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Right-wing hysteria v the Dubai ports deal
BrookesNews.Com ^ | Monday February 27 2006 | Dick McDonald

Posted on 02/28/2006 1:44:45 AM PST by Brian Allen

I relentlessly criticize the left-wing media for lies, deceptions and omissions (LDOs). I take a back seat to no one smacking the left up side the head. So I wake up this morning with this tragic right-wing propaganda:

Because of the heightened concern over keeping America safe, it's amazing to think the federal government would put management of major U.S. ports in the hands of foreign companies.

Who do you think operates our ports now, you dimwit? And who would turn security of our ports over to a mere owner? Please.

Like the "emotional" "unpatriotic" left, our blindingly patriotic conservatives were first in line to savage our President, Secretaries of State and Treasury as political idiots for "turning our port security over to a terrorist organization" like the UAE (a totalitarian state of Muslims). As most knowledgeable patriots have come to realize, Muslims march to another tune. Theirs is a patient march toward the evangelical conversion of humanity by ANY MEANS to the cult of Islam and their "prophet" Mohammed.

It is easy to see why conservatives are upset. It took 4 entire years for the Republican administration to identify the "terrorist" enemy as Islamofascists preferring to "believe" like our liberal media still does that there is a mass of Muslims who have no interest in turning the world into a Caliphate. Such naive thinking doesn't warrant credibility at any level. Conservatives are well served to keep the pressure on an Administration that stumbles with a Harriet Miers when a Samuel Alito was in the wings.

There are two things wrong with our instant rejection of the UAE takeover of the present British management. First is the belief that intelligent and patriotic ministers of democracy like Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Condoleeza Rice, John Snow as well as George W. Bush would turn our very vulnerable target-rich ports over to our enemy. When you think about it, don't you question your knee-jerk rejection of their decision? Is there something you don't understand?

Second is the fact that the shipping business in the world is run by foreigners. Our brain-dead Congress has made so many restrictions on the business; everyone avoids flying the American Flag like the plague. With a "leftist-like" inflexibility is it any wonder that no American company ever bids for the management of the subject ports? And with customers like Wal-Mart cutting your profit margins to survival levels, why even bother.

I have been a subscriber to the Journal of Commerce, the bible of the shipping business for several years. It has informed me that the worldwide shipping business is world unto itself. When John Kerry was pounding on the electorate that he would protect Americans jobs, the JOC featured Kerry's picture on their cover and the accompanying article that blatantly stated that Kerry was "one of us" and to ignore his political pandering because “he is in our pocket”. Free trade from a "bought and sold man".

Shipping is the grease that makes the world's economic engine purr. Expenditures are measured in trillions not in millions or billions. To be competitive, governments the world over approve any expenditures to facilitate trade. As a result, you can ship products around the world cheaper than loading them on a truck and shipping them to the next town.

The rejection of Dubai Ports as the owner of the previously British management company sends a shot across the bow of Islam. It is too convenient to believe that some subtle management of this issue isn't involved. It is a remarkably convenient response to the militancy of an Islamic population gone berserk over cartoons. Hey fellas, you can't buy America even if you have the cash; because you are MUSLIMS. It is quite a message.

The propaganda, however, is an overblown response. Our ports operate under American laws. Our longshoremen are a patriotic mafia with millions of eyes searching for those who would jeopardize their $120,000-a-year jobs. Port security is overseen by the American Coast Guard and Homeland Security.

Plans, diagrams, electronic surveilance, security protection is available to all. Just visit any port and they will willingly show you how well-protected you are. Believe me there are no secrets. They are ready to blow a dingy out of the water that threatens a tanker. Dubai Ports would be out of that loop. Manipulating debits and credits is a far cry from manning the guns and radar.

Our ports are insulated from a passive management in Dubai. They operate under our laws with our people. What security secrets there are, are well known to world-wide port operators like Dubai already; security is a non-issue. However, conservative hysteria aside, what is the best course of action.

On one hand, if we approved the deal, we have an opportunity to demonstrate inclusion which could be used as a hammer over the Arab street. There is no doubt that such approval would be a priceless bit of Western propaganda. You have to believe W wants that tool.

Yet on the other hand, in the present clime, let's send a shot across Islam's bow. It would be a great counterpoint to the mushiness of our media and to our government's lingering inertia over publicly discussing the reformation of that political cult into a real religion. Let's reject the Dubai takeover.

