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How Iraq hostages were freed [US-captured terrorist "talked"]
BBC News on line ^ | March 23, 2006 | Unsigned

Posted on 03/23/2006 12:57:40 PM PST by aculeus

Briton Norman Kember and his Canadian colleagues James Loney and Harmeet Singh Sooden were freed after a multinational military raid acting on information provided by a detainee, the US military says.

The rescue was completed without any shots being fired and with no kidnappers present, suggesting the operation was carefully planned and carried out.

But the crucial bit of intelligence that enabled the rescue came only after two men were captured by US forces on Wednesday night.

One of the suspects had the information which led officials to the Baghdad house where the hostages were four months into their ordeal.

"We got that information at 0800 (0500 GMT) this morning and we conducted the operation," said Maj Gen Rick Lynch.

"We moved to the location in western Baghdad that was reported for the location of the Christian Peacemaker Team.

"We conducted an assault on the house and inside the house we found the three hostages, in good condition.

"There were no kidnappers there at the time. The three hostages were by themselves."

The hostages were bound, he said.

Hostage James Loney reportedly confirmed that one person had led the forces to where they were held.

In a telephone conversation with a friend, Mr Loney is said to have described the kidnappers as a criminal gang.

Gen Lynch described the men thought to be responsible as "a kidnapping cell that has been robust over the last several months in conducting these kind of kidnappings".

Textbook operation

Multinational special forces, police negotiators and Iraqi intermediaries were understood to have taken part in the rescue, says the BBC's security correspondent Frank Gardner.

It was a textbook operation, our correspondent says.

The mission was spearheaded by British troops with the participation of forces from other coalition countries in Iraq.

"This was several weeks in the planning. It was an operation that was rolling, in a sense that it went on for some time," said the UK's Defence Secretary John Reid.

The multinational team included representatives from the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.

"Other agencies from Canada - they did a terrific job with us as well as the Americans," UK Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said.

The foreign secretary said civilians had been involved in the operation "in the background".

Announcing the hostage release in London, Mr Straw said: "Mercifully no shots were fired."

This was clearly a major success for the British-led force, says the BBC's defence correspondent Rob Watson.

Although foreign hostages have been freed in Iraq before, most were released as the result of secret negotiations, many involving the payment of ransom money, our correspondent adds.

But the body of the fourth member of the Christian Peacemaker Teams - US hostage Tom Fox - was found dumped in Baghdad nearly two weeks ago.

Kidnap victims

At least about 43 foreigners are still being held in Iraq.

And it is thought some 10 to 30 Iraqis are kidnapped every day - most of them for ransom.

Overall more than 400 foreigners have been taken hostage since the US-led invasion - about 55 of them have been killed by their captors.

But it does appear fewer foreigners are now being taken and fewer killed, says our correspondent.

Story from BBC NEWS:

Published: 2006/03/23 14:53:21 GMT

© BBC MMVI


TOPICS: Extended News; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: christianpeacemaker; cpt; fox; harmeetsinghsooden; harmeetsooden; hostages; iraq; jamesloney; kember; leftwingnuts; loney; normankember; prisonerabuse; rescue; singhsooden; sooden; tomfox
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Mercifully no shots were fired
Jack Straw
UK Foreign Secretary


1 posted on 03/23/2006 12:57:42 PM PST by aculeus
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To: aculeus
But the crucial bit of intelligence that enabled the rescue came only after two men were captured by US forces on Wednesday night.

One of the suspects had the information which led officials to the Baghdad house where the hostages were four months into their ordeal.

2 posted on 03/23/2006 12:58:33 PM PST by aculeus
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To: aculeus
One of the suspects had the information which led officials to the Baghdad house where the hostages were four months into their ordeal

Must have pantied the poor saps.

3 posted on 03/23/2006 1:03:18 PM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: aculeus

The next time these "hostages" are found, don't waste your time "rescuing" them.

It seems they don't want to be rescued.


