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Anger over Christian convert in Kabul who faces death
Afghan News Network : The Times (UK) ^ | March 21, 2006 | Tim Albone

Posted on 03/21/2006 2:47:29 PM PST by Cboldt

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"In your country (Britain) two women can marry; that is very strange. In this country we have the perfect constitution, it is Islamic law and it is illegal to be a Christian and it should be punished."
1 posted on 03/21/2006 2:47:32 PM PST by Cboldt
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The Bishop of Rochester, the Right Rev Michael Nazir-Ali, who leads the Church of England's dialogue with Islam, told The Times: "I'm amazed that the constitution that has been agreed in post-Taleban Aghanistan under the very eyes of the international community should allow this kind of thing to take place -- for a person to be arrested for having been converted 14 years ago and to be threatened with execution simply for his beliefs. "The British Army in Afghanistan is losing soldiers there through injury and death. Is the Army there to uphold this kind of thing? I thought we were there to promote democracy and freedom."

Welcome aboard UK...now if the U.S. will please sign in and let us know its position.

2 posted on 03/21/2006 2:53:11 PM PST by Dark Skies
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The fine gentleman who has decided that his victim should be executed should be taken out behind the woodshed by President Karzai (or a suitible designee) and seriously counseled.

That's the way this sort of thing is handled in civilized countries.

Now, if Karzai himself decides the victim should be executed, Karzai has to remember all the many hundreds of relatives he has left behind in America.

It's not like they are invisible. Their access to credit, among other things, would become very difficult. And the criminals among them would most likely start getting treated like criminals rather than war victims ~ and you'd better believe a lot of Karzai's relatives get in a lot of trouble!

3 posted on 03/21/2006 2:53:51 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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And get this...

He is teasing and insulting his family by converting.
Why do I doubt that a man who is so committed to the Christian faith would tease and insult his family?
4 posted on 03/21/2006 2:55:17 PM PST by Dark Skies
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Man this makes me ANGRY!! We will never be able to trust a Islamic government to be anything but the vicious 7th Century fascists morons.
5 posted on 03/21/2006 2:56:50 PM PST by hatfieldmccoy (Satan has a new name and it is Islam)
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To: Dark Skies
... now if the U.S. will please sign in and let us know its position.

The United States, which counts Afghan President Hamid Karzai as a key ally in the region, raised the case with visiting Afghan Foreign Minister Abdullah Abdullah, calling on Kabul to uphold Afghan citizens' constitutional right to choose their faith.

"We hope that the Afghan constitution is going to be upheld and in our view, if it's upheld, then of course he'll be found to be innocent," said Nicholas Burns, the State Department's third-ranked diplomat. ...

"While we understand the complexity of a case like this and we certainly will respect the sovereignty of the Afghan authorities and the Afghan system, from an American point of view, people should be free to choose their own religion," Burns told reporters, flanked by Abdullah.

Abdullah said his government had "nothing to do" with the judicial case, but added: "I hope that through our constitutional process, there will be a satisfactory result."

U.S. and allies press Afghanistan on Christian convert
By Paul Eckert, Asia Correspondent


6 posted on 03/21/2006 2:57:03 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Thx...I hadn't seen that.


7 posted on 03/21/2006 2:58:13 PM PST by Dark Skies
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Send in the military, take his daughters, and rescue him. This is disgusting.


8 posted on 03/21/2006 2:59:24 PM PST by Politicalmom (Must I use a sarcasm tag?)
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It's all a nomadic tribal people have. The religion grew out of extremem insecurity. No way they will back down. The only way Asia will reform is if ahem something like a bird flu pandemic reduces their population by a factor of 40% or so. Otherwise you are asking a people to turn away from a belief that protected them for centuries from outside domination. Well sort of. Definitely a hard culture to crack as it were.


