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Police: U.S. hostage shot, tortured
CNN ^ | 3/11/06 | CNN

Posted on 03/11/2006 6:01:04 AM PST by jimbo123

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- American hostage Tom Fox -- who was kidnapped with three other Christian peace activists in November -- has been found shot in the head with his body showing signs of torture, Iraqi emergency police told CNN Saturday.

There was no word on the whereabouts of Fox's fellow hostages -- Canadians James Loney, 41, and Harmeet Singh Sooden, 32, and 74-year-old Briton Norman Kember -- who were last seen in a video broadcast Tuesday on Arab television.

Fox's body was found wrapped in a blanket around 5 p.m. Thursday in the Daoudi neighborhood in western Baghdad -- dumped on the main road near a train station. His hands and feet were bound, police said. He was wearing gray trousers and a gray shirt.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hostages; iraq; muslims; tomfox
More barbarism courtesy of the religion of peace.
1 posted on 03/11/2006 6:01:06 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Mr Fox had his eyes opened just before they were closed forever.


2 posted on 03/11/2006 6:03:49 AM PST by exnavy (God bless America)
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To: jimbo123

O gentle religion of muhammed
such as tom fox might have said
he met his end with your bullets
at least he didn't lose his head.


3 posted on 03/11/2006 6:04:14 AM PST by pipecorp (Let's have a CRUSADE! , the muslims never stopped. a 2010 useless reply odyssey.)
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To: jimbo123
Oh, I remember them.

Four idealistic humanists went over there to protest the war. I honestly can't say that I am surprised at the outcome. MAYBE, just MAYBE these humanists will finally understand that WAR is necessary to stop these EVIL people.
4 posted on 03/11/2006 6:06:38 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: exnavy

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=612e758a-8aba-4e75-a958-14b0a10c8c9b

An Iraqi police patrol was also at the scene, said Falah al-Mohammedawi, an official with the Interior Ministry, which oversees police. He said Fox was found with his hands tied and gun shot wounds to his head and chest. There were cuts on his body and bruises on his head, al-Mohammedawi said.


http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1139395580632&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Fox, from Clear Brook, Virginia, had demonstrated in the West Bank town of Jayyus against the construction of the security fence and he helped Palestinians pick olives, local Palestinians said.

"Tom used to sit in front of the (Israeli) bulldozers to block them," said Jayyus' mayor, Shawka Shamha. "Hearing news that he was killed makes me very sad."


5 posted on 03/11/2006 6:07:20 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: exnavy

This will be Jill Carroll's fate after her captors get tired of raping her.


6 posted on 03/11/2006 6:11:49 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

prayers for his family and soul


7 posted on 03/11/2006 6:13:55 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: jimbo123; exnavy; All
Fox was found with his hands tied and gun shot wounds to his head and chest. There were cuts on his body and bruises on his head

And his executioners shouted, "Allahu Akbar!" as they pumped him full of 7.62mm rounds.

Every snuff flick we see in country ends with the exact same formula.

Fox's last words were most likely a pathetic, "Why do you hate me?"

No sympathy. Better men than him lie wounded in Walter Reed.

8 posted on 03/11/2006 6:16:02 AM PST by Old Sarge (My vigor to fight has been renewed.)
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To: nmh
You've got it right!... it's ok to be idealistic, altruistic... but one has to have in mind reality.

That is exactly why I fear them!... because I know these are a different kind of "human beings" (/sarcasm). I know they would not mind blowing away 100,000 people if they could... they are the personification of "hate" itself.

9 posted on 03/11/2006 6:19:05 AM PST by ElPatriota (Let's not forget, we are all still friends despite our differences)
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To: jimbo123

I am sorry about Mr. Fox's unnecessary death. But I have to say -- the Peace Activists and Human Shields who go over there to LOVE the evil people should have to post security bonds before they leave, so THEY can be the ones who pay off the b**&turds when they demand money.

They go over there, mewling and pandering, are surprised by Reality, and then WE the taxpayers have to bail them out. And we end up funding our enemies to gain their release. When they don't represent us in the first place.

If they were our teenagers, we would be doing Tough Love.


10 posted on 03/11/2006 6:19:27 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: jimbo123
The kidnapped people were on the wrong side of the issue.

My guess is that their organization won't learn a thing and will send more people into the fires of hell.

11 posted on 03/11/2006 6:21:56 AM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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To: bboop

How did 'we the taxpayers' bail out Tom Fox?


12 posted on 03/11/2006 6:22:05 AM PST by Natchez Hawk (What's so funny about the first, second, and fourth Amendments?)
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To: jimbo123

Bet he was wishing he was in the hands of those same "evil" Israelis at the end, though! He appears to have been a well-meaning fool and I am sorry that it ended this way for him; but maybe other people who want to go olive picking with the Palestinians, mischief-making in Iraq, etc. will take notice.


