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Hostages were 'dupes,' Iraq says
CanWest News Service ^ | March 25, 2006 | Mary Vallis and Stewart Bell

Posted on 03/25/2006 2:11:27 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

Iraq's embassy to Canada lashed out at the Christian Peacemaker Teams Friday, calling them "phoney pacifists" and "dupes" after the antiwar group responded to the rescue of three of its kidnapped activists by condemning the U.S.-led military intervention in Iraq.

The Iraqi embassy called CPT "willfully ignorant" and "outrageous," and accused the Chicago-based group of being on the side of anti- democratic forces in Iraq.

"The Christian Peacemaker Teams practises the kind of politics that automatically nominate them as dupes for jihadism and fascism," the embassy's statement said.

A British-led special forces team on Thursday rescued three CPT members, who had been kidnapped in Baghdad nearly four months earlier.

They included James Loney, 41, of Toronto; Harmeet Singh Sooden, 33, a Canadian who had been living in New Zealand; and British national Norman Kember, 74. The body of a fourth hostage, American Tom Fox, was found dumped earlier this month.

The day of the rescue, CPT issued a statement blaming the "illegal occupation" of Iraq for the kidnapping. The group said the hostages were "motivated by a passion for justice and peace to live out a non-violent alternative in a nation wracked by armed conflict."

"They knew that their only protection was in the power of the love of God and of their Iraqi and international co-workers," CPT's statement said. "We believe that the illegal occupation of Iraq by multinational forces is the root cause of the insecurity which led to this kidnapping and so much pain and suffering in Iraq. The occupation must end."

The Daily Telegraph in London is reporting today that the Christian activists refused to fully co-operate with an intelligence unit sent to debrief them. Based on an interview with a security source, the newspaper claims the activists said co-operating would contradict their Christian principles.

Kember, the British hostage, left Iraq for the United Kingdom Friday. The Canadians are expected to leave Baghdad today, according to Maxine Nash, a CPT worker in Baghdad. Sooden is headed to New Zealand, where his family lives, while Loney will return to Ontario.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper confirmed the hostages are headed home, but would not say when they would arrive.

"They're still in Iraq. I really can't tell you a lot more. They're coming home on the weekend," Harper said in Ottawa.

The prime minister refused to give more details of how the three men were freed.

"No length of time would allow me to release those details," he said. New details did emerge Friday about the men's treatment during their confinement. Nash said the men struggled to communicate with their captors. Only Fox spoke a small amount of Arabic, so they used hand signals.

The men also said they had not been physically abused: They were given food and kept somewhat warm during the long winter. The main problem they encountered during 118 days of captivity, Nash said, was boredom.

"If you're sitting there day after day with nothing to do, that must be a pretty boring thing," Nash said. "There were certainly times when they were fearful, mostly because of the unknown -- for example, when Tom Fox was taken and not returned."

Fox, the American hostage, disappeared from the group on Feb. 12, Nash said. The hostages were initially under the impression he had been freed, but realized he may have met another fate after catching a glimpse of his face on television.

The hostages did not learn for certain Fox was dead until after their release.

CPT workers in Iraq are also denying rumours Fox was tortured before he was killed. Nash cited two unidentified "independent sources" who said the American had been shot in the head and chest, but had not been tortured.


TOPICS: Canada; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antiamerican; antiwar; christianpeacemaker; collaborators; cpthostages; dupes; hostages; iraq; kember; peacenikscum; tomfox

1 posted on 03/25/2006 2:11:28 PM PST by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

:)


2 posted on 03/25/2006 2:14:29 PM PST by kajingawd (Humans share 50.6% of their DNA with bananas.... I can't wait for the next Evolution.)
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To: Mo1; Howlin; onyx

FYI


3 posted on 03/25/2006 2:15:56 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Nash cited two unidentified "independent sources" who said the American had been shot in the head and chest, but had not been tortured.

Guess that makes it alright in the minds of these numbskulls.

Glad to see the Iraqi Embassy gets it; the hostages are dupes, aiding and abetting Jihadists who are h*ll bent to kill them someday.

4 posted on 03/25/2006 2:16:04 PM PST by A message
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To: West Coast Conservative

How should we define these "Christian pacifists"? Useful idiots, or useless idiots? I don't think Christianity teaches ingratitude and treason.


5 posted on 03/25/2006 2:16:15 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: West Coast Conservative

They totally refused to debrief with those who RESCUED them? grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


6 posted on 03/25/2006 2:16:16 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: West Coast Conservative

"Phoney pacificts"and "dupes" aka usefull idiots.BTW,has anyone heard from Jill Carroll(sp?)lately?


7 posted on 03/25/2006 2:16:18 PM PST by Thombo2
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To: West Coast Conservative
"The Christian Peacemaker Teams practises the kind of politics that automatically nominate them as dupes for jihadism and fascism,"

Outstanding response!!

