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Before Scandinavia: These Could Be The First Skiers (China)
Christian Science Monitor ^ | March 15, 2006 | Robert Marquand

Posted on 03/18/2006 2:39:45 PM PST by blam

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I believe Caucasians dominated this region at that time.
1 posted on 03/18/2006 2:39:48 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 03/18/2006 2:40:43 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
These people were found in the same general area:

The Curse Of The Red-Headed Mummy

3 posted on 03/18/2006 2:42:51 PM PST by blam
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The Altaic peoples, when asked why they didn't advance further as a civilization they said "We don't really care, but dude we ROCKED!"


4 posted on 03/18/2006 2:43:36 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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Move over Bode...

2008 edition Trivial Pursuit question: "Name the overrated wastrel hyped for the 2006 Winter Olympics, currently employed as blood donor".

5 posted on 03/18/2006 2:48:36 PM PST by dagnabbit (Vicente Fox's opening line at the Mexico-USA summit meeting: "Bring out the Gimp!")
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The Altic region did not get formally incorporated into China until the Qing dynasty (just about 350 years ago). They were the "Western Areas" during the Han dynasty.


6 posted on 03/18/2006 2:51:35 PM PST by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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"I believe Caucasians dominated this region at that time."

Early Mongoloids you mean, similar to some later Native Indian peoples (in Canada).

Mongoloids developed their unique epicanthal eye fold ("Oriental eyes") from the extreme cold weather of the Altay mountains. All Mongolians, most Koreans and Japanese and the majority of Chinese all have epicanthal eye folds. The latter batch (~10000 years ago) of Amerindians (those who settled in Canada) also have the fold. However, Asians who developed from proto-Mongoloids like the Southeast Asians (Vietnamese and Philipinos), do not have the epicanthal fold.
7 posted on 03/18/2006 2:52:21 PM PST by oklahoma guard
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So, Muslims now claim that Ghengis Khan's Mongols were really muslim slope skiers', whizzing down snowy mountains in black Pyjamas, and turban's were really early helmets to prevent bashing their heads on rocks?

Ok, why not.


8 posted on 03/18/2006 2:53:30 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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How did the Chinese do in the alpine events at the last Olympics?

They must have forgotten how.

9 posted on 03/18/2006 3:02:19 PM PST by Mike Darancette (In the Land of the Blind the one-eyed man is king.)
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Chinese people wasn't aware of skiiing until the mid 20th century. In fact, a majority of them still don't know what it is, let alone knowing how to ski.


10 posted on 03/18/2006 3:06:02 PM PST by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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To: blam
Ooops, forgot to add the usual- "some people smoke too much dope and get too much free government grant money to come up with their bizarre outlook.

Let's not forget that, 10,000 years ago, it's doubtful anyone was skiing down slopes in that region at all. After all, last night someone told me that people didn't even know how to make eating utensils less than 1400 years ago.

Imagine, They could make ski's, poles, bindings and Ski boots that will stay on at 120 miles an hour down a hill; warm, yet light clothing, pack sacks to carry the necessities needed to spend days in the freezing cold following these elk through the mountains; weave rope to "tie them up alive", but were too dumb to make a fork.
11 posted on 03/18/2006 3:12:37 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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"Early Mongoloids you mean, similar to some later Native Indian peoples (in Canada)."

Nope. Bonafide Caucasians. Victor Mair, in his excellent book, The Tarim Mummies, quotes an Indian archaeologist (N Narain) as believing that all Europeans descended from this region.

Further, Professor Stephen Oppenheimer, says that 50% of the DNA of Europeans originated in the Indus valley from one man through the Middle East. The other 50% (approximately) came from one of his off-spring a thousand years or so later through Russia.

The oldest (undisputed) Mongoloid skeleton ever found is only 10,000 years old (re: Oppenheimer).

The Mongoloids of the North, with the epicanthal eye lids, flatter faces and lighter skin are descended from the Mongoloids of South East Asia.

Mongoloids (probably the Han) only began to show up in the skeletal record in the Xinjiang region about 100-200 BC. There were Caucasian only graveyards in that region all the way up until about 1300AD.

12 posted on 03/18/2006 3:15:07 PM PST by blam
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"After all, last night someone told me that people didn't even know how to make eating utensils less than 1400 years ago."

Go with the over-whelming evidence. The statement you were told is untrue.

13 posted on 03/18/2006 3:18:00 PM PST by blam
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Go with the over-whelming evidence. The statement you were told is untrue.

Ya think? :o)

14 posted on 03/18/2006 3:24:05 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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How did the Chinese do in the alpine events at the last Olympics?
They must have forgotten how.


Back then it wasnt about skiing for fun but surviving.


15 posted on 03/18/2006 3:24:50 PM PST by Petey139
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Nope. Bonafide Caucasians. Victor Mair, in his excellent book, The Tarim Mummies, quotes an Indian archaeologist (N Narain) as believing that all Europeans descended from this region.

That really bothers the "natives" you know. It doesn't square well with evolutionist theory either. They do not agree that micro evolution (adaptation) could account for the different outward apearances of humans.

16 posted on 03/18/2006 3:30:32 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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The History Of Eating Utensils
17 posted on 03/18/2006 3:31:06 PM PST by blam
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Learn some geography. Indus valley ain't near the Altay mountains. There's a thing called the Himalayas smack in between.

"The Mongoloids of the North, with the epicanthal eye lids, flatter faces and lighter skin are descended from the Mongoloids of South East Asia."

Yeah, that sure explains why Southeast Asians don't have the epicanthal fold and Southeast Asians are much darker.

The function of the epicanthal fold is clearly cold/ice weather adaptation. The further north the Mongoloids, the stronger epicanthal folds they have.

Indian archaelogists are notorious Aryan theorists who believe the entire White Race came from India and ruled the world in prehistory. BS that's what it is.


18 posted on 03/18/2006 3:42:59 PM PST by oklahoma guard
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Back then it wasnt about skiing for fun but surviving.

I just can't agree with that. If anyone DID play with downhill ski's, it was for fun. Survival was much more serious a "game". People, if they were nomadic, followed the herds, or at least knew of their migration patterns. They stored up food accordingly. "Tribes" of humans wouldn't continuously be on the run chasing herds on migration routes like some like to think. If you ever hunted, you'd know why. It's just not possible. Tribes would have slowly moved from place to place as they depleted the local herds. Deer, elk, moose, except for the caribou in the seasonal north, are not animals that migrate over great distances, they stay put where the vegetation supports them, they only move to greener pastures when their numbers get too large for the area to support them. Again, this takes a period of time as well. It stands to reason that tribes of humans would also stay put, and gradually, as wild game became further and further away due to increased preasure on the local herds, due to human population growth, would venture further in search of it. Eventually the trip wouldn't be worthwhile, so tsome of them would re-settle. They also practised agriculture as well, which isn't possible if you are constantly moving.

19 posted on 03/18/2006 3:58:32 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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"Yeah, that sure explains why Southeast Asians don't have the epicanthal fold and Southeast Asians are much darker." So, these things can't change from adaptation over time?
20 posted on 03/18/2006 4:05:47 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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