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Bag Mix-Up Puts Gun in D.C. School
Washington Post ^ | 3/16/06 | Clarence Williams and Henri E. Cauvin

Posted on 03/17/2006 12:50:11 PM PST by kiriath_jearim

Bag Mix-Up Puts Gun in D.C. School

Mom Is Charged After Girl, 7, Turns In Pistol

By Clarence Williams and Henri E. Cauvin Washington Post Staff Writers Thursday, March 16, 2006; Page B01

A 7-year-old girl mistakenly grabbed her mother's DKNY bag on the way to school Tuesday -- and turned it over to a teacher several hours later when she discovered a loaded semiautomatic pistol inside, authorities said.

The mother was called to the Northeast Washington elementary school, and she was arrested and charged with weapons offenses and child endangerment. Police quoted her as saying: "That's my gun; she got the wrong bag."

No one was hurt in the episode at Emery Elementary School, at 1720 First St. NE. The gun contained five live rounds, authorities said.

The girl's mother, Maryam Williams, told a school official that she had intended to take the gun to a firing range for practice, according to charging papers filed yesterday. She said the bag containing the gun was in the trunk of her car, along with her daughter's backpack, and that there must have been a mix-up, the papers stated.

Police and school officials said the gun went unnoticed until the end of the school day, when the girl opened a small makeup case inside the DKNY bag and saw the small, silver-colored .380-caliber pistol. The child immediately told her teacher, and school officials notified police, according to the charging papers.

Williams, 32, of the 1800 block of North Capitol Street was released on personal recognizance after a hearing yesterday in D.C. Superior Court. The charging papers quoted her as saying that she knew the gun was loaded and that she did not realize that it was missing until the school called.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: banglist

1 posted on 03/17/2006 12:50:13 PM PST by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim

"The child immediately told her teacher, "

She must've had the Eddie Eagle program somewhere.

Seriously, the mother isn't too bright. She didn't secure this weapon properly. That said, she should be able to carry it, if she wants to. That's impossible in DC, though.


3 posted on 03/17/2006 12:52:53 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: kiriath_jearim

"The school's principal yesterday sent a letter to parents saying that a social worker would talk with the girl's second-grade classmates in a "healthy dialogue" about the incident and what they can learn from it"

I'm sure it will be 'healthy dialogue' in D.C.

*spits*

Sounds like the kid did just fine. A big mistake on the mothers part, yes, but her kid had brains to do what was right. What more can they ask of the kids?


4 posted on 03/17/2006 12:53:53 PM PST by TrybalRage
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To: kiriath_jearim

Where's the crime? Is the mother a felon? This is an honest mistake and nobody got hurt. Give the mom a misdemeanor or a fine for child endangerment and move on.


5 posted on 03/17/2006 12:54:30 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: kiriath_jearim

off-body carry= not good idea.

( but hell, it's DC. living there=not good idea.)


6 posted on 03/17/2006 12:55:46 PM PST by Rakkasan1 (Muslims pray to Allah, Allah prays to Chuck Norris.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

1. The girl carried the loaded pistol with her all day long and only when she noticed it and brought it to the attention of the teachers did the feces hit the fan. Good job going undetected all day long with a loaded pistol.

2. The girl, being honest, not only is getting expelled from school, her mother is facing criminal charges. Way to go and the way to encourage honesty and integrity within the school children.

3. Bad woman for wanting a pistol to defend herself and her kids anyway. In NY the vigilant school security officers and the NYPD will protect you anyway, no need to have a pistol in criminal and crime free NYC..


7 posted on 03/17/2006 12:56:42 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: vetvetdoug
OOPS, its crime free and criminal free Washington D.C. NYC is the same anyway....predominantly affirmative action potential recipients.
8 posted on 03/17/2006 12:58:46 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: MineralMan
I agree.

But something smells. How can a seven-year old not know what they're carrying until the end of the day? Didn't she have to look into her backpack for homework or paper throughout the day only to find out it's her mom's bag? Why at the end of the day this happened?

9 posted on 03/17/2006 12:58:56 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: kiriath_jearim

In DC and NYC and MA this sort of thing is a Crime Against the State and probably regarded as the most serious sort of crime. Criminals possessing firearms and even shooting store clerks is not nearly so scary an offense to the authorities in places like this because those guns are just tools for criminals to use against citizens. A law abiding citizen would only have a gun to shoot mayors and social workers and legislators and such.