8 posted on 03/25/2006 2:16:52 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: West Coast Conservative
The men also said they had not been physically abused

Uh...what do they call what happened to Tom Fox...a tickle game gone bad?

Fools....

9 posted on 03/25/2006 2:17:46 PM PST by tsmith130
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To: West Coast Conservative

How do you enter Iraq without a visa? Why not simply reject visas for these people?


10 posted on 03/25/2006 2:18:31 PM PST by SampleMan
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To: West Coast Conservative

Next time they can bring their own rescue team!


11 posted on 03/25/2006 2:18:49 PM PST by SIRTRIS
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To: West Coast Conservative
So it appears that American troops weren't involved in he "rescue". That's good. Also, the American member of their group won't have the opportunity to come back to America and sing praises for his captors. That's good, too.
12 posted on 03/25/2006 2:21:09 PM PST by isrul
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To: West Coast Conservative
I think the term that the Iraqi's are looking for is colaborator.
13 posted on 03/25/2006 2:21:18 PM PST by Navy Patriot
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To: Thombo2

Suppose you lost a family member or friend in that rescue mission. How would you feel? What would you do?


14 posted on 03/25/2006 2:21:38 PM PST by TET1968
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To: fanfan; GMMAC; Clive

nitwit ping!


15 posted on 03/25/2006 2:22:21 PM PST by Daralundy
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To: A message
Nash cited two unidentified "independent sources" who said the American had been shot in the head and chest, but had not been tortured.

Guess that makes it alright in the minds of these numbskulls.

They could have done something truely horrible and made them put underwear on their heads. Instead they did the humane thing and shot them.

16 posted on 03/25/2006 2:22:34 PM PST by Always Right
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To: West Coast Conservative
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17 posted on 03/25/2006 2:23:20 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: bboop
They totally refused to debrief with those who RESCUED them? grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

I can't say I blame them. They were probably justifiably worried about self incrimination. That and the fact that they are leftist ingrates.

18 posted on 03/25/2006 2:23:42 PM PST by magslinger (Pray for your enemies, It's like taking a B52 to a gun fight.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
"The Daily Telegraph in London is reporting today that the Christian activists refused to fully co-operate with an intelligence unit sent to debrief them. Based on an interview with a security source, the newspaper claims the activists said co-operating would contradict their Christian principles."

Does being tortured and murdered contradict their
"Christian principles" to?

19 posted on 03/25/2006 2:25:08 PM PST by StormEye
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To: tsmith130

Waiting for the Fox family response....................


20 posted on 03/25/2006 2:29:31 PM PST by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

That's a keeper. Stole it!


21 posted on 03/25/2006 2:30:45 PM PST by tsmith130
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To: Always Right
They could have done something truely horrible and made them put underwear on their heads.

How could I forget.

Skivies on the scalp. The most heinous torture of the 21st century.

Please pull my fingernails loose or feed me to the wood chipper but don't put skivies on my scalp.

22 posted on 03/25/2006 2:32:48 PM PST by A message
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To: West Coast Conservative

These Christian Peacemakers are diagnosed by Dr. Sanity, under the heading "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished":
http://drsanity.blogspot.com/


23 posted on 03/25/2006 2:35:21 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: West Coast Conservative
The hostages did not learn for certain Fox was dead until after their release.

And still, these Christian "activists" protect - which is aiding - the terrorists. Why is it that these people treat or side with the terrorists as if we were the ones in the wrong? Is their self-worth so low that they think deliberatley seeking out and being 'loving and kind' towards the devil while repudiating their rescuers somehow makes them something of worth?

24 posted on 03/25/2006 2:35:49 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Perhaps all of the peacenicks of the world should go to Iraq and be captured.

Then if they don't learn how evil the Muslim/Terrorists are, we will at least be rid of them.

It's astounding that after four months with their captors, they can still think WE are the enemy! Amazing

25 posted on 03/25/2006 2:36:29 PM PST by FixitGuy
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

26 posted on 03/25/2006 2:36:59 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: TET1968
If I lost a family member or a friend on that rescue mission I would feel sad. IS that what you are curious about? Or are you trying to get at something else.

I'll tell you right now, it's a disgrace that these civilians acting as Christian "missionaries" put themselves in a hostile war environment where if captured they will no doubt be used as a political tool by the enemy. And when that happens, they blame whom? Maybe the Jihadist, maybe themselves for going there, no no they blame the people who rescued them.

Christian missionaries? so what ever happened to "respect for other's religions and cultures" anyway. Cultural diversity? Imposing your way of life on others. You are a liberal hypocrite.
27 posted on 03/25/2006 2:37:58 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell
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To: SIRTRIS
Next time they can bring their own rescue team!

works for me.

Why should the troops jeopardize their lives for these traitors. DON"T LET them IN.

