Posted on 02/28/2006 7:35:00 PM PST by Brian_Baldwin
It has been stomach-turning to listen to flunkies for Bush such as Rush Limbaugh et all call patriots who want to secure our borders racist for being anti-Arab regarding the port deal. Whos the racist? Who the hell do you think you are - you think this is a game?
Dubai Ports World is anti-Semitic, bottom line, a bunch of Nazis, and U.S. law prohibits doing business with companies who boycott Israel . The whole story regarding Dubai ports firm enforcing Israel boycott is enough of the facts to be the end of this entire deal, dead in the water. You Bushies who called others racist for being anit-Arab, let me turn the coin on you - you hate Jews, isnt?
So you want the Jews to be put in the gas-chambers, right? That is why you support the anti-Semitic Dubai Ports World, right? You flunkies who support this anti-American port deal just because you are water carriers for Bush, let me tell you - Im going to the Jewish community, Im going to get the message out regarding all of you who called patriots racists for being anti-Arab:
. . . is President Bush a closet anti-Semite?
. . . Bushies for Zyklon B?
Is that what it is? Youre not? Then, why do you support Nazis like Dubai Ports World, then? I think the Jewish community needs to know. And ask the questions. After all, you called other patriots anti-Arab. Are you anti-Jew?
I think maybe you are. Oh, you dont like being called racist?
Well, maybe you are racist. I think the Jewish community in America needs to consider.
Just whose side you are on.
It isnt a question. Now just watch. You like playing politics with the race card? Ok. Now just watch.
The parent company of a Dubai-based firm at the center of a political storm in the US over the purchase of American ports participates in the Arab boycott against Israel, The Jerusalem Post has learned.
The firm, Dubai Ports World, is seeking control over six major US ports, including those in New York, Miami, Philadelphia and Baltimore. It is entirely owned by the Government of Dubai via a holding company called the Ports, Customs and Free Zone Corporation (PCZC), which consists of the Dubai Port Authority, the Dubai Customs Department and the Jebel Ali Free Zone Area.
"Yes, of course the boycott is still in place and is still enforced," Muhammad Rashid a-Din, a staff member of the Dubai Customs Department's Office for the Boycott of Israel, told the Post in a telephone interview.
"If a product contained even some components that were made in Israel, and you wanted to import it to Dubai, it would be a problem," he said.
A-Din noted that while the head office for the anti-Israel boycott sits in Damascus, he and his fellow staff members are paid employees of the Dubai Customs Department, which is a division of the PCZC, the same Dubai government-owned entity that runs Dubai Ports World.
Moreover, the Post found that the website for Dubai's Jebel Ali Free Zone Area, which is also part of the PCZC, advises importers that they will need to comply with the terms of the boycott.
In a section entitled "Frequently Asked Questions", the site lists six documents that are required in order to clear an item through the Dubai Customs Department. One of them, called a "Certificate of Origin," "is used by customs to confirm the country of origin and needs to be seen by the office which ensures any trade boycotts are enforced," according to the website.
A-Din of the Israel boycott office confirmed that his office examines certificates of origin as a means of verifying whether a product originated in the Jewish state.
On at least three separate occasions last year, the Post has learned, companies were fined by the US government's Office of Anti-boycott Compliance, an arm of the Commerce Department, on charges connected to boycott-related requests they had received from the Government of Dubai.
US law bars firms from complying with such requests or cooperating with attempts by Arab governments to boycott Israel.
In one instance, according to a Commerce Department press release, a New York-based exporter agreed to pay a fine for having "failed to report in a timely manner its receipts of requests from Dubai" to provide certification that its products had not been made in Israel.
The proposed handover of US ports to DP World has provoked a political storm in Washington, where Republicans and Democrats alike have expressed hostility to the plan, citing national security concerns.
In an attempt to stave off opposition, DP World agreed over the weekend to a highly unusual 45-day second federal investigation of potential security risks.
I am interested in this argument-- though I do think that anti-port advocates are being racist and nativist.