10 posted on 03/17/2006 1:00:51 PM PST by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

"How can a seven-year old not know what they're carrying until the end of the day? Didn't she have to look into her backpack for homework or paper throughout the day only to find out it's her mom's bag? Why at the end of the day this happened?"



I don't know, but I can guess that the little bag holding the pistol worked its way to the bottom. I just don't know. In any case, the mother is an idiot.


11 posted on 03/17/2006 1:01:10 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: vetvetdoug
I bet any money this child knew that her mom was packing and was indoctrinated by the school system to report if any household members had guns in the home.

I'm sure the DKNY bag had a logo on it and she could have easily distinguished it from the backpack. She had the bag throughout the friggin' day and just notices it at the end. I mean c'mon. This story stinks to low Hades.

12 posted on 03/17/2006 1:03:01 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: MineralMan
You know what I'm saying though. The bags had to have different feels to them. This kid probably had your obligatory kid's plastic backpack with the Hello Kitty character on it, for pete's sake, as opposed to a woman's designer bag.

The kid tattled on her mom, mom will do some jail time, the kid will get kicked out of school, mom will lose her job, will be unable to defend herself from the D.C. vermin, and the kid will wind up in some relative's home to be molested by an uncle or half-brother.

13 posted on 03/17/2006 1:08:12 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
This kid probably had your obligatory kid's plastic backpack with the Hello Kitty character on it, for pete's sake, as opposed to a woman's designer bag.

My first thought. I don't see how the kid could accidently grab the DKNY bag when she meant to grab her own backpack.

And your assessment of the tragedies awaiting this family are probably spot on.

14 posted on 03/17/2006 1:12:42 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Never question Bruce Dickinson!)
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To: kiriath_jearim
From the NRA-ILA:

PURCHASE:

The sale of handguns in the District is prohibited.

OWNERSHIP:

No handgun can be legally possessed in the District unless it is registered. All handguns registered in the District prior to Sept. 24, 1976, were required to have been reregistered by Feb. 5, 1977. After that date, no more handguns could be registered.

Thus, it is unlawful to possess, acquire, or bring into D.C. any handgun which was not registered as of Feb. 5, 1977.

CARRYING:

Carrying a handgun in the District is prohibited. All firearms are to be kept at one`s home or place of business.

All firearms must be unloaded and disassembled or locked with a trigger lock except when kept at a registrant`s place of business or while being used for lawful "recreational" purposes. A D.C. license to carry a pistol is needed for one`s home or business and the pistol must also have been registered prior to September 24, 1976.

Self-defense in one`s home with a firearm is therefore legally precluded.

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Oh, the first offense is a misdemeanor, second offense is a felony.

15 posted on 03/17/2006 1:47:27 PM PST by FoxInSocks
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You have to ask though, why wasn't the child banned from school for umpty-ump weeks ... isn't that the way PC schools are now? Zero tolerance? Like not even an asprin (but school offishuls are allowed to have them) .../s/


16 posted on 03/17/2006 1:50:48 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition is Sad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: kiriath_jearim

My interpretation of this incident is that the kid had more common sense than the mother. When my kids were pre-gun-taught age, all our wepons were in the safe until they were needed to go to the range. The range bags are hard sided aluminum with locks. Weapons never loaded. Loaded home protection pistols is another topic....


17 posted on 03/17/2006 2:10:56 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: TrybalRage
Sounds like the kid did just fine. A big mistake on the mothers part, yes, but her kid had brains to do what was right. What more can they ask of the kids?

No, the kid did not do the right thing. The right thing would have been to keep her mouth shut, especially since it was at the end of the day anyway. I can't blame her though, she's only seven; she did do pretty good for seven, just not as good as COULD have been done.

18 posted on 03/17/2006 2:59:11 PM PST by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Where's the crime? Is the mother a felon? This is an honest mistake and nobody got hurt.

Not in the new Amerika. This isn't a free country anymore.

19 posted on 03/18/2006 9:42:27 AM PST by Mulder (“The spirit of resistance is so valuable, that I wish it to be always kept alive" Thomas Jefferson)
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