9 posted on 03/21/2006 3:00:29 PM PST by kinghorse
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To: Dark Skies
The part about the case proceeding "outside of Afghan government" is interesting. Does the Afghan government stand around twiddling its thumbs?
10 posted on 03/21/2006 3:02:11 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

secular government in these tribal regions is good for business and that's about all.


11 posted on 03/21/2006 3:05:17 PM PST by kinghorse
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If Bush permits this man to be executed, he should be impeached. And yes, it IS up to us. We were the idiots who permitted any remnant of Sharia Law to remain in that land. If Douglas MacArthur were running running our WOT instead of the pussies who are, they would be lucky to practice Islam at all.


12 posted on 03/21/2006 3:06:21 PM PST by montag813
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the only way Asia will reform is if ahem something like a bird flu pandemic reduces their population by a factor of 40% or so.

Hmmmm I love the smell of carpet bombing in the morning......

13 posted on 03/21/2006 3:06:35 PM PST by hatfieldmccoy (Satan has a new name and it is Islam)
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Scenario 1:
Ex-Christian says, "I've decided to convert to Islam. I am now a Muslim! Yes! Score two points for Muhammad!"

Christian Fanatic says, "Dude, Jesus loves you! You're totally lost! Just... whatever get outta here!"

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Scenario 2:
Ex-Muslim says, "I've decided to convert to Christianity. I am now a Christian! Yes! Score two points for Jesus!"

Muslim Fanatic screams, "I'm going to CUT OFF YOUR HEAD AND DRINK YOUR BLOOD! MUHAMMAD HATES YOU INFIDEL! NOTHING LESS THAN DEATH AND BLOODSHED!!" >Beheads Christian and holds head high and then cuts himself with a knife. Blood is everywhere.<

Now why in the world would anyone want to convert to Christianity?


14 posted on 03/21/2006 3:18:39 PM PST by AmericanRepublican (There are fools on both sides. Only the true Americans will prevail.)
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To: Cboldt

As Ann Coulter has stated, "Kill all their leaders, then convert them to Christianity".


15 posted on 03/21/2006 3:21:46 PM PST by Ikemeister
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To: hatfieldmccoy

To think that a lot of great Americans died and we spent a vast sum to free that country-and now this?


16 posted on 03/21/2006 3:23:23 PM PST by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: Cboldt

Wonder how they'd like it if we said...?

"In this country we have the perfect constitution and Sharia law will never be tolerated. This was founded as a Christian country. It's illegal to be a Muslim Death-Cultist here and it should be punished by execution."


17 posted on 03/21/2006 3:24:51 PM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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His own parents turned him in! Why don't they just deport him and bar him from their country? Their "laws" are unjust" and satanic - they know not that the GOd of Islam is the great deceiver pretending to be God while slaughtering all who oppose him. A false religion that people have been sucked into all over the world...


18 posted on 03/21/2006 3:31:17 PM PST by princess leah
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"He is teasing and insulting his family by converting."

He's not the one doing the teasing and the insulting, it's his family who perceives it as being so, and others influencing the family by telling the family that that is what he's doing. IMO.

19 posted on 03/21/2006 3:39:39 PM PST by the anti-liberal (Hey, Al Qaeda: Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent)
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""While we understand the complexity of a case like this and we certainly will respect the sovereignty of the Afghan authorities and the Afghan system, from an American point of view, people should be free to choose their own religion," Burns told reporters, flanked by Abdullah."

This is soooo typical of this sissy administration. If the Afgans kill this man and Bush and the other Mohammaden loving clowns in the administration do nothing to seriously hurt Karzai and the rest of the thugocracy in Afganistan, I will work my ancient tail off to see to it that no Republican gets re-elected to Congress in the fall without a promise of impeachment for Bush! Damn this makes me mad! We've got young people dying out there so these human maggots can execute Christians and Nicky Burns (who was just about the biggest joke in Athens when he was the ambassador there)can give them assurances we will respect their sovereinty?


20 posted on 03/21/2006 4:02:04 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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