Posted on 03/24/2006 1:48:49 AM PST by rmlew
I posted Robert Locke’s report last October indicating that the once seriously anti-Semitic British National Party has been in the process of reforming itself, and I quoted at length a column by BNP chairman Nick Griffin last December in which he criticized anti-Semitism at length. However, I also heard that Griffin socialized with David Duke and other Nazi types at the end of the recent American Renaissance conference. Some people tried to excuse this by saying, “How can he reform these people unless he talks with them?” The excuse didn’t work with me; were we really to believe that Griffin was spending time with Duke to try to convince him to be less anti-Semitic?
Well, based on this long article by Griffin published this week, perhaps he was. As distant observers of, not participants in, the anti-Semitic right, we need to be realistic about these things. Many people on the white right are distasteful or worse. Yet it is precisely such people that Griffin is arguing against, and in order to argue against them he needs to take their beliefs seriously enough to discuss them. He needs to discuss, for example, the moonbat anti-Semitism—embraced by Duke and many other “far whitists”—that sides with Muslims because the Jewish neocons are (supposedly) against Muslims. In the same article Griffin tries to persuade the anti-Semites in his own ranks that Muslims, not the Jews, are the real threat. You and I may not want to hang out with the people who hang out with the people Griffin is addressing, but the fact remains that if Griffin can rid his movement of the more serious anti-Semitism and get his followers to focus on the real threat to the West, that is obviously all to the good.
Unlike BNP, American Renaissance has never been anti-Semitic. But Jared Taylor has never criticized anti-Semitism either. Thus, ironically, Nick Griffin of the rough-neck reputation is now more of an anti-anti-Semite than the famously civil Jared Taylor, who has always had Jews subscribing to AR and attending AR conferences.
The Griffin article is about turning the bizarre anti-Semitic thought process into something more reasonable. Instead of reactively supporting Muslims because neoconservatives oppose them, Griffin is recognizing that the West’s (so-far) neocon-led confrontation with Muslims is increasing tensions with Muslims, which is helping wake up the West to the Muslim danger. Thus he writes:
Clearly the neo-cons/oil companies/vain or stupid politicians, etc hope that they can have their Clash in the Middle East without paying any price closer to home. Perhaps they can pull this off, but past historical examples and a commonsense appraisal of the situation suggest this is very unlikely. The price they could easily pay for that war propaganda and pressure for the West to do their bidding in Middle East could be to so destabilise multi-racial Western societies that nationalists will stand a real chance of winning political power.A VFR reader comments about the above: “This is very well said. The Bush administration has, probably inadvertently, made the situation (war/immigration) worse and created the conditions for a backlash.”
Our job is not to apportion blame for the chaos, but to position ourselves so as to take maximum advantage of it. There is no point standing like King Canute, ordering the tide to go and flood a different beach; rather, we must ride the wave of public opinion and harness its power for our own use.
Another reader writes:
Apparently the people over at Stormfront are none too pleased with Nick Griffin’s article. They’re saying essentially that he’s no different from GWB now:Again, some readers may be offended that I am even taking notice of such people as Stormfront followers, but the interesting fact remains that Griffin’s criticisms of anti-Semitism and of Islam have opened up a divide on the white right.
Well, we certainly now know what Nick Griffin thinks about us Americans, if we didn’t already.
Plainly speaking, I’m not a bit fond of a British Nationalist telling us Americans how we HAVE to do things in our country. Obviously NG doesn’t have a clue as to the stranglehold that the two party system has on us. If he has a remedy for that, I’d love to hear it.
And,
The whites you say “are responsible” (Rumsfeld-Bush) are taking money from the Jews who run the Federal Reserve (Greenspan) banking system.
What is the difference, now, between Griffin and Bush?
Big question, take your time answering it.
And,
If Islam is Nick’s peeve, perhaps he should join the Clergy.
Concentrate on Race, not Class or Religion.
Arabs and Jews are Semetic.
So, if they hate each other aren't they both anti-Semetic?
I am an Irish-Catholic from New York City and don't we have the same assinine proplem with the Brit's.
Aren't we all fighting a fight taht doesn't need to be fought?
I am an Irish-Catholic from New York City and don't we have the same assinine proplem with the Brit's.
No. The British are not trying to conquer the world, enf enforce Anglicanism and Aglican law on the subjugated.
