference in what is going on.

2. You don't have a job that requires your attention at times, to retain it.

3. You don't have a lick of common sense.

4. Your politics are not very mainstream.

5. Your feelings have caused you to make some rather serious mistakes in your life.

6. You lack the ability to analyze problems and come to rational solutions.

7. You need a hobby that doesn't involve critical thinking. Something to take your mind off solving the worlds problems when you should be the subject of all your efforts in that direction.


7 posted on 04/01/2006 7:33:30 AM PST by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: rickmichaels
Let's ignore those who play politics and concentrate instead on genuinely stopping war and making the world a better place.

This entire looney thing turns my stomach. The thought that we have young people over there in harms way making a genuine effort to improve the lives of the Iraqi people and this faggot garbage injects itself into the situation in such a way as to waste valuable resources makes me want to puke.

In one of the rare instances when the islamofascist terrorists could actually have performed a valuable service to humanity by sawing off a few heads, they have failed miserably by releasing looney and his friends back into the civilized world.

8 posted on 04/01/2006 7:34:04 AM PST by kimosabe31
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To: rickmichaels
For example, they may be homosexual, and if they are, they must, of course, be treated with sensitivity...But if they live a defiantly homosexual lifestyle and reject Church and Biblical teachings on the issue they put themselves outside of Roman Catholicism. Nobody has to be Catholic, but if they claim to be they must try to live up to their word.

"I avoid prayer like the plague" he has written...The thought of fasting nauseates me, and as for Sunday Mass...well, let's just say I've accumulated a significant inventory of mortal sins."

Many Catholics, including me, fail day after day to live up to the ideals of the Catholic Church. I sincerely hope when I have to pass by the vintner where the grapes of wrath are stored that before he looses the lightning of his sword in my direction that he realizes he wired me a certain way.

Still, I surely don't brag about my inability to choose right in every case. That may be the final destruction of the culture, that we brag about our perversions. It certainly isn't a Christian thing to do.

The Mass is, to Catholics, where the body and blood of Jesus Christ are made present for His followers. Again, nobody is obliged to attend each Sunday, but for a Catholic it is essential, and not dependent on arrogant whim. More important, it should be a joy to attend.

Yesterday I read an editorial by a Jesuit named Father William Byron that stated this principle as eloquently as I think I ever read, and I am an ex-seminarian. The best part of his editorial said: The obligation is not simply to be a sacred space for an hour every Sunday. It is to give praise and thanks to God for the gift of redemption won through Christ's sacrifice, a sacrifice made present again on the altar at every Mass.

I want to think about that each time I attend Mass in the future, starting today. I think I'll take my cue from Byron rather than Loney.

9 posted on 04/01/2006 7:42:59 AM PST by stevem
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To: rickmichaels

Amen to all that.


10 posted on 04/01/2006 7:57:36 AM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: lastchance

Pray rosary is the only choice given by mother mary. pray from heart and you will be happy. you give thank to Jesus coz' He gave his mother mary to US.


11 posted on 04/01/2006 8:06:19 AM PST by plck
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To: rickmichaels

Is anyone surprised at this odious little creature's lack of moral foundation?

He is typical of his kind, in my experience.


12 posted on 04/01/2006 8:10:15 AM PST by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: plck

I love our Mother.


13 posted on 04/01/2006 8:16:07 AM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: rickmichaels; little jeremiah; DirtyHarryY2K; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Liz; devolve; PhilDragoo

Thanks for posting this.

Just more proof that left wing maggot infested lunatics professing to be Christians are not what they profess to be.

"Loney's problems with the religion he is supposed to cherish, however, go beyond the moral."

"I avoid prayer like the plague" he has written. "The kind where you stop, sit or kneel, do nothing but be, even if for only ten minutes. The thought of fasting nauseates me, and as for Sunday Mass -- that weekly spiritual re-boot and virus check -- well, let's just say I've accumulated a significant inventory of mortal sins."


14 posted on 04/01/2006 8:25:30 AM PST by Grampa Dave (How long has the NY Slimes, Compost, and LA Slimes been Enroning (cooking) their books?)
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To: rickmichaels

So he's not really a Christian (just another apostate mole), and not really a Peacemaker (just another pro-enemy activist troublemaker).

But he IS definitely a Looney!


15 posted on 04/01/2006 8:27:33 AM PST by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: rickmichaels; wita
Thanks for the post. Perhaps I should purchase a Toronto Sun more often. I usually toddle up to the local corner store for the National Post.

Our local newspaper almost exploded with the unreserved joy at a "homegrown hero", not their exact words though. We had four days of coverage and large photographs.