4 posted on 03/23/2006 1:04:49 PM PST by Only1choice____Freedom (I alone, am the chosen one. Because I alone, did the choosing.)
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To: aculeus

bttt


5 posted on 03/23/2006 1:05:15 PM PST by txhurl
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To: aculeus

Related...

http://exposingtheleft.blogspot.com/2006/03/troops-free-three-western-hostages-in.html


6 posted on 03/23/2006 1:05:43 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: aculeus

Perhaps they played clips of Hillary Clinton shrieking until the suspects talked.


7 posted on 03/23/2006 1:05:48 PM PST by rightinthemiddle (Islamic Terrorists, the Mainstream Media and the Democrat Party Have the Same Goals in Iraq.)
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To: Only1choice____Freedom

I've heard the "spokeswoman" on the radio but I haven't heard from the hostages themselves. I'll reserve judgement on them untilI get their statements and not the publicist of the group. In other words, until I hear from them, I won't take their moonbat "spokeswomans" words for theirs. Has anyone heard words directly from them?


8 posted on 03/23/2006 1:09:30 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: neodad
You beat me to it, sir.

Something doesn't add up though, and it bugs me.
The hostages just sitting there with zero guards, or even anyone around? - I don't buy it.

Someone had to have already abandoned the area, knowing that forces were coming.

But they didn't kill the captives first, even after they tortured and murdered another?

Hmm... Something is missing here.
9 posted on 03/23/2006 1:09:53 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: aculeus
The three hostages were by themselves."

They probably already assured the kidnappers that they would say all the right things after being rescued, so why not?

10 posted on 03/23/2006 1:10:00 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (No respect for conservatives? That's free speech. No respect for liberals? That's hate speech.)
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To: aculeus
One of the suspects had the information which led officials to the Baghdad house where the hostages were four months into their ordeal.


11 posted on 03/23/2006 1:10:26 PM PST by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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To: Timesink; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ...

Media Schadenfreude and Media Shenanigans

They weren't FREED. That implies the terrorists released the hostages of their own free will. It was a military rescue mission.

Rush also addressed this on his show today.


12 posted on 03/23/2006 1:10:41 PM PST by weegee ("Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but Democrats believe every day is April 15.")
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To: aculeus
"[US-captured terrorist "talked"]"

Gawd, I hope Bush didn't tap his phone calls.

13 posted on 03/23/2006 1:11:12 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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To: aculeus

Whatever happened to that Christian Science Monitor reporterette?


14 posted on 03/23/2006 1:13:05 PM PST by Hildy
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To: aculeus

Metallica at the right volume can be very persuasive.


15 posted on 03/23/2006 1:14:30 PM PST by CholeraJoe ("Have mercy, sobbed the alien. Got to find my way back home.")
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To: Hildy

Still missing.


16 posted on 03/23/2006 1:15:56 PM PST by b9 ("the [evil Marxist liberal socialist Democrat Party] alternative is unthinkable" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: Hildy
Jill Carrol?

I don't know. Haven't seen her mentioned in a while.

17 posted on 03/23/2006 1:16:13 PM PST by txhurl
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To: aculeus
In a telephone conversation with a friend, Mr Loney is said to have described the kidnappers as a criminal gang.

The fool is lucky not to have a video of his head getting chopped on the web and still lives in denial about the nature of these terrorists. Amazing.

18 posted on 03/23/2006 1:17:09 PM PST by edsheppa
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To: weegee

The spokes babe for the group said on Boortz this morning that to the best of her knowledge there were no captors present when the rescuers arrived. The activiste were released.She adamently refused to admit there was any military involvement at all.

If you see her on the street....spit on her.


19 posted on 03/23/2006 1:17:50 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: doodlelady

that story went completely off the radar, didn't it?


20 posted on 03/23/2006 1:17:55 PM PST by Hildy
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To: aculeus

No doubt Harry Reid will be calling for an investigation to see if the captured terrorist was subjected to women's panties on his head.


21 posted on 03/23/2006 1:18:37 PM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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To: aculeus
The only people that actually did anything to result in this outcome were the people that captured and interrogated the criminals that knew where they were.

