Bush says outsourcing benefits U.S. in long run-India's growing middle class seen as a key market

Chron.com ^ | 3-5-06 | JULIE MASON

[kitkat]

***"India's middle class is buying air-conditioners, kitchen appliances and washing machines, and a lot of them from American companies like GE and Whirlpool and Westinghouse," Bush said recently.***

Interesting that our unemployment is 4%.

[RockyMtnMan]

Free Trade is about pumping up equity holdings for boomers so the Fed can cut SS benefits later. They will be less likely to bitch and moan if their IRA's are overflowing.

It's the same ol' story, the oldsters in power are looking for a way to keep or improve their lifestyle at the expense of the younger generations. Boomers have been trashing the younger generations for years and have started believing their own lies about how "lazy and stupid" everyone after them are. Now they are taking it to the next level and removing all entry level opportunities in a broad range of professions.

[stm]

I know one thing, I have never called Dell's customer service and not talked to someone named Singh or something like it. Granted their english is better than my hindi but I still have a hard time communicating

[1rudeboy]

Dell to Build Third U.S. Manufacturing Plant

With demand for its desktop PCs growing, Dell last week unveiled plans to build a third U.S. manufacturing facility, in North Carolina, to open next fall. The plant will build computers for Dell's commercial and consumer customers on the East Coast.

Dell's other U.S. manufacturing plants are in Lebanon, Tenn., and Austin, Texas.

About 700 new jobs will be created in the first year, and that number will scale to more than 1,500 in five years, Dell officials said.

[babygene]

"Dell"

Wrong again, as usual. They are all made off shore. And Micron in Boise is the only U.S. provider of memory.

[GrandEagle]

Could be if you don't look around.
A few of these I just happen to know about personally.
Helped close plants here and open them overseas.
For example, Personal pleasure boats.
I don't know about the boats at all, but the the outboards I do.
The larger ones are still being made here, but under about 70 horse (depending on manufacturer) are imported fully assembled from overseas, re-crated and sold as a US product.
Large inboards, - overseas.

Air conditioner's two of the major manufacturers are opening all their new facility's over seas, and the upgrades to equipment here are half-done just to limp them through until the Chinese plants open.
This I know - I helped do it.

I surely can't claim to know about everything on the list, but the items that I do know about are BS. If the same pattern applies to what I don't know about we are truly in trouble.

We bought a Maytag washer/dryer combo last year thinking that it was one of the last US products. I had to dig into it last month. All foreign parts.
GE dishwasher last month, They don't even pretend anymore, All of the labels inside on the parts are in Chinese. Since I can't read Chinese I don't know for user but I'll bet it doesn't say "made in the USA".
Open any consumer electronic product in your home. Nothing is made here.

If you don't believe your government would lie to you then we truly are in trouble.

Cordially,
GE

[hedgetrimmer]

While Dell does not manufacture its own components or subassemblies, it does handle final assembly for nearly all of its desktop PCs and servers. Notebook PCs are manufactured by Taiwanese manufacturers Quanta and Compal. In some cases the notebook PCs are shipped complete to the final customer.

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The jist of it is, Dell assembles some computers in the US,but because India taxes their computer imports, Dell will start to assemble them in India, so they won't be exported from the US anymore. Even though we have a "free trade" agreement with them, India is taxing imports from us.

"free trade" is about as phony as you can get, but "wealth redistribution agreements" wouldn't fly with the American people so they had to call it something else.

[babygene]

"Dell last week unveiled plans to build a third U.S. manufacturing facility, in North Carolina, to open next fall. The plant will build computers for Dell's commercial and consumer customers on the East Coast."

The problem is that the mother boards, power supplies and other parts are made in thew far east. They are just assembled here by $8 an hour workers.

I don't call that an U.S. product...

[Fruitbat]

You beat me to it... We're moving to a "service economy." Exactly what services will we be exporting. More importantly, what services will people here in the states be buying?

Also, why is it that it's bad when we lose manufacturing? If people here have better paying jobs in services, then what's the big deal? I ask seriously.

[hedgetrimmer]

There are no T.V.'s that I am aware of manufactured in the US.

Maybe those figure really represent the North American Union, including Canada and Mexico, instead of the US.

[1rudeboy]

Intel joins other techies building plants in USA
No. 1 chipmaker Intel (INTC) on Monday announced plans to build a cutting-edge semiconductor plant in Chandler, Ariz., near Phoenix. The plant, which will cost $3 billion, will employ about 1,000 workers when completed in 2007.

Intel also said it would spend $105 million to revamp an old factory in New Mexico that is now idle. About 300 jobs will be created there.

Other tech firms are building U.S. plants, too. No. 1 PC maker Dell (DELL) recently broke ground on a giant factory in Winston-Salem, N.C. Computer memory-maker Infineon Technologies (IFX) expanded its Richmond, Va., plant last year. And giant IBM (IBM) opened a huge chipmaking plant in East Fishkill, N.Y., in 2002.

[Fruitbat]

Interesting that our unemployment is 4%.

Right, which is below levels that some thought impossible up until not too long ago.

[1rudeboy]

They are just assembled here by $8 an hour workers.

That argument doesn't wash. A $8 an hour assembly job would be the first type of job to be off-shored.

[hedgetrimmer]

About 700 new jobs will be created in the first year,

as opposed to the 5,000 jobs its adding to India this year.

[GrandEagle]

Maybe those figure really represent the North American Union
Could be, I don't know. Most of what I see are made in China or Thailand.

Made in Mexico doesn't help US at all.

[1rudeboy]

Those 5,000 jobs are call-center jobs. You prefer those over manufacturing jobs? LOL

[babygene]

Like I said before, "wrong again, as usual".

[Fruitbat]

I yet to understand what this President is thinking, I do not feel that he has our best interest in mind.....

I'm sorry, but I am very disappointed in Bush.. : (

I agree with you here. He's done some good things, one of which is arguably the most important, the USSC justices. Tax cuts and taking the WOT off of our soil. But he's also neglected a good number of things and handles the media with the savvy of the Three Stooges catering a high classed wedding.

Ya have no choice but to wonder sometimes as the borders are porous, spending has gone nuts, what's gonna turn into one of the biggest, and irreversible IMO, entitlement programs, the Rx drug program, along with what looks like the makin's of yet another "amnesty" deal w/ illegals at some point.

He certainly doesn't act conservative many times on issues. Frankly, other than the USSC justices, his legacy has been built on 9/11 having happened. I doubt he would have engaged in any of the WOT things had that not happened. Sadly, it took that to get us to pull our heads out of our sphincters.

[GrandEagle]

Also, why is it that it's bad when we lose manufacturing? If people here have better paying jobs in services, then what's the big deal? I ask seriously.
I've not seen these better paying services jobs. I have however seen several of my peers remain unemployed for 4-5 years then finally landing a job for 45% or their previous salary.
In addition, what you will need to remember, is you can not defend a nation using services. We would have lost WWII without manufacturing.

Cordially,
GE

[hedgetrimmer]

why is it that it's bad when we lose manufacturing?

You have to MAKE stuff to create wealth. If you are providing a service, you're just shifting money around. If America cannot protect a climate and system that allows people to create their own wealth,protecting the right of Americans to operate under their own free will, then it has fallen far from the purpose of the American Revolution.