For some unknown reason though, a cartoon by Greg Page did get printed. It suggested Loney needed to get into "commonsense". This in the words of a middle aged couple watching his image on T/V. A solid and blistering readers letter was published,criticising Mr Loney. About four letters oohed and aahed with platitudes about love and kindness. Could it be that PC cowed other letter writers? I suppose John Lennon HAS left his mark. What if? sang Lennon. He left a quarter billion dollars to his wife though.

To get employment in Sault Ste Marie,Ontario can sometimes be a brutal business. Not the city's fault. People have tried to move mountains to get jobs.

Yes, the thought struck me as I read of Loney's proclivities,not of his incarceration. Herewith thought.

It sure beats WORKING.

16 posted on 04/01/2006 8:27:41 AM PST by Peter Libra
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To: sionnsar

This left wing/homosexual hater of America sounds like the perfect candidate to be a left wing homosexual Bishop.

"Loney's problems with the religion he is supposed to cherish, however, go beyond the moral."

"I avoid prayer like the plague" he has written. "The kind where you stop, sit or kneel, do nothing but be, even if for only ten minutes. The thought of fasting nauseates me, and as for Sunday Mass -- that weekly spiritual re-boot and virus check -- well, let's just say I've accumulated a significant inventory of mortal sins."


17 posted on 04/01/2006 8:28:02 AM PST by Grampa Dave (How long has the NY Slimes, Compost, and LA Slimes been Enroning (cooking) their books?)
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To: wita

And you have to be agreeable to being identified as a useful idiot when your cover is exposed. Who pays for these dim bulbs to go running around the world???


18 posted on 04/01/2006 8:34:55 AM PST by pepperdog
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To: Daralundy; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; coteblanche; Ryle; albertabound; mitchbert; ..

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19 posted on 04/01/2006 12:15:14 PM PST by Clive
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To: rickmichaels
I questioned this from the start. Calling yourselves "Christian Peacekeepers" is kind of like calling a football team "Football Players Team". I could be wrong, but this article and their ingratitude throws up a lot of red fags, I mean flags.
20 posted on 04/01/2006 6:32:27 PM PST by stevio (Red-Blooded Crunchy Con, American Male (NRA))
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To: rickmichaels
The Mass is, to Catholics, where the body and blood of Jesus Christ are made present for His followers. Again, nobody is obliged to attend each Sunday...

The hell you aren't. You're required to attend every Sunday, and every Holy Day of Obligation, too. Otherwise it's a mortal sin.

21 posted on 04/01/2006 6:37:38 PM PST by BlessedBeGod (Benedict XVI = Terminator IV)
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To: kimosabe31
In one of the rare instances when the islamofascist terrorists could actually have performed a valuable service to humanity by sawing off a few heads, they have failed miserably by releasing looney and his friends back into the civilized world.

Which, of course, is exactly why they did it...

the infowarrior

22 posted on 04/01/2006 7:54:58 PM PST by infowarrior (The GOP runs the US, the Dems run their mouths... Freeper HardStarboard)
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To: Grampa Dave
This left wing/homosexual hater of America sounds like the perfect candidate to be a left wing homosexual Bishop.

There has, in the U.S., been a drift of such from the Roman Catholics to ECUSA. How big it is I don't know, but once or thrice I've heard of such.

23 posted on 04/01/2006 7:56:14 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Libs: Celebrate MY diversity! | Iran Azadi 2006)
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To: NYer

ping.


24 posted on 04/02/2006 7:37:24 AM PDT by bourbon (the latest protests in France = slacker intifada!)
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To: sionnsar

"There has, in the U.S., been a drift of such from the Roman Catholics to ECUSA. How big it is I don't know, but once or thrice I've heard of such."

Some of the drifters claim to be members, others are playing the role of Priest or Bishop.


25 posted on 04/02/2006 8:17:01 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (How long has the NY Slimes, Compost, and LA Slimes been Enroning (cooking) their books?)
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...
CINO Alert!

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26 posted on 04/02/2006 10:14:56 AM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: NYer
LOL.

I remember that cartoon.

Still amusing.

:)

27 posted on 04/02/2006 10:19:28 AM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: rickmichaels

James Loney (born 1964) is a (gay) Canadian peace activist, who has worked for several years with Christian Peacemaker Teams in Iraq and Palestine.

Loney was born and raised in Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario. During his late teens he worked as a counsellor at Columbus Boys' Camp near Orillia, Ontario, on Lake Simcoe. (This is a summer camp for underprivileged boys, funded by the Knights of Columbus and staffed by senior high school students from various schools run by the Basilian Fathers.)


Christian Peacemaker (Getting in the Way of an Israeli tank demolishing Hebron's Palestinian vegetable market)


"Christian Peacemaker Teams maintains a constant international presence in At-Tuwani, to document the harassment suffered by villagers at the hands of solders and settlers."


"CPT is a peacemaking organization focussed on reducing violence and protecting human rights in conflict zones. CPT does not participate in any missionary activities. Christian Peacemaker Teams was founded in 1984 by three historic peace churches, Mennonite, Church of the Brethren and Quaker"

"Teams engage in regular spiritual reflection."


We are one of only a few groups that considers its mission to be the placement of trained peace workers in explosive situations for sustained periods of time to do "third party nonviolent intervention."


A prayer vigil brings the search for truth into the public place. Prayer vigils are not times to show off one's spirituality.


"Our experience is that violence can be disarmed with the witness to peace, truth, love and justice. The willingness to give life instead of taking life is very powerful."


http://cpt.org/corps.php

28 posted on 04/02/2006 10:37:59 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: rickmichaels; fanfan; infowarrior
They shouldn't have even been there in the first place.

Does anyone notice the contradiction between purported sympathizers for Islamic terrorists embarking upon a mission to proselytize pious, Iraqi Muslims?

If they really supported Al Qaeda, then they would realized that they are the very missionaries/crusaders that Al Qaeda is attempting to exertiminate, and just stayed home.

Does this story sound fishy to anyone else here?

29 posted on 04/02/2006 10:40:18 AM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: rickmichaels

You ain't a s*****g!

They seemed so full of vile and selfimportance it mad me sick.


30 posted on 04/02/2006 10:43:23 AM PDT by truemiester (If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years)
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To: rickmichaels
Two years ago, shortly before the Abu Ghraib prison scandal, CPT published a lengthy report alleging that U.S. forces were abusing detainees. CPT co-director Doug Pritchard told the BBC: "We were the first to publicly denounce the torture of the Iraqi people held by occupation forces." The organization has called for an end to what it still calls the occupation.

Doug Pritchard said even though CPT believes those soldiers are doing wrong by taking part in war


"We believe that the illegal occupation of Iraq by Multinational Forces is the root cause of the insecurity which led to this kidnapping and so much pain and suffering in Iraq.”


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Authors
Doug Pritchard

Our Vision
The vision of Every Church A Peace Church is the formation of new peace churches and the transformation of war-justifying churches into peace churches, so that the world will be turned toward peace as churches live and teach as Jesus lived and taught. We envision thousands of churches making The Peace Church Affirmation:

The Peace Church Affirmation

Following Jesus in nonviolent struggle for justice and peace, we love our neighbors and enemies as God loves us all, becoming a peace church to share in God’s work to save the world.


http://ecapc.org/associates.asp

31 posted on 04/02/2006 10:50:22 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Grampa Dave

Those who drift that way are welcome to go. Sinful Catholics should at least admit we are such.


32 posted on 04/02/2006 10:58:35 AM PDT by steve8714 (Burn Peugeot, burn.)
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To: kimosabe31
"In one of the rare instances when the islamofascist terrorists could actually have performed a valuable service to humanity by sawing off a few heads, they have failed miserably by releasing looney and his friends back into the civilized world."

Awesome! Standing O here...

33 posted on 04/02/2006 11:06:11 AM PDT by redhead (www.opinions3.com and http://halfbakedsourdough.blogspot.com, if you would like to read more...)
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To: BlessedBeGod

This guys's a Catholic???

2042 The first precept ("You shall attend Mass on Sundays and holy days of obligation and rest from servile labor") requires the faithful to sanctify the day commemorating the Resurrection of the Lord as well as the principal liturgical feasts honoring the mysteries of the Lord, the Blessed Virgin Mary, and the saints; in the first place, by participating in the Eucharistic celebration, in which the Christian community is gathered, and by resting from those works and activities which could impede such a sanctification of these days.82

The second precept ("You shall confess your sins at least once a year") ensures preparation for the Eucharist by the reception of the sacrament of reconciliation, which continues Baptism's work of conversion and forgiveness.83

The third precept ("You shall receive the sacrament of the Eucharist at least during the Easter season") guarantees as a minimum the reception of the Lord's Body and Blood in connection with the Paschal feasts, the origin and center of the Christian liturgy.84


34 posted on 04/02/2006 1:37:04 PM PDT by Brytani (Someone stole my tagline - reward for its return!!!)
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