Moreover, the English incursions in Ireland began under the Plantagenant kings, when England and Ireland were both Catholic. The fight only became religious, when England became protestant. Even then I would note that the IRA was founded by Irish Protestants.
Aren't we all fighting a fight taht doesn't need to be fought?
Do you wish that your children be forced to chose between conversion to Islam, or pray that they will only be relegated to dhimmi status?
Muslims believe it their sacred duty to conquer the world.
Muslims believe it their sacred duty to conquer the world.
So did the Communist Socialist Republic of Russia, but I do agree ............
the Muslims will do what the Soviets would never do and that is attack first.
So, that means we must start killing people and how do we start and where can I get some ammo?
Interestingly the German antisemititism of the 30ties and 40ties had a soley racial and no religious basement. Although Hitler used some Arabs and Muslims in a few SS units (mainly for propaganda purposes - their contribution to German warfare was not important). They (the Arabs) were simply "Untermenschen" (Subhumans) for him and his vassals. The nazi leaders never emphasized on this (because they were not interested to have even more enemies), but they all were thinking this way, since the Arabs belong to the semitic tribes.
A silly, meaningless argument. From the Merriam-Webster dictionary..
Main Entry: an·ti-Sem·i·tism Pronunciation: "an-ti-'se-m&-"ti-z&m, "an-"tI- Function: noun : hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group - an·ti-Se·mit·ic /-s&-'mi-tik/ adjective - an·ti-Sem·ite /-'se-"mIt/ noun
The problem with the racial/civilizational right is that it subordinates G-d to other matters. That is why it is inherently anti-monotheistic and anti-Semitic. The whole concept of mere "kinship" above and beyond all other considerations is that it is inherently polygenistic and encourages the view of religion as the subjective symbols of a particular civilization. Thus each civilization creates its its own "true religion" that is "true" for it, and there is no absolute, universal, abstract religious truth to which all are bound.
It is precisely for this reason that the racial/civilizational right is so vehemently anti-Jewish and anti-Zionist. Anti-Semitism isn't racism; it's anti-clericalism (since the Jews are the clergy of the human race). So long as the Jews remain scattered throughout the world HaShem's role as the only True G-d is hidden and the nations of the world can create their own myths and pretend they are true. But when the Jews come home HaShem begins to make His Presence known and the myths of the nations begin to crumble. Hence the otherwise idiotic association in the racial right's mind of "Zionism and race-mixing."
Jared Taylor, like Karl Marx, doesn't believe in G-d. He derives his values from some other source. He may have no objections to people who believe in G-d but he clearly believes that this belief should be utilitarian and used to support some prior belief system.
True monotheism refuses to recognize multiple loyalties. There is only the True G-d; everything else is illusion. It isn't "G-d-family-country;" it's just G-d--period! G-d defines what is right and what is wrong, what is desirable and what is not; what is real and what is illusion. As a Theonomic positivist, I regard all non-Theistically based beliefs or philosophies as essentially no different from Communism--whose fault is simply (like Taylor) that it creates a moral/ethical philosophy apart from G-d's decrees!
Griffin is an opportunistic whore with a clever eye for the pr spin. He recognises that positioning his party in this way will appeal to certain people outside of the traditional national front/football hooligan base. Don't believe a word of it.
"traditional national front/football hooligan base"
Where have you been Mr Siberia? Still stuck in a timewarp?
Are you saying that that isn't the traditional base of the BNP? I don't understand your point.
Yes i am, over the past decade the BNP have been *weeding out* the *bad apple's* and rightly so imo. You only have to witness the percentage of the vote they recieve to back up this claim.
Yes i am, over the past decade the BNP have been *weeding out* the *bad apple's* and rightly so imo. You only have to witness the percentage of the vote they recieve to back up this claim.
"Yes i am"
No you're not, especially as the remainder of your sentence says that the BNP has been 'weeding out' the people who you apparantly claim weren't there in the first place!
If someone break's the law whilst being a member of the party they are dismissed after a internal hearing, if the board believes a dismissal is warranted.Unlike *OPWTN* who more than often encourage it!!
"Muslims believe it their sacred duty to conquer the world."
BINGO!!! For those who fail to see this, or refuse to believe it, I submit the following:
"In opposition to all his kin shall he encamp."
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