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Ashes of two euthanized bears buried during emotional service
The Washington Times ^ | 3-7-06 | Metro

Posted on 03/07/2006 11:16:50 AM PST by JZelle

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To: freeangel

That's a bit strong. The rabies shots do have side effects, whereas the bears can be tested for rabies, but only by killing them. I think the parents made the right decision for their child - after the fact. They definitely were negligent and caused this whole series of events. Maybe they should have to replace the bears. (I mean with new bears).


41 posted on 03/07/2006 12:07:41 PM PST by Williams
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To: freeangel

This story is getting a little curiouser everyday. Apparently the mother of the child told one story at the hospital and another story after she hired a big-time (and cheesy) local criminal defense lawyer. To this date she has not been charged...however she is alleged to have told staff at St Mary's hospital (where she took the child) that she couldn't understand how this had happened as they have been going to Maymont to feed the bears for several years.


42 posted on 03/07/2006 12:10:21 PM PST by dogcaller
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To: Sax

> So do we have an animal caste system then?

In a sense. Bears are *bigger* than your average roadkill. And these bears were already in captivity, thus they were the *responsibility* of people... people who not only let them down, but let them down and then put them down because the humans screwed up.

It's sorta the difference between not paying much attention to the sheep my neighbors raise, knowing that many (most? All?) of them will be turned into fluff and food and not being the slightest bit upset about that... and hypothetically becoming quite upset at finding that some other neighbor's pet sheep has been beaten to death by some drunken punks.

It's not just the fact that a critter has died, but *why*.


43 posted on 03/07/2006 12:20:15 PM PST by orionblamblam (A furore Normannorum libra nos, Domine)
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To: jjmcgo
The mother of the child who was bit by a bear at Maymont Park speaks out for the first time. The bears were both euthanized for rabies testing which caused a huge public outcry. 8News spoke with the child's mother on the condition we protect her identity... "I looked to the right for the other bear cause there's two and I only saw one...when I looked back my son was getting ready to put his hand through a fence, and I jumped over the fence and grabbed him." http://www.wric.com/Global/story.asp?S=4589113&nav=menu28_2_8

The FDA has approved several injectable products that are effective in preventing rabies in people who have been exposed to the virus. This post-exposure treatment consists of one injection of proteins that fight the infection (rabies immune globulin) and five injections of rabies vaccine over a 28-day period.

Yes, he should have gone through the series. And note there was a fence, before the fence. She looked away for a minute? Perhaps another freeper can find the original story which also indicated she didn't seek attention for hours. The whole story isn't here.

44 posted on 03/07/2006 12:23:31 PM PST by EBH (We're too PC to understand WAR has been declared upon us and the enemy is within.)
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To: Smedley

And why not? They ARE, after all, members of the PIG family.


45 posted on 03/07/2006 12:24:22 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: Smedley
I hear that bear taste a lot like pork.

Trick is to quickly strip off the hide and fat as the first part of dressing out the bear. And slow cooking.

46 posted on 03/07/2006 12:26:19 PM PST by HolgerDansk ("Oh Bother", said Pooh, as he worked the bolt.)
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To: Smedley

And why not? They ARE, after all, members of the PIG family.


47 posted on 03/07/2006 12:27:04 PM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: EBH

Older rabies vaccines required painful, daily injections in the abdomen for up to three weeks, and they could produce severe side effects, says Levis. Today's rabies vaccines require fewer injections, are given in the arm, and have few serious side effects.


48 posted on 03/07/2006 12:30:24 PM PST by EBH (We're too PC to understand WAR has been declared upon us and the enemy is within.)
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To: george76

"Black bears are good at hunting children.

Black bears love to kill and eat humans."

I suggest reducing your consumption of halucinagens or produce documentation showing the number of humans/children killed by Black bears over the last 10 years.


49 posted on 03/07/2006 12:30:44 PM PST by BadAndy (I miss the days when people didn't celebrate their perversions.)
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To: I still care
The mother of the bitten child told the Richmond Times-Dispatch that she and her son were sharing an apple at the park when she turned her head for a few seconds. When she turned back around, she said, her son had gotten through a wooden fence and was standing outside the 10-foot chain-link fence that surrounds the bear habitat.

Sounds like she sent the kid to feed the bear an apple. I think the officials did the right thing, but I hope they send the stupid woman a bill.

50 posted on 03/07/2006 12:34:12 PM PST by stop_fascism
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To: BadAndy

Bear ate a kid in the Catskills about two years ago. Several hikers attacked in New Jersey last summer.
States of NY and PA have both complained to state of NJ about their out-of-control bear populations.
Sometimes black bears don't attack, sometimes they do. They have different behaviors in different seasons and as a result of bear-population density. Extra bears? Extra hungry. The well-fed bear that runs off in July starts thinking you look pretty good a few weeks after the frost. Gee, bears are unpredictable, huge predators. Whooda thunkit?
Some of us have known it for a long time.


51 posted on 03/07/2006 12:36:59 PM PST by jjmcgo (Patriarch of the Occident since March 1, 2006)
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To: jjmcgo

"Bear ate a kid in the Catskills about two years ago. Several hikers attacked in New Jersey last summer. "

I didn't say it never happens, but it is an extremely rare event. Black bears in the lower 48 states are pretty wary of humans. One theory is that any black bear that didn't run like hell when he saw a human was killed back in the 18 and 1900's.


52 posted on 03/07/2006 12:42:57 PM PST by BadAndy (I miss the days when people didn't celebrate their perversions.)
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To: orionblamblam
Ok, bears are bigger - what does that say?