13 posted on 03/11/2006 6:22:36 AM PST by livius
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To: exnavy
I am sorry that he had to end this way. No one should be subjected to these terrorists ways.

But I read that this "peace" group he was involved with was looking into Iraqi prisoners claims that they are being tortured by American troops..... Looks like his group is on the wrong side of the war on terror if you ask me.

14 posted on 03/11/2006 6:27:27 AM PST by b4its2late (There are good terrorists.............. DEAD ONES.)
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To: nmh
"Four idealistic humanists went over there to protest the war. I honestly can't say that I am surprised at the outcome. MAYBE, just MAYBE these humanists will finally understand that WAR is necessary to stop these EVIL people."

This is so basic that even the original STAR TREK got this one right. I don't want to trivialize this, but go back and watch the episode where Kirk and the gang beam down to the planet where they wage war by computer. As I recall, the idiot ambassador almost gets everybody killed. Happily, the "barbarian" Kirk blows up the computer ending the genocidal game.

The unfortunate hostages in Iraq must have felt about like the Ambassador in the Star Trek episode when he was informed by the alien council leader that he was to be killed. Too bad, the hostages didn't have the savvy but bloodthirsty Kirk and Scotty to save them. Let's hope America does not have to invoke "General Order 4" to bring the islamo-fascists to heel.

15 posted on 03/11/2006 6:30:19 AM PST by trek
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To: ElPatriota
I wonder what the fellow "peace activists" are thinking now ... . Pissed? Digging their heels in for more "martyrs"? Shocked into reality? What?
16 posted on 03/11/2006 6:31:33 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: exnavy

"He and Chicago co-director Carol Rose blamed the U.S. involvement in Iraq, backed by Britain, for the captives' dilemma, and urged both nations to release detained Iraqis."

this quotation is from the co-directors of the peace organization to which fox and the other hostages belong.
(it is from the article.)


17 posted on 03/11/2006 6:32:21 AM PST by drhogan
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To: trek

Think other "peace activists" will get it?

Or will they wallow in self pity?


18 posted on 03/11/2006 6:35:05 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: OldFriend

this group only protests oppression when it is being done by the US Canada, or Israel. (they have a web site i checked out awhile back.)
they don't protest much against oppression by communist or islamic regimes.
once the other hostages are murdered, this group will leave iraq and go back to canada and the US, where it is safe, and continue protesting against our evil oppressiveness.


19 posted on 03/11/2006 6:37:11 AM PST by drhogan
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To: trek

"the idiot ambassador almost gets everybody killed"

Their primary function, apparently.


20 posted on 03/11/2006 6:38:01 AM PST by Sabatier
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To: jimbo123

Every time these idiots go to Iraq, they give aid and comfort to the enemy and it costs American lives. But they don't care about you or me or American soldiers. They're narcissists who think they're better, smarter than everyone else. They're out to 'change the world'. Sound like MSM Journalism school graduates? They're all peas in the same pod.


21 posted on 03/11/2006 6:43:40 AM PST by hershey
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To: OldFriend

Lemmings.


22 posted on 03/11/2006 6:44:38 AM PST by hershey
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To: hershey

The thinking, if you can call it that, behind targeting the US and the west -- accusing us of the atrocity of the day and ignoring Jihad -- is publicity. The fact that we were attacked, in their view, simply means we deserved it. Why? Because we work hard and live well and most Arabs don't. This isn't fair. As if life is fair! Somehow the US should have fixed the Middle East so that Arabs lived high off the hog. That, however, would have been colonialism...and that's a dirty word.


23 posted on 03/11/2006 6:55:10 AM PST by hershey
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To: jimbo123
Well, I guess this might put a damper on the whole Fake Kidnapping trend.
24 posted on 03/11/2006 6:57:05 AM PST by bondjamesbond (RICE '08)
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To: Tribune7

Yes, he may have been a little misguided in his seemingly pro-terrorist activism, but he deserves prayes rather than scorn. Even for the cold-hearted, there is no comprehensible sense in belittling the dead. The man suffered terribly. He and his loved ones have my prayers.


25 posted on 03/11/2006 6:58:46 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: nmh

>I wonder what the fellow "peace activists" are thinking now ... . Pissed? Digging their heels in for more "martyrs"? Shocked into reality? What?<

Oh, come now. You know the answer. They're really, really mad that George Bush made the widdle jehadis kill Tom Fox. They blame America, and the bad US military, but most of all...

It's Bush's Fault®!


26 posted on 03/11/2006 7:00:25 AM PST by Darnright (Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.)
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To: jimbo123

When is the UN going to come arrest them for violating the Geneva convention?


