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A Thing or Two About Us Infidels
The Winnipeg Sun ^ | March 23, 2006 | John Gleeson

Posted on 03/23/2006 12:08:14 PM PST by quidnunc

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To: enave
would you be willing to rethink what Reagan did in helping them fight the Soviets?

No.

We weren't wrong to help the Soviets defeat Hitler, and we weren't wrong to help the Afghans defeat the Soviets. We weren't wrong to help Saddam defeat the Ayatollah, and we weren't wrong to clean Saddam's clock.

You don't have the option of fighting every enemy at once, you deal with the wolf that is closest to your door, and you help your enemies defeat themselves.

Its not a steady state world. One of the great unsung fights of the Cold War was the fight over the muslim world, between ourselves and the Soviets. Had we conceded this fight, we would have faced both muslim fascism and the Soviet Bloc, together at the same time. Egypt, Syria, Libya, Iraq, were all soviet clients, as were Arafat, Abu Nidal, and most of the muslim terrorists of the day. The fact that we managed to keep Iran under the Shah, the Saudis, the Pakistanis, and Morocco with us during that time was a real coup.

The Soviets had their muslim strategy, and we had ours.

We later managed to pull Egypt away from the soviets, and we were working on Iraq at the time the Soviet Union collapsed.

Its easy, in retrospect, to question it in the light of what has happened in the middle east. But the alternative was a Soviet Union still standing, with the largest muslim states effectively part of the Soviet Bloc.

A mistake many people make is to view the Cold War as 50 years of stability. This is a complete misreading of history. Millions of people died during the Cold War, wars raged on every continent. This is above and beyond the further millions that died directly from Soviet repression. The fact that Russian and Americans weren't trading potshots directly doesn't in any way reduce the death toll. The Cold War was fought using proxies, puppets, false flags similar to Bin Ladin, and the result was a death toll that is staggering. Since they are mostly third world citizens, its easy for journalists and politicians to pretend they didn't happen.

The Cold War was one of the bloodiest wars in history. We won. Thank God.

21 posted on 03/23/2006 1:01:24 PM PST by marron
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To: quidnunc
I love John Gleeson's writing style. He really has a way with words.

Gotta love that old-time religion.

While this sanctimonious gabfest was going on...

Muslim clerics can wring their hands to pieces...

Someone needs educating all right, and it's not just the infidels.

22 posted on 03/23/2006 1:03:58 PM PST by vox humana
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To: quidnunc

Second, if Islamic law is cited as the basis for killing a man for converting to Christianity, then, according to our way of looking at things, it is our right — indeed, for some their Christian duty — to criticize, condemn, or mock Islam, or at least that particular interpretation of Islam.



Now now, we must not doubt at all the religion of Peace. After all, our troops are now being sent to defend the Iraqi Constitution that states =
NO LAW SHALL CONTRADICT ISLAM.


23 posted on 03/23/2006 1:18:29 PM PST by TomasUSMC ((FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.))
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To: quidnunc
Some 300 Muslim scholars and clerics met in Bahrain yesterday to map out a plan to educate us infidels about the Prophet

9-11 taught me all I need to know.
24 posted on 03/23/2006 2:21:09 PM PST by wolfcreek
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To: Puppage
maybe 700 years old?

1400 years ~ Old Moe proclaimed his prophetic mission in Arabia in 612.

By the time Mohammed died, in 632, Muslims armies were attacking Persia (Iran) and had taken the cities of Jerusalem, Antioch and Alexandria.

The entire known world of "western civilization" was besieged by Arab armies, marching on a jihad to conquer the known world.

And it has never stopped.
25 posted on 03/23/2006 2:47:11 PM PST by Beckwith (The liberal media has picked sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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To: pgkdan
It is a despotism. Islam is the religion of peace. Unfortunately, it is the peace sought by all tyrants and tyrannical systems--all dissent is muzzled and all enemies either liquidated or hiding out for fear of their lives.
I wonder when the Europeans are going to wake up to fact that by allowing Muslims into their land and paying for them to breed like roaches, they are building the chains to their own eventual enslavement link by link.
26 posted on 03/23/2006 3:40:31 PM PST by attiladhun2 (evolution has both deified and degraded humanity)
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To: enave
Actually, the Russian adventure into Afghanistan was the repsonibility of Jimmy Cahter and Zbigwhateverthehellhis name is.

I remember seeing a show about 5 years back where Zbig was laughing with a condescending attitude about how they suckered the Russians into getting stuck into the quagmire that Afghanistan became.

No russians in Afghanistan, no Mujihadeen, no Osama, no Al Queda.

Friggin idiots!

27 posted on 03/23/2006 8:59:16 PM PST by America's Resolve (I've become a 'single issue voter' for 06 and 08. My issue is illegal immigration!)
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