Yes, the bears were the responsibility of people. Don't know exactly how negligent the Mom was, or how negligent the keepers were, and in fact, I'm not interested in speculating that.

Once the kid is bit, the decision is this that these animals need to be put down to prevent further pain to the child.

If you want to attempt to prosecute or sue the mother for negligent action, fine with me.

It's my personal opinion that a full blown service for these animals is silly. They were put down to prevent a child from enduring further pain.

Animals have a monetary value which can be agreed upon by impartial parties. An emotional value is personally assigned and varies greatly. Yes, I understand that humans tend to put a higher emotional value on animals they observe to have higher functioning thought processes, but again, that's arbitrary and just a trend of the collective feelings of individuals.

I personally wouldn't feel any better or worse whether it was an opossum or a black bear that was put down to prevent this child's pain.
53 posted on 03/07/2006 12:44:35 PM PST by Sax
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To: BadAndy

Yo BadAndy: One thing that a lot of people don't realize is that wildlife officials estimate that there are more bear and deer in the Northeast than at any time in history. A lot of people think these animals are just beginning to come back after a mass slaughter.
True, they were killed in great numbers but they've come back in greater numbers.
The number of deer or bear you can keep in an area is a mathematical formula. Exceed the number, expand the range.


54 posted on 03/07/2006 12:51:35 PM PST by jjmcgo (Patriarch of the Occident since March 1, 2006)
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To: JZelle

Bump


55 posted on 03/07/2006 12:55:15 PM PST by AmericaUnite
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To: BadAndy

In North America approximately 45 fatalities have been attributed to black bears since 1900. More than half of those fatalities have happened since 1970.

Although historic information regarding black bear attacks in Washington is not well documented, one fatality and three attacks have been recorded.

Bears will usually avoid people, but their size, strength and surprising speed make them a potential danger...

http://www.wdfw.wa.gov/wlm/game/blkbear/blkbear4.htm


56 posted on 03/07/2006 1:04:47 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: BadAndy

Bear Mauls and Kills Infant in New York State

Associated Press
August 19, 2002

A bear killed an infant Monday afternoon as it tried to drag the girl into the woods, officials said. The baby, Ester Schwimmer of Brooklyn, was snatched out of her stroller by the bear at the bungalow colony, police said. Fallsburg is about 70 miles northwest of New York City.

Isaac Abraham, a community leader from Williamsburg in Brooklyn, said witnesses told him the 5-month-old girl was pronounced dead at a nearby hospital upon arrival.

The baby was in a stroller in front of the porch with members of her family, said Mike Fraser, a state Department of Environmental Conservation spokesman. The bear grabbed the stroller and the child, Fraser said.

The child was knocked out of the stroller and the bear tried to drag her into the woods, Fraser said.

Her father was able to get the infant away from the bear, which reportedly ran up a tree.

http://www.maineguides.org/referendum/bear_attacks01.shtml


57 posted on 03/07/2006 1:08:03 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: BadAndy

Bear Kills 93 Year-Old New Mexico Woman

By Joe Garner
Scripps Howard News Service
August 21, 2001

The 100-pound elderly woman didn't have a chance against a 275-pound bear in the kitchen of her home, wildlife officials point to bears desperate for food as the continuing cause of people-bear incidents.

A 93-year-old New Mexico woman was mauled to death by a black bear that broke into her home over the weekend, stunned wildlife officials have confirmed.

Adelia Maestas Trujillo of Cleveland, in north-central New Mexico, was killed "by multiple bite injuries," said Scott Wilson, associate director of the Office of Medical Investigator.…


58 posted on 03/07/2006 1:10:30 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: JZelle

My daughter and I have visited Maymont more times than I can count. To me, it's a contradictory message to her to tell her that the bears she has visited for over a decade were thrown away in the landfill like trash. She squarely blames the parent and understands why the bears were euthanized, but not the landfill part. To her, it's like the family dog who dies and whose remains are handled respectfully.

Fine - do the rabies tests. Fine - charge the mother. I'm no tree hugger, just the Mom of an 11 year old who is trying to make sense of it all. I also agree that the memorial service was way over the top.


59 posted on 03/07/2006 1:10:53 PM PST by kdot
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To: BadAndy

Bear Attack Leaves Two Campers Injured - Episode a First at National Park Since Early 1970s

By Tillie Fong
Rocky Mountain News
July 15, 2003

ROCKY MOUNTAIN NATIONAL PARK - Two men were mauled by a black bear while they were camping near Fern Lake, and one said Monday "it was extreme pain and a whole lot of blood," yet he vowed not to be deterred from future outings.

"I just woke up, and it was a blur in my head, then the blood was going everywhere," said Boulder resident Patrick Finan, 22, of the attack early Sunday. "The bear was standing outside my tent, staring in."

Finan and Tim Schuett, 23, of Glen Ellyn, Ill., were treated and released from a hospital in Estes Park Sunday. Finan had bite marks on his forehead and scalp, and Schuett had a laceration on the top of his head.

"It's rare for bears to attack people (in the park) - the last time was in 1971," said Kyle Patterson, spokeswoman for Rocky Mountain National Park.

"It appears that all the folks did everything they could to store food properly. This bear's behavior is extremely aggressive. Some bears are frightened when they see people, but this particular bear does not seem to be afraid of people. There was no food in the tents. The bear was going for the campers."

An eight-mile area from Bear Lake to Fern Lake, including Odessa Gorge, was closed Sunday to campers and hikers while rangers searched for the bear...


60 posted on 03/07/2006 1:13:35 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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