The rest with all their back slapping did nothing short of walk in to a building with no hostiles to untie the victims...
22 posted on 03/23/2006 1:20:05 PM PST by DB (©)
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To: aculeus

The article stated -- "In a telephone conversation with a friend, Mr Loney is said to have described the kidnappers as a criminal gang."

Uhhh..., can you say "Islamic"?

This wasn't a bank robbery or holding up a corner Seven-Eleven or some white-collar crime syndicate. These were *Islamic* terrorists. [Is there any other kind of terrorist these days?]

Regards,
Star Traveler


23 posted on 03/23/2006 1:20:28 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Hildy

Sure seems like it.


24 posted on 03/23/2006 1:20:33 PM PST by b9 ("the [evil Marxist liberal socialist Democrat Party] alternative is unthinkable" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: Hildy

I suspect that story has a Stockholm Syndrome angle that no one in the media wants to discuss just now.

Who knows?


25 posted on 03/23/2006 1:26:47 PM PST by JennysCool (Liberals don't care what you do, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: weegee
They weren't FREED.

Isn't the use of passive voice, as in, "The hostages were freed", frowned upon by writer types.

But, if you don't use passive voice, you have to say who freed them: "Special Forces troops freed the hostages".

Seems passive voice is making a come back with pople who really don't want to convey the truth.

26 posted on 03/23/2006 1:28:37 PM PST by dinasour (Pajamahadeen and member of the Head SnowFlake Committee)
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To: aculeus

Congratultions to the Rescuers!!


27 posted on 03/23/2006 1:31:36 PM PST by YepYep
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To: bill1952

I've thought this was one of those "mutual" events all along.

They killed the only American. (not that the other "peace-keepers" would have condoned that)

The press release from their organization was just too pat - released quickly - no thanks to the troops - in fact they attacked the troops in the release.


28 posted on 03/23/2006 1:37:50 PM PST by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: Darkwolf377

Because the captors don't give a rat's ass about that or they would never have tortured and murdered a captive, thats why.

Murderous bastards, they are, and we can all agree on that blindingly obvious fact.
Therefor, why are these people alive?


29 posted on 03/23/2006 1:43:49 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Let's Roll
They killed the only American.

He may have been the one who wanted to opt out of the scam.

30 posted on 03/23/2006 1:45:31 PM PST by JennysCool (Liberals don't care what you do, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: DB
" The rest with all their back slapping did nothing short of walk in to a building with no hostiles to untie the victims..."

Ok, hotshot. Next time, you do it.

31 posted on 03/23/2006 1:50:07 PM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: bert
No send the little peace group a bill for the rescue. Paying that bill will cut down on their peacekeeping efforts for several bills.

They will need fund raisers, prayers, and cookie sales close to home.

pathetic!
32 posted on 03/23/2006 1:52:14 PM PST by Patriot from Philly
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To: aculeus
ungrateful bastards...should let them get their heads cut off...woulda done us all a favor
33 posted on 03/23/2006 1:55:36 PM PST by SoothSayerONETIME
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To: bill1952

The reward money.


34 posted on 03/23/2006 1:57:48 PM PST by xarmydog
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To: dinasour
Isn't the use of passive voice, as in, "The hostages were freed", frowned upon by writer types.

Yup. Weak and/or lazy.

35 posted on 03/23/2006 1:58:45 PM PST by Mordacious
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To: JennysCool
I think they had the "Stockholm Syndrome" before they were even captured.

It stuns me that they still have more compassion for the people that kidnapped, held them and killed one of their colleagues. It just shows what mental illness can do.

36 posted on 03/23/2006 2:12:47 PM PST by TravisBickle (Are you talkin' to me?)
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To: MizSterious
Read the press release.

It is totally political.

I stand by what I said.

The credit should go to those who actually got the information. The rest is just PR fluff.
37 posted on 03/23/2006 2:17:41 PM PST by DB (©)
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To: bill1952

"The hostages just sitting there with zero guards, or even anyone around? - I don't buy it."