But conservative’s best not jump out the window like their liberal opponents every time we are faced with a thorny issue. They always present opportunities. It is best to weigh the facts carefully and let the cauldron steep for a while. We don't want this conflict to last too long: we have an early tee time. And don’t be deceived, the operation of the ports would not change a whit under Dubai Ports, we would merely be sticking them with the bill.


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1 posted on 02/28/2006 1:44:47 AM PST by Brian Allen
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To: Brian Allen

Many thanks for posting this! :-)


2 posted on 02/28/2006 1:48:23 AM PST by nopardons
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To: Brian Allen

This guy says it all. So I hope this issue is closed, or soon will be, because this article lays it all out.


3 posted on 02/28/2006 1:59:52 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (No respect for conservatives? That's free speech. No respect for liberals? That's hate speech.)
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To: Brian Allen

Yep, hypocrisy, amazing our spineless senators "step up" to the plate when Dems are behind them, yet would do nothing about theft of US tech by the Chinese & Panama canal sale under Clinton, cowering in fear.

It's them & their false wealths, not Bush, who should be mediaticaly impeached or genocided.


4 posted on 02/28/2006 1:59:56 AM PST by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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I'm getting a little bit tired of being called a 'dimwit' a 'dupe', a 'hysteric' and other insults because I'm a little bit concerned with something that might be used to harm America and Americans; that I have concerns that a bunch of politicians might just be making a mistake or having personal, rather than patriotic agenda for decisions and wanting further information on their ' just trust me' statements.

While I'm still a little bit concerned about this situation, I'm willing to give the Bush Administration benefit of the doubt and 'toss the dice' that the Dubai ports deal may be a good idea... But I'm not blind enough to refuse to see that it has the potential for disaster.

And the next person to insult me as an ignorant knee-jerk fool might get a 'virtual punch in the nose'.


5 posted on 02/28/2006 2:03:36 AM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: Brian Allen

I find it amusing that Ann Coulter slams the Bush admin for the deal because Jimmy Carter, and Bill Clinton approve of it, but that puts her in bed with the likes of Mo Dowd who reflexively churned out one of her tri-weekly I Hate Bush columns and savaged the deal. I don't think Coulter likes the idea of snuggling (metaphorically speaking) under the sheets with the preeminent leftist loony scribe in the country. So what is it Ann?


6 posted on 02/28/2006 2:09:30 AM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Brian Allen
Just because the federal government has already done something so stupid as permitting much of American port control to fall into foreign hands, (cleverly and intentionally hidden from American citizens) it is no argument for allowing it.

We are not dimwits for insisting American ports be controlled by Americans. Our lives are at stake.

If we Americans have to suffer the constant humiliation of being treated suspiciously as we pass through the airports of our own country, we have an absolute right to demand American control of our own damn ports.

I don't hear a cry for allowing the United Arab Emirates to screen passengers at U.S. airports.

This "big happy world" crap of all people of the world just sitting around the campfire singing Kum-Bay-Yah is responsible for getting a lot of Americans killed.

This is OUR country. Many of our ancestors died to create it and keep it. American citizens have got to demand the protection of our sovereignty and throw politicians out of office who would so cavalierly and irresponsibly toss border control away for a dollar.

Our politicians and corporate executives are throwing away our country, our culture and our security.

7 posted on 02/28/2006 2:13:58 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Brian Allen
the belief that intelligent and patriotic ministers of democracy like Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Condoleeza Rice, John Snow as well as George W. Bush would turn our very vulnerable target-rich ports over to our enemy.

They are not perfect. Look at the southern border. They can be wrong.

Oops, I guess it makes me a racist xenophobic nativist to have noticed that we have a southern border.
8 posted on 02/28/2006 2:27:18 AM PST by milemark (Proud to be an infidel.)
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To: Brian Allen

Jeez. The guy can't make up his mind. This article is a mass of contradictions.


9 posted on 02/28/2006 2:29:24 AM PST by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

<< We are not dimwits for insisting American ports be controlled by Americans. >>

You may not be a dimwit but you may be a halfwit and are most certainly, whether wittingly or halwittingly a liar.

"American ports" are "controlled by Americans" and that a terminal or two here and there will be leased and operated by yet another foreign company will make not the slightest difference to our security.

Meanwhile Saudi Arabian Airlines and Aeroflot and Air China and every other Arab and Chinese and Russian and a score of other potential enemies has a cargo terminal and/or agent at every American Airport and fly their aircraft all over our country all day and all night.

And because Putzy Schumer and Dingy Harry Reid and Babs Boxer and "China" Feinswine haven't demagogued airport terminals for you this week your ignorance provides you bliss.