Do you have evidence that the Dubai coporation would enforce such a ban at a US port? Your article seems to suggest that they conform to local laws in Arab ports. Such laws are stupid and anti-semitic but I am not sure the Dubai corporation can change those laws.
Not another Baldwin brother...
So, how do I know that? Well, he used the expression "is seeking control over six major US ports" in his article. Since that's not really what is going on, that identifies his piece as essentially propaganda, and leftwing propaganda at that.
These guys want to brew up a rift between the USA and UAE such that we have to withdraw our forces from there. Inasmuch as UAE is our major marshalling yard to support all of our forces, including two fleets, in the Middle East, that would be an unmitigated disaster for the United States.
In short, this is just more enemy talk.
When is "W" going to show some cojones and toss these people in the clink for the duration just like Woodrow Wilson?
(((( Ping ))))
What I want to know is when are we going to take back the Chinese run ports?
Didn't an official of the Chinese government say they were going to destroy us a few months ago? Is it a good idea to allow a country that makes threats against us to control ports at our border?
What so funny about this is there is a thread where The Church of England is making moves to divest from Israel. Shall we boycott the UK. How about all this liberal mainline Protestant churches that are making political points by trying to Divest. No Espicoplains running our ports there anti Israel!!! This is getting to be ludriocus.
I am very pro Israel but the key is to bring the UAE into the World more. Hatred and prejudices will fade and progress will be made. The Israeli card is being used in desperation.
Trash talk from a scum bag?
And I can't figure out why this isn't pushed to Bloggers and Personal...it is just another poorly written, vitriolic vanity.
Well I see the Port Deal Hysterics are still lying about the deal. Wonder if for 30 seconds they can shut their hysteric ignorant aggressively dumb mouths and LEARN something.
US Local Government Port Authorities run our ports. Out of 300 terminals in 6 ports Dubai Ports signed an agreement to buy the company that holds leases on 9 of those terminals. It is no different then an airline running gates at an Airport. They do not "Control" the Airports. That is just more stupid PR being spewed by the Democrat Senate Election Committee. IF you would put your rabid racist paranoia on hold and actually bother to READ and LISTEN to Rush, you would know these facts. Unfortunately it seems you would rather cling to your hate based bigotry and scream your ignorance here night after night.
Those who don't oppose the "port deal" are not "flunkies for Bush".
I have been all over him on the immigration issue.
This port deal needs to be decided on facts. I've noted that those that oppose it have been overlooking many of them.
Who the hell is Brian Baldwin, and why should anyone give a rat's ass what he thinks?
And I got banned for two days once for posting the daily Rush thread in the wrong place! Guess it all depends who is Moderating.
LOL!
Most Jews vote democratic. That's why some republicans believe it safe to support the muslims...The Jews aren't going to vote for them anyway. Add to that there are more muslims in America than Jews...you have a recipe for monetary and political gain by supporting muslims.
Also maybe it me but isnt there a benefit we get the closer we get to this company. Like more interation more security. Perhaps having more observors in the other ports they own. I really dont think this company is going anywhere but up from what I have seen and no anti islamic hysteria is going to stop those world wide market forces.
I am interested in this argument-- though I do think that anti-port advocates are being racist and nativist.
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Anyone who disagrees with you about anything is probably being racist.
Do you think the average American Muslim cares 2 cents about this shipping company. They might now because its been made into you cant trust muslim issue. But seriously are Muslims seating at home deciding their votes because the UAE or any other Muslim country gets a shipping contract?
and he won't ever respond either.
It's either Michael Savage or a drunk
---So you want the Jews to be put in the gas-chambers, right? That is why you support the anti-Semitic Dubai Ports World, right? You flunkies who support this anti-American port deal just because you are water carriers for Bush, let me tell you - Im going to the Jewish community, Im going to get the message out regarding all of you who called patriots racists for being anti-Arab:---
You seem like a fairly nasty piece of work.