27 posted on 03/11/2006 7:00:54 AM PST by 308MBR ("Ah fell in ta a bhurnin' ring o' far")
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To: nmh
I wonder what the fellow "peace activists" are thinking now ...

I have no idea... this is a world I simply don't understand!... I am sure they must be shocked!...and will be even more it the kill that other woman reporter... that would be something.

28 posted on 03/11/2006 7:12:58 AM PST by ElPatriota (Let's not forget, we are all still friends despite our differences)
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To: hershey
There is a very dangerous part to their 'ideals'.

The kidnappings are for cash which is often paid. This money feeds the terrorists.

Hurts our troops and prolongs the agony of the Iraqi people who would like to live their lives in peace.

29 posted on 03/11/2006 7:27:32 AM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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To: nmh

Don't count on it.


30 posted on 03/11/2006 7:52:13 AM PST by stop_fascism
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To: Old Sarge; usmcobra; Coop

Agreed.

Isn't this wonderful:

"A music major, Fox graduated from college in May 1973. Though he was unwilling to participate in U.S. military actions in Vietnam, he auditioned for and earned a spot in the Marine Band, based in Washington, where he played to support his family."

Consciencious objector Quaker joins the Corps? More like an opportunist joined to pay off his college loans. Reminds me of the boy who joined the Corps to pay for college and when he decided it wasn't his cup of tea- swallowed water at Parris Island.


31 posted on 03/11/2006 8:04:46 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: freema

He must have been the flutist.


32 posted on 03/11/2006 8:16:47 AM PST by usmcobra (I always sing Karaoke the way it is meant to be sung, drunk, badly, and in Japanese)
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To: usmcobra

I bit my fingers to keep from typing something to that effect ; )


33 posted on 03/11/2006 9:02:21 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine FRiend, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: Darnright
Ooops, I forgot!

Of course it's Bush's fault that they are not regarded as peaceful troubadours and thought the world of.

You know, I ofter wonder, how can these people call themselves Christians? HOW? The Old Testament is full of wars were evil is eliminated by war. It was God who directed these wars. The Jews were often outnumbered. The Judeo Christian God used war to rid the Jews of their enemies. If you don't evil will prevail.

It's just so frustrating from a Christian perspective and even from a secular perspective that common sense is mia. They should label themselves secular humanists because they certainly aren't Christians.
34 posted on 03/11/2006 9:05:10 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: ElPatriota

It's sad that people are so *** stupid/dumb. Excuse my French. What a wasted life.


35 posted on 03/11/2006 9:06:35 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: Natchez Hawk
How did 'we the taxpayers' bail out Tom Fox?

Certainly doesn't look like he, or we, got our money's worth.

36 posted on 03/11/2006 9:09:39 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: stop_fascism
Our family just had a cousin sent over to Iraq. He's not a soldier. He's part of the C.I.A. and does under cover work. God forbid if something should happen to him, at least I know I'll see him in heaven. He's been very lucky. The Economist, a British magazine had an article on a few Americans shot execution style in South America. It happened to be on the table while he was visiting us with his wife. He picked it up and I saw his eyes water. It turned out they were his buddies. He just missed being taken by some drug people. I pray he's lucky in Iraq. He knows only too well how utterly evil some people are and yet he can't discuss it except in generalities.
37 posted on 03/11/2006 9:11:11 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: jimbo123

I finally found out on the news that this guy is a Quaker. First, Quaker meeting houses have over the years become headquarters for nothing more religious than "peace" organizations which, themselves, only desire peace in the context of stopping the American military under a Republican president. Second, even genuine Quakers don't view themselves as Christian. Theirs is a revealed religion. That is, God speaks directly to them. Christ and indeed any scripture of any kind is meaningless.


38 posted on 03/11/2006 9:12:25 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: Old Sarge

I wonder if his true last words might have been, "But we had a deal!"


39 posted on 03/11/2006 9:13:32 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: nmh
I wonder what the fellow "peace activists" are thinking now

From their statment on their website(http://www.cpt.org/iraq/response/06-10-03statement.htm):

"In response to Tom’s passing, we ask that everyone set aside inclinations to vilify or demonize others, no matter what they have done. In Tom’s own words: "We reject violence to punish anyone. We ask that there be no retaliation on relatives or property. We forgive those who consider us their enemies. We hope that in loving both friends and enemies and by intervening nonviolently to aid those who are systematically oppressed, we can contribute in some small way to transforming this volatile situation."

Even as we grieve the loss of our beloved colleague, we stand in the light of his strong witness to the power of love and the courage of nonviolence. That light reveals the way out of fear and grief and war."

So they obviously don't get it.