10 posted on 02/28/2006 2:31:07 AM PST by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: All
ON THE NET...

JPOST.com - JERUSALEM POST.com: "EXCLUSIVE: DUBAI PORTS FIRM ENFORCES BOYCOTT OF ISRAEL" by Michael Freund (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The parent company of a Dubai-based firm at the center of a political storm in the US over the purchase of American ports participates in the Arab boycott against Israel, The Jerusalem Post has learned.") (Updated February 28, 2006)
SAAG.org - Paper no. 1709 - "INTERNATIONAL TERRORISM MONITOR: PAPER NO. 26 PORT SECURITY IN US" by B. Raman (February 25, 2006)

UPI.com - Security & Terrorism: "UAE TERMINAL TAKEOVER EXTENDS TO 21 PORTS" by Pamela Hess (February 24, 2006)

WASHINGTON TIMES.com: "CONSIDERED AN ALLY NOW, UAE BACKED BIN LADEN" by Rowan Scarborough (February 23, 2006)

WASHINGTON TIMES.com: "SECURITY FEARS ABOUT INFILTRATION BY TERRORISTS" by Bill Gertz (February 22, 2006)

JINSA.org - Report #551: "PORT INSECURITY" (February 22, 2006)

INTERNET-HAGANAH.com: "TERRORIST WEBSITES AND PORT SECURITY" (February 22, 2006)

FOX NEWS.com: "BUSH SAYS HE WILL VETO ANY BILL TO STOP UAE PORT DEAL" (February 21, 2006)

TRAVEL.STATE.GOV - Consular Information Sheet: "UAE"

11 posted on 02/28/2006 2:33:53 AM PST by Cindy
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To: Brian Allen

I heard the Coast Guard was also concerned. Maybe they know something you don't.


12 posted on 02/28/2006 2:34:57 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: milemark
Oops, I guess it makes me a racist xenophobic nativist to have noticed that we have a southern border.

No that is a security issue every country has the right to protect their borders, but to treat an Allie or business partner differently than others just because they are "Arab" could make you Xenophobic.

13 posted on 02/28/2006 2:36:29 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: mlc9852
I heard the Coast Guard was also concerned. Maybe they know something you don't.

STATEMENT BY COAST GUARD SPOKESMAN CMDR. JEFF CARTER ON COAST GUARD PORT TRANSACTION ANALYSIS
Not sure if you read this or not.

14 posted on 02/28/2006 2:38:08 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: milemark

<< They are not perfect. Look at the southern border. They can be wrong.

Oops, I guess it makes me a racist xenophobic nativist to have noticed that we have a southern border. >>

Nope.

You're absolutely spot on with our southern borders.

But insofar as those crossing from up there are of an entirely different calibre of evil than the poor old Central American Indians pouring in from the south, don't neglect our northern border - or our airports. Like our ports, past, now and in the future controlled exclusively by Americans, they're as bad.


15 posted on 02/28/2006 2:38:10 AM PST by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: driftless

<< So what is it Ann? >>

Maybe her muslime boy friend spurned her? Hell hath no greater fury, Im told .....


16 posted on 02/28/2006 2:41:49 AM PST by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: Echo Talon

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060228/ap_on_go_ot/ports_security

I don't think it's a good idea and can't help but think there are some missing pieces to the way this came about. And Bush saying he didn't know about it before makes me think there are many more questions than answers at this point. And I don't trust Arabs - any of them.


17 posted on 02/28/2006 2:46:33 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852

<< I heard the Coast Guard was also concerned. Maybe it knows something you don't. >>

Or maybe I know incredibly more than you can feel?'

Me and the Coast Guard, that is.

QUOTE:

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Office of Public Affairs
U.S. Coast Guard





Press Release Date: Feb. 27, 2006


Contact: Cmdr. Jeff Carter
(202) 267-1933



STATEMENT BY COAST GUARD SPOKESMAN CMDR. JEFF CARTER ON COAST GUARD PORT TRANSACTION ANALYSIS



WASHINGTON - "What is being quoted is an excerpt of a broader Coast Guard intelligence analysis that was performed early on as part of its due diligence process. The excerpts made public earlier today, when taken out of context, do not reflect the full, classified analysis performed by the Coast Guard. That analysis concludes ‘that DP World's acquisition of P&O, in and of itself, does not pose a significant threat to U.S. assets in [continental United States] ports.’

Upon subsequent and further review, the Coast Guard and the entire CFIUS panel believed that this transaction, when taking into account strong security assurances by DP World, does not compromise U.S. security."

END QUOTE.