It is hard to cut through the fog on both sides. Here's the issue -- and it is neither racist nor 'nativist'-- this is a corporation wholly-owned by one of the few governments in the world that actively supports Wahabi Mohamedanism -- the strain of this primitive religion which actively supports 9-11 style attacks on non-Mohamedans.
By means of this deal, the corporation will gain access to several hundred new visas for their 'managers' by reason of their new role as 'managers' of the ports. While it is true that they will still have to play 'catch us if you can' with US Customs and DHS, their ability to station Wahabist Mohamedans in the infrastructure of our major ports will at a minimum complicate the Customs/DHS task.
It is not their 'race' (ie your 'racist' charge) or their country of origin (ie your 'nativist' charge) which gives concern, it is their government's active support for the very philosophy which caused the loss of life on 9-11.
This is not the NFL or MLB where we give the last place team the first draft pick to make the contest more competitive. We do not want the Mohamedan terrorists to become more competitive. If the UAE government were to openly renounce Wahabism in favor of some 'live-and-let-live' form of Mohamedanism, I would allow the deal to go through. But they won't and so I wouldn't either. I believe in self-defense.
My screen namesame once defined a 'liberal' as one so broadminded that he could not take his own side in a quarrel. Let us hope we will not be so 'liberal' in this instance.
How do you get banned. Have you seen some of the "keyword" people have been adding to these threads. I really would like to know. For instance can someone tell me why for instance "towelheads" and other deogratory terms are ok on a consistent basis. For instance on a thread discussing catholics can a person enter a keyword such as "Papist". or a thread dealing with African American issues can one enter a key word such as "porchmonkey" For the record I hate both of those words since I am a Catholic and two am not racist and they would certaintly put me in hot water with my black gf.
Cant we just vet their folks through the cia and fbi. I mean we have Americans here that practice that faith. I suspect that will happen anyway.
Last time I checked you can't support the Wahabi position and donate land to a Christian church ~ something that's already been done for 3 Christian churches.
I f I am right there is just one tribe out of six there that is is really wahabbi but I need to double check
These continue to try to show they are "worthy" by regularly attempting to overthrow whoever it is trying to rule Yemen.
At the same time there are parts of Saudi that didn't want in. They are treated brutally by the Saudis all the time.
All is not as it seems in the Peninsula!
" But seriously are Muslims seating at home deciding their votes because the UAE or any other Muslim country gets a shipping contract?"
No, they are biding their time waiting for the sign from mohammed. And when they have the goodly number they need, and the timing is right, they will strike american infidels within our borders and strike they will with extreme prejudice.
Only terrorist sympathizers don't accept or realize what they have planned.
...and I thought I was weird.
Another series of either misstatement or willful lies. I suggest you stop posting an simply read the threads. Your statements about UAE display a rather stunning level of ignorance. They do NOT support Whabbist. IN FACT UAE BANS Internet access to extremist Islamic Websites.
They will NOT "managing our ports". That is another lie or willing misstatement. They are buying the company that hold the lease on 9 Port Terminals. 9 terminals out of 300 in the mentioned 6 port. They will not "Gain access to several hundred new visas" another lie or willful misstatement.
What are they going to do with the existing staff of the company they are buying. Same thing any other company does when they make a new acquisition. Keep them doing their job unless they are duplicating a function they purchasing company performs elsewhere. That doesn't apply to a port terminal. You need the staff on hand without interruptions
The level of ignorance being displayed on this story by the Port Deal Critics is truly amazing. Perhaps the Rabid knee jerks should simply shut up about a topic they know NOTHING about. Out of 300 Terminals in the 6 ports, the Dubai company is buying the company that holds the lease on 9 Terminals. Let's put down the Democrat Press Releases and start ACTUALLY learning the facts instead of just spewing the hysteric nonsense about "taking over our ports" Local Govt Port Authorities run our ports. Local State and Federal Agencies run the security aspects. This is a kin to an Airline getting gate assignments at the local airport. The rest of your statements are just simply factually incorrect. You are either being incorrect from ignorance or malice, I will leave that for others to decide.