40 posted on 03/11/2006 9:19:26 AM PST by American72 (Sick of Democrats)
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To: b4its2late

You are correct.


41 posted on 03/11/2006 9:29:32 AM PST by exnavy (God bless America)
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To: nmh
You know, I ofter wonder, how can these people call themselves Christians? HOW? The Old Testament is full of wars were evil is eliminated by war. It was God who directed these wars.

I wonder the same thing. This week I've been reading some 'devotionals' from a pastor who would probably fit in well with these people. He's been receiving emails back describing the Old Testament wars you speak of. Here is part of his response:

"Earlier this week I heard from a reader (actually I have heard from several dozen readers every day) who wanted me to know that the biblical way to wage war was to utterly annihilate and completely destroy the enemy. He gave some Old Testament examples. They aren't hard to find. The one above from Joshua isn't unusual at all, arguing that God blessed Joshua's troops so they could kill 12,000 men and women but save the livestock and whatever else they found valuable as booty.

I wrote back. (I normally answer all emails but haven't even tried given the deluge I've received this week) I challenged him with the words of Jesus that we are called to love our enemy and pray for those who persecute us. He wasn't convinced. Oh well, at least we're talking.

My point wasn't to win an argument. That part is irrelevant to me. The point, as it always is, is to grapple with the faith. To wrestle with the Bible until, like the angel in the wilderness with Isaac, God gives us a blessing. The war in Iraq is but one example where people of faith, people of all faiths for that matter, are forced to struggle with faithful ideals and physical raw deals."

It is next to impossible to speak reason with people like this.

42 posted on 03/11/2006 9:31:31 AM PST by American72 (Sick of Democrats)
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To: AmishDude
Why dosen´t Jane Fonda go to Iraq and sit on an anti aircraft gun and pose for the terrorists like she did for the NVA?

There were Quakers against the VN war too. I often wonder what they would have thought if they had been thrown into the cells with our POWs. But the communists were too politically astute to do that, they just used them against their fellow countrymen and prolonged the war until they could win.

The Moslem terrorists are too stupid and barbaric to use these fools against us.
43 posted on 03/11/2006 9:40:48 AM PST by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: American72
I'm right with you!

It's so exasperating!

I'd say we're right about here:


2Tim.4:3

[3] For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

And

2Thes.2:3

[3] Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

The "falling away" is definitely going on and people are believing what they WANT to believe rather than what God has stated.

If you go through, Numbers, Deut. and Levit. you'll see OUR punishments for crimes. Yes, capital punishment is there. So is, first and second degree murder etc.. Yet people will knock themselves out, denying that our laws and punishments were Bible related.

In our capital, there's Moses, the lawgiver looking down with a full frontal view of his face while other lawgivers only have a profile. Still they want to erase and deny that our country was founded on Judeo Christian principles. It's so sad.
44 posted on 03/11/2006 9:43:36 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: Natchez Hawk

We didn't bail him out. But when the IslamoPigs demand ransom, good people spring for it. Often governments. ie taxpayers. Do we pay ransoms? Sometimes I bet we do.


45 posted on 03/11/2006 10:38:44 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: OldFriend
My guess is that their organization won't learn a thing and will send more people into the fires of hell.

Indeed, before Mr. Fox's body was even cold, I heard a spokesperson for the organization to which he belonged "forgive" his killers.

46 posted on 03/11/2006 10:45:13 AM PST by bluefish (Holding out for worthy tagline...)
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To: nmh

I don't think they will get it. They will just blame Bush for Tom Fox's death. Just like that dad blamed Bush for his son/ Nicholas Berg's death.


47 posted on 03/11/2006 10:47:03 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: nmh
>It's just so frustrating from a Christian perspective and even from a secular perspective that common sense is mia.<

You bring up a good point. If these so-called non-violent people were truly sincere, why do they not call on the jehadi to renounce violence? Why to they always go over to Palestine, or Iraq, etc., and bash the USA, as the origin of the violence and of the war?

They don't do so, because they know that, after the terrorists stopped laughing, they'd pick up their swords and lop the anti-war protesters' heads off.
48 posted on 03/11/2006 1:03:58 PM PST by Darnright (Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.)
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To: AmishDude
Correcto!!! They have never been part of othrodox Christianity. They believe creeds and the words of Scripture are irrelevant. After all, why do you need the objective text when you can get it directly from the Almighty? However, what these misguided souls don't realize is that lying spirits work to deceive those not founded and grounded in the historic creeds (which are the teachings of Scripture in condensed form) and in the text of the Bible itself. The Scriptures, creeds, confessions, and cathecisms are anchors that keep the believer from floating endlessly into a muddled sea of subjective experience.
50 posted on 03/12/2006 3:55:10 PM PST by attiladhun2 (evolution has both deified and degraded humanity)
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