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Before Scandinavia: These Could Be The First Skiers (China)
Christian Science Monitor ^
| March 15, 2006
| Robert Marquand
Posted on 03/18/2006 2:39:45 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Certainly European-type people, but not necessarily what you call Caucasion, and certainly not Indo-European types.
The Sa'ami are generally conceded to have invented "cross country" skis, and probably the other kinds as well.
With 25% of Earth's land surface given over to reindeer and musk ox herding, those bad boys got around. We can't be sure of who was using a ski in Western China at the time, but there's no mystery to how they found out about skis.
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03/18/2006 4:08:02 PM PST
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muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
What "time"? Do you have conclusive evidence as to when snow and ice either receeded enough to make the land habitable, or increased to make life more difficult?
Goelogical evidence suggests the later.
To: muawiyah
With 25% of Earth's land surface given over to reindeer and musk ox herding, those bad boys got around. We can't be sure of who was using a ski in Western China at the time, but there's no mystery to how they found out about skis. Reindeer and Musk ox are tundra swamp animals . Not much lumber around there to make ski's. Unless they were 3 foot tall ones. Opps, those trees are 3 feet tall NOW. They were probablt much shorter THEN. If course, something catasrophic could have happened....
To: Nathan Zachary
Have you taken a good look at how much of Earth's land surface is tied up in Arctic, subarctic, and Alpine conditions?
It's huge@!
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03/18/2006 4:36:44 PM PST
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muawiyah
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To: Nathan Zachary
Just as soon as lichen and mushrooms could row, the reindeer could move in, and the Sa'ami with them.
Although you need a digestive system that can handle a high fat/high protein diet, and there's not much in the way of carbohydrates around, people were able to move into Alpine, subarctic and Arctic regions for the last 180,000 years (maybe more).
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03/18/2006 4:39:15 PM PST
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muawiyah
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To: Nathan Zachary
BTW, just because the animals are designed pirmarily for tundra swamp doesn't mean they don't occasionally wander into timbered regions, particularly along the Norwegian coast.
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03/18/2006 4:40:24 PM PST
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muawiyah
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To: blam
Once again, thanks for the links.
To: NZerFromHK
Neither does Miller for that matter.
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posted on
03/18/2006 4:48:33 PM PST
by
359Henrie
(NASA needs one more moon rock, its in Mecca.)
To: muawiyah
"Just as soon as lichen and mushrooms could row, the reindeer could move in, and the Sa'ami with them." I guess. I've always moved from better homes to worse ones too it seems.
To: blam
Who cares, we invented snowboarding.
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posted on
03/18/2006 4:53:40 PM PST
by
38special
(the fastest growing winter sport)
To: 38special
I thought snowboarders invented BC Bud.
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posted on
03/18/2006 5:01:19 PM PST
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muawiyah
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To: Nathan Zachary
After all, last night someone told me that people didn't even know how to make eating utensils less than 1400 years ago. Chopsticks are recognized as the invention that lead to the expansion of the Chinese race.
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03/18/2006 5:05:02 PM PST
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Doe Eyes
To: muawiyah
BTW- what makes you think Norway was always a timbered region?
What makes you think The arctic was always a cold and under ice? Geological evidence suggests otherwise, that in fact it was tropical.
I know it's easier to dismiss the discovery of mammoths, fox, rabbits, wolfs etc. the vegetation, the meat still hanging on these carcasses, seemingly instantly frozen with food in their mouths as being beamed to earth from another planet, but there IS an better, more sensible explanation for them.
Read this, then tell me what you think later, when you have read it all.
Berezovka Mammoth
To: 38special
"Who cares, we invented snowboarding." Snowboarding was invented by the Jamaican bobsled team in July, 1967.
To: oklahoma guard
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posted on
03/18/2006 5:12:26 PM PST
by
blam
To: Nathan Zachary
What we have seen during the last 2 million years of this current Ice Age are a lot of retreats and advances. We refer to the greatest of the retreats as "interglacials", although they really aren't, and during the periods of maximum glaciation, there are numerous retreats in different areas due to variations in precipitation "upstream", and "sublimation" anywhere.
The zone where trees can grow varies. Further, you find some trees like aspens and birches able to grow far North of where maples and oaks can live.
Simply because you have reindeer and muskox around doesn't mean Sa'ami didn't have access to trees.
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03/18/2006 5:13:13 PM PST
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muawiyah
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To: 38special
Pssst! ( I don't really know if that's true or not, but we may as well stick with it before someone discovers a wide, curved piece of wood in Tibet)
To: Doe Eyes
But first, according to archaologists with the evidence in hand, the Chinese invented the fork!
Chopstix came later.
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03/18/2006 5:18:15 PM PST
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muawiyah
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To: oklahoma guard
"Indian archaelogists are notorious Aryan theorists who believe the entire White Race came from India and ruled the world in prehistory. BS that's what it is." Many of us may have our origins in Sundaland.
Sundaland (GGG)
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posted on
03/18/2006 5:21:35 PM PST
by
blam
To: muawiyah
"What we have seen during the last 2 million years of this current Ice Age are a lot of retreats and advances." Stop right there. "WE" haven't seen anything. And WE haven't seen any proof of "2 million years" of anything being seen anywhere.
What WE DO see evidence of, is a sudden onslaught of ice instantly killing and burying a tropical region.
As I said, read the link provided, and after a couple days it will take you to read through the whole book OBJECTIVELY, let me know what you think.
You will find it very interesting if aything else.
At the very least, you will understand a little more about geology, whether you believe in the authors conclusions or not.
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