It is a mystery there. I go to a couple of Saudi blogs including one called "the religious policeman" which is great and hilarious to get some insight. I have never figured out how much of the House of Saud rally believes in this Wahbbinism stuff. It seems like a pact with the devil to me. I thought I read one time that at some point in this century the clerics were getting out of control and the Saudi family killed a good bit of them and some sort of unwritten agreement has existed between the two ever since
Seems to me the logical conclusion of this argument is that the US should not trade with any country that boycotts Israel. That simply is not practical.
Wonder does that mean we start kicking all EU companies out of the US? They are giving a whole slug of money to Hamas.
Please, my muslim doctor is a part of this plan as well as the majority of muslims in the usa. This sounds alot like how the Jesuits want to rule the world and control all forms of Govt in the USA. There is no secret plan among American muslims.
bump
YEah, I think alot of this is people dont know how business operates. In the end the theory has always been that trade opens up the world of ideas. That seems to have been the gospel for years. There is alot behind this and the motives behind all this anti port stuff are many.
"There is no secret plan among American muslims."
On this we can agree. It is not a secret.
Duplicate thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1586865/posts
If your saying that Moslems want to convert people to become moslems ok. Nothing wrong with that. I just dont think there is some open or secret plan for American muslims to become terrorist against the USA on some signal whatever that would be. I think we would have heard of it

"I'm shocked, shocked To find racism against Moslem's here!!!"
Here are some examples: statistically, they probably will. their birthrates are twice ours Which is why God gave the Cluster Bombs only to the Christians. You DO realize the Muslim world produces NOTHING but Oil?, She will use the Muzzies as an excuse to push her Utopian socialist wet dream energy plan but she will be one of the first people to show up to protest us KILLING terrorists., The Muzzies have NOTHING to say about it. There is NO damage done their side. OK Hysteric Leftists????? Quit making excuses for the barbarians OK??? and Kill them first. (in reply to "Believe me, we'd like to be open to all views. But when it comes to views insulting to muslims, well... those people can be hazardous to your health, ya know?").
If Rush Limbaugh says to burn the Danish flag we know who will be the first in line. I'm old enough to remember when the elephant was the GOP's symbol rather than the sycophant.
One thing missing in this argument is the business leaders of most Moslem nations are pretty sharp at making money.
I am not talking about the ones run by mullahs or insane dictators like Saddam.
A case in point, Motorola two way radios were banned in most Moslem nations but at the time they were the best.
The contracts stated Motorola radios but stated the name Motorola was to be removed. We made little glued on metal decals to cover the name.
On the manuals we had people going through them and blacking the names out. They got the best and everybody was happy.
Typical Bushbot response.
Those opposing this deal on the "left" are definitely trying to help the unions.
Those opposing this deal on the "right" are sounding more like Democrats lately, spewing disinformation.
Those opposing this deal on the "right" are sounding more like Democrats lately, spewing disinformation.
Yes, and I will continue to buy Danish goods!!!
Didn't an official of the Chinese government say they were going to destroy us a few months ago? Is it a good idea to allow a country that makes threats against us to control ports at our border?
I quite honestly have no idea when something really, really bad is gonna happen. I'm no chicken littly type by any stretch, but the sheer and utter negligence on our border issues, weak port policies that are being restated simply to support this DPW deal, as if all of a sudden the biggest security issue in the WOT just went away mystically, combined with the world bending over backwards to allow the spread of Islam, an ideology that is utterly incompatible with peaceful coexistence with other religious interests and peoples, and it just isn't looking pretty. The Dims are our enemy, and the GOP has turned into a collective of pansy-assed wussies on just about everything with personal political aspirations over what's in the best interests for our country dictating the actions of individual politicians. Something's gotta give at some point. Could be 20 years or more, could be much sooner. But things just can't go on like this for very long. The trend is not merely disturbing but on course for a very quick alteration of exactly what the United States has been. I see this country being torn apart due to language barriers and divides between the philosophies of Islam and other religions as Islam spreads within our borders. I must say however, with the Bible as the backdrop, it is probably the most interesting time in the history of humankind to be alive.
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