18 posted on 02/28/2006 2:51:40 AM PST by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: mlc9852
Upon subsequent and further review, the Coast Guard and the entire CFIUS panel believed that this transaction, when taking into account strong security assurances by DP World, does not compromise U.S. security."
19 posted on 02/28/2006 2:56:37 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Brian Allen

thanks! It was ridiculous that the media jumped all over this last night. Especially CNN. Hate to watch, but always best to know the other side's game plan. Two things I learned from watching them.

1) DUBAI will have absolutely NOTHING to do with CNN. Nothing. No interviews, nothing. They can't stand Lou Dobbs. He, of course, is playing this for all it's worth. Reminds me of an O'Reilly wanna be. He only wishes.


2) I also heard CNN claim that the 45 day 'redo' is not the 'redo' it appears to be. Apparently the deal goes through on March 2 regardless. Anyone else hear this?



20 posted on 02/28/2006 3:02:34 AM PST by Kimberly GG
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To: Cindy

And?


21 posted on 02/28/2006 3:04:25 AM PST by Kimberly GG
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To: Echo Talon

I wonder what got them to change their assessment?


22 posted on 02/28/2006 3:11:19 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: Brian Allen

One more thing, I'm having trouble finding this anywhere on the net. Any chance you can provide a link. Thanks!


23 posted on 02/28/2006 3:14:31 AM PST by Kimberly GG
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To: mlc9852
I wonder what got them to change their assessment?

Dont know but AQ probably shouldnt know either...

24 posted on 02/28/2006 3:16:12 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Brian Allen

Foreign powers bought the Democrats a long time ago. Why don't we care about that?


25 posted on 02/28/2006 3:22:51 AM PST by The Raven
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To: Brian Allen

"The rejection of Dubai Ports as the owner of the previously British management company sends a shot across the bow of Islam."

Oh, gee ... wouldn't want to do that. Islam is such a great and trustworthy friend! /sarcasm

I don't care if we allowed Britain to manage the ports. The UK is our best ally! There is no comparison between the UK and UAE.


26 posted on 02/28/2006 3:32:16 AM PST by f150driver
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To: LegendHasIt
Life is hard. it's harder if you're stupid.

Arguing with somebody over the internet is a lot like running in the Special Olympics. You might win but you're still retarded.

Hutchison Port Holdings along with PSA Singapore Terminals, Dubai Ports World and Denmark's APM Terminals handle nearly eight out of every 10 containers destined for the United States. Ever wondered why there are so few American shipping companies operating terminals overseas?

27 posted on 02/28/2006 3:42:03 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: Darkwolf377

He implies it but doesn't say it, so I will:

1) There are no American companies to take over P&O. All potential bidders are foreign entitities.

2) DP World would not be "taking over ports", they would be taking over certain business operations (lesser or larger) within each individual port, e.g., stevedoring only at the Port Of Portand, Maine.


28 posted on 02/28/2006 3:49:01 AM PST by angkor
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To: Kimberly GG
I also heard CNN claim that the 45 day 'redo' is not the 'redo' it appears to be. Apparently the deal goes through on March 2 regardless. Anyone else hear this?

For all intents and purposes, yes, this is a done deal. Dubai Port World very graciously offered to delay the transfer in order for the idiots in Congress to review the facts and to give more time for the facts to get out to the American people so they would be more comfortable with the transfer.

Dubai Port World made a legal business deal that was approved by the appropriate authorities. There is no reason for them not to take control of the lease whenever they want.

29 posted on 02/28/2006 3:59:26 AM PST by Elyse
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To: Brian Allen

Could the reason the Dems are pushing so hard about port security not have a thing to do with acutual security in the US, but growing the federal government by adding the dock workers to the federal work force? Just as they did for the airport screeners?


30 posted on 02/28/2006 4:11:45 AM PST by GailA (May our Lord bless and protect our Troops in harms way.)
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To: mlc9852; Echo Talon

You were just shown a link to an article that PROVES the story you linked was WRONG.

But never mind that.


31 posted on 02/28/2006 4:15:01 AM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: Brian Allen

Thank you for sanity in the face of mindless rant and blather.


32 posted on 02/28/2006 4:16:17 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: GailA

They've been trying to shove the unions down our throats everywhere else, why not?


33 posted on 02/28/2006 4:16:28 AM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: All
Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Condoleeza Rice, John Snow as well as George W. Bush would turn our very vulnerable target-rich ports over to our enemy. When you think about it, don't you question your knee-jerk rejection of their decision? Is there something you don't understand