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Judge: No Deal For Teacher Who Slept With Her Student
The Indy Channel ^ | March 21, 2006 | AP

Posted on 03/21/2006 11:29:17 AM PST by Abathar

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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

I'm saying that adult sexual behaviors with minors being about power and control not sex. It's not for the orgasm, it's for the grovel.

And honestly, many women see sex as a way to have power. At least that is what the write and like to read ;) Nothing seems to be what we learned at our grannies knee.


361 posted on 03/21/2006 1:57:32 PM PST by najida (I hate bullies- God, man or beast, it doesn't matter.)
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To: Dominic Harr

The crack dealer was COLLABORATING with your friend to further degrade and dehumanize him.
Its like saying the Jews in the concentration camps were not victims of the makers of the gas ovens cause they weren't actually DOING the gassing.


362 posted on 03/21/2006 1:58:05 PM PST by Riverman94610
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To: najida
Ok, from the woman's POV, sex IS power, control etc. and molestors, abusers, it is the case totally.

Exactly what I mean when I say that boys and girls are different here.

For the boy, this was *not* about power. He probably a) thought she loved him and he loved her (we boys are stupid like that) and b) wanted her for pleasure's sake.

I can't say in the teachers case that this was about power, either. Maybe, or maybe she had a hubby who ignored her, so she was lonely, and here was a boy who worshipped her . . . there are so many possibilities.

Again, I agree she should be fired. She abused her teacher/student relationship.

But the boy is not a victim, in my opinion.

363 posted on 03/21/2006 1:58:23 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: TXBubba; Dominic Harr

Yeah,
We women can do it on our own without help,
thank you very much.


364 posted on 03/21/2006 1:59:11 PM PST by najida (I hate bullies- God, man or beast, it doesn't matter.)
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To: monday
Just like many girls/women hold it against rock stars who bang every groupie in sight or against the football team for basically doing the same thing.

I don't know -- many gals *do* hold that against them. My wife is quite a babe if I may say so myself, a total MILF, and she refused to ever date a musician way back when for just that kind of reason.

Fortunately, I have *no* musical talent what-so-ever!

365 posted on 03/21/2006 2:00:49 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: najida; Dominic Harr

Actually I think the marriage/sex thing starts after kids are born. Frankly, I'm just tired when the hubby is all ready to go. Then when I am ready to go he is tired. It goes both ways. That and the fact there is no more attempt at "romance" on his part most of the time. If he kept "dating" me then I would be in the mood more. Just some advice for the married guys out there.


366 posted on 03/21/2006 2:01:52 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: najida
Yeah, We women can do it on our own without help, thank you very much.

Ouch!

:-)

I'll just say that as long as a guy doesn't become a total couch potato, then his drive, etc, shouldn't fade into any dark nights before he's 60+.

Unless work, kids, OR A COMPLAINING WIFE stress him out too much!!!

Heehee!

367 posted on 03/21/2006 2:03:51 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget; frogjerk; Abathar; Publius6961
Where were these teachers when I was in school. Mine looked like Helen Thomas.

My ninth grade algebra teacher back in 1960 looked like Catherine Zeta Jones. Man it was tough to concentrate.

368 posted on 03/21/2006 2:04:09 PM PST by beyond the sea (The definition of a 'Targeted Tax Cut' is ........................ you ain't gettin' it)
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To: TXBubba
We aren't talking about those on the little blue pill.

Hahahahahahah!

That's cold!

369 posted on 03/21/2006 2:04:55 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Dominic Harr

You know I'm just having fun with you. you do know that?


370 posted on 03/21/2006 2:05:30 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: najida

When it comes to sex and power, it seems that the ends and means are opposite between men and women. For women (as you say): power is the end, and sex the means. For men: sex is the end, power is the means.

Regardless, we agree that teachers should not abuse their authority and have a duty to be the one saying "no".


371 posted on 03/21/2006 2:05:53 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: jmq
My boy..."That away kid, just don't gett'er pregnant..."

Actually, if this had been my boy, I'd have read him the riot act. I'd tell him, "Don't give me that 'victim' crap! You knew what you were doing! She' married, for god's sake! What the heck did I teach you!"

372 posted on 03/21/2006 2:06:25 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: al baby

Ummmm, nice bike


373 posted on 03/21/2006 2:07:02 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: Abathar

Out scott free, charges dropped. "Too pretty for prison."
-her lawyer. Debra Lafave-"I am a strong Christian woman and I won't let this happen again."


374 posted on 03/21/2006 2:07:59 PM PST by mission9 (Be a citizen worth living for, in a Nation worth dying for...)
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To: Riverman94610
The crack dealer was COLLABORATING with your friend to further degrade and dehumanize him.

Exaclty -- they collaborated to do this deed.

The boy is guilty too.

Your 'jews' comment, I'm just gonna say I think you're wildly off base.

If this were my boy, I wouldn't "comfort" him as a "victim". I'd kick his arse for messing with a married woman, knowingly.

375 posted on 03/21/2006 2:08:21 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Dominic Harr

OK,
I'm talking totally clincially here, from lots of sources...personal, professional, etc. It's a dark place and I ain't saying it's right, good or normal.

My guess is this chick was molested early by someone that she felt helpless around. Then she married her hubby and OOPS, she married someone that she felt powerless around too. So sex was this feeling of being trapped-- paralysed.

Along comes this boy and she feels that rush that SHE isn't helpless around him. HE will do what she wants. It flips. She's no longer the victim. Now she can be what she never was before. The adult making the rules and calling the shots. Even so, it wasn't about sex, it was about her being the one making the kid do for her as she had been the kid doing for the adult.

It probably was the biggest rush of her life. Better than anything she had with her hubby. But it wasn't sex, it was power.

Honestly, I don't think she felt a thing other than that rush you get when you actually control the demon that has tortured you your whole life. Believe me, it's ugly, but that is why the molested often become molested. It's a short in the wiring.

Funny, but you now talk about the boy's emotions. I thought it was the girls who got all emotional about sex ;)


376 posted on 03/21/2006 2:08:41 PM PST by najida (I hate bullies- God, man or beast, it doesn't matter.)
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To: mission9
Debra Lafave-"I am a strong Christian woman and I won't let this happen again."

Is this a real quote?

377 posted on 03/21/2006 2:08:54 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: najida
That's the problem! You're brilliant.

That may be a bit overstated.
Men and women are assembled differently, including the guilt and conscience part.

That does not make men "badder".

378 posted on 03/21/2006 2:09:47 PM PST by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: TXBubba
You know I'm just having fun with you. you do know that?

Oh, dittos!

:-)

That was still cold!!!

379 posted on 03/21/2006 2:09:48 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Abathar

scary.


380 posted on 03/21/2006 2:09:50 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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