There is a precedent for this. Thomas Hammill, U.S. contractor, escaped in May '04 after he was left unguarded.


38 posted on 03/23/2006 2:28:11 PM PST by Airborne1986 (Well, you can do what you want to us. But we're not going to sit here while you badmouth the U.S.A.)
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To: bert

I missed his show today. How did he respond to her?


39 posted on 03/23/2006 2:38:13 PM PST by EmilyGeiger
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To: aculeus
In a telephone conversation with a friend, Mr Loney is said to have described the kidnappers as a criminal gang.

His org (CPT) will clearly expect Loney to publicly apologize for demeaning the insurg..., er, freedom fighters.

40 posted on 03/23/2006 2:54:02 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: aculeus

That guy has the best name for any foreign official I've ever seen.


41 posted on 03/23/2006 3:14:14 PM PST by moog
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To: DB

And of course, there was no danger of booby-traps, of snipers waiting to pick off soldiers, no danger whatever, right? Brave people do the right thing, regardless of the danger. The rest sit at their computers and pooh-pooh their efforts.


42 posted on 03/23/2006 3:19:49 PM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: aculeus

Announcing the hostage release in London, Mr Straw-for-spine said: "Mercifully no shots were fired at me or the sand-nazis we all know and love".

There, I fixed it.


43 posted on 03/23/2006 3:26:08 PM PST by Yehuda ("Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!" (Choke on it, pinkos!))
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To: Airborne1986

True. - but I remember that he did escape himself and was then found. rather than found sitting there.


44 posted on 03/23/2006 3:58:13 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: EmilyGeiger

He said this really pisses me off. He repeatedly asked her to answer his question which she repeatedly evaded. He was about as harsh toned as any I have heard on talk radio.


45 posted on 03/23/2006 4:08:19 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: bert

Good for him! Her type needs a good shake. Self imposed ignorance is no excuse for how they have behaved. I wish I could have heard him today.


46 posted on 03/23/2006 4:10:21 PM PST by EmilyGeiger
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To: aculeus

I wonder how they got it out of him. Probably the peaceniks would be ticked off (as if they could get more selfish and peevish) to know.


47 posted on 03/23/2006 4:59:07 PM PST by Terriergal ("My conscience is captive to the word of God...here I stand. I can do no other. So help me God." ML)
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To: Only1choice____Freedom

The next time these "hostages" are found, don't waste your time "rescuing" them.

It seems they don't want to be rescued.

Yes, their spokesperson -- and their webpage -- claim they were released (not rescued).

Funny, that they used the words released. I wonder how they felt when the military untied them? I read that they were bound. I guess they would have us believe they were supernaturally released from their bondage?

ha!


48 posted on 03/23/2006 5:26:51 PM PST by i_dont_chat (I defend the right to offend!)
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To: MizSterious
The mission was spearheaded by British troops with the participation of forces from other coalition countries in Iraq.

"This was several weeks in the planning. It was an operation that was rolling, in a sense that it went on for some time," said the UK's Defence Secretary John Reid.

The multinational team included representatives from the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.

"Other agencies from Canada - they did a terrific job with us as well as the Americans," UK Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said.

The foreign secretary said civilians had been involved in the operation "in the background".

Announcing the hostage release in London, Mr Straw said: "Mercifully no shots were fired."

This was clearly a major success for the British-led force, says the BBC's defence correspondent Rob Watson.

No, what it was a major success at capturing and interrogating terrorists that lead to this successful rescue.

And as far as "pooh-poohing" their efforts, I was not. I'm pooh-poohing this BBC news story. Particularly the fact that none of this would have been possible if those criminal Americans had not gotten terrorists that it captured to talk which no doubt the BBC feels was criminal of us to do.

49 posted on 03/23/2006 6:10:20 PM PST by DB (©)
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To: neodad

They informed the terrorist that if he didn't talk, they would turn him over to Jack Bauer.


50 posted on 03/23/2006 6:11:41 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Real Leaders Base Their Decisions on Their Convictions. Wannabes Base Decisions on the Latest Poll.)
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