28 posted on 03/25/2006 2:38:21 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: maine-iac7
Is their self-worth so low that they think deliberatley seeking out and being 'loving and kind' towards the devil while repudiating their rescuers somehow makes them something of worth?

Your observation pretty much nails it.

29 posted on 03/25/2006 2:41:40 PM PST by A message
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To: West Coast Conservative
the activists said co-operating would contradict their Christian principles.

By refusing to give information that could lead to the rescue of the other hostages taken by these same people - who may die because of it........What "Christian" principle does that uphold?

If these other hostages do die - I hope these traitors will be able to see the indelible word "killer" on their forehead each day, for the rest of their days, when they look in the mirror.

30 posted on 03/25/2006 2:46:05 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: BigSkyFreeper


Thanks for the ping.


31 posted on 03/25/2006 2:48:31 PM PST by onyx (Elections are in November, 06 ---- 08 can wait!)
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To: fanfan; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; Ryle; ...

PING!
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32 posted on 03/25/2006 2:52:05 PM PST by GMMAC (paraphrasing Parrish: "damned Liberals, I hate those bastards!")
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To: isrul

Before you know it these sick people will be blaming the Americans for Fox's murder.

And how do these fools know Fox was not tortured.

I think these fools need to be sent a huge bill and shunned.


33 posted on 03/25/2006 2:58:20 PM PST by Patriot from Philly
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To: West Coast Conservative

Loney needs one more o in his name. Looney


34 posted on 03/25/2006 3:00:16 PM PST by 359Henrie (NASA needs one more moon rock, its in Mecca.)
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To: rlmorel

Ha ha!! You got caught stealing!!!


35 posted on 03/25/2006 3:02:55 PM PST by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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To: GMMAC

Thanks for the ping, GMMAC!


36 posted on 03/25/2006 3:04:08 PM PST by fanfan ( "We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality" - Ayn Rand)
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To: West Coast Conservative

"The Christian Peacemaker Teams practises the kind of politics that automatically nominate them as dupes for jihadism and fascism," the embassy's statement said.

&&
Indeed!


37 posted on 03/25/2006 3:21:41 PM PST by Bigg Red (Never trust Democrats with national security.)
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To: TET1968

If the friend or family member(lost)was a part of the rescue operation,i'd be pretty po'd.What would i do?Not much i could do,but i certainly question the wisdom or efficacy of rescuing people who for all intents and purposes are the enemy.


38 posted on 03/25/2006 3:25:07 PM PST by Thombo2
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To: nutmeg

Ungrateful terrorist collaborators


39 posted on 03/25/2006 3:25:07 PM PST by Bigg Red (Never trust Democrats with national security.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

The term Christian covers a wide umbrella. My guess is that most of this organization are new age using Christian as a front.

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


40 posted on 03/25/2006 3:30:38 PM PST by bray (Proud Bushbot for 6 years going on 8)
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To: West Coast Conservative; zot; Interesting Times; SeraphimApprentice

I hope this gets play but I know the MSM won't touch it.


41 posted on 03/25/2006 3:33:13 PM PST by GreyFriar ((3rd Armored Division -- Spearhead))
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To: bboop

Debrief? They won't even use the term "rescue". Their statements and website keep talking about their "release", as though the Islamoterrorists just let them go because they're nice folks, not because SAS troops put bullets in them.


42 posted on 03/25/2006 3:34:52 PM PST by mak5
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To: West Coast Conservative
their only protection was in the power of the love of God and of their Iraqi and international co-workers

....which is really fortunate. Otherwise a bunch of those mean military people might have had to come rescue them.

43 posted on 03/25/2006 3:43:09 PM PST by ArmstedFragg
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To: West Coast Conservative

Its still not to late to recapture them ourselves and turn them over to the jihadis.


44 posted on 03/25/2006 4:32:31 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: mak5

We should set them loose in Baghdad again, then... Til they learn how to use their Magic Words.


45 posted on 03/25/2006 5:32:03 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Patriot from Philly

I think Fox was tortured, just knowing our raghead friends, and that it is being kept under wraps. To be released a year from now or so.


46 posted on 03/25/2006 5:33:20 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: sit-rep

Guilty as charged, Sir...:)


47 posted on 03/25/2006 8:16:57 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
ping! (Thanks for the heads up, Bigg Red)

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

48 posted on 03/26/2006 9:33:53 PM PST by nutmeg (NEVER trust democRATs with our national security)
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To: Cicero

And how un-Christian, not to cooperate for debriefings that might help rescue other hostages?


49 posted on 03/26/2006 9:51:05 PM PST by YaYa123
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To: West Coast Conservative
"The Christian Peacemaker Teams practises the kind of politics that automatically nominate them as dupes for jihadism and fascism," the embassy's statement said.

Blunt, and correct.

50 posted on 03/26/2006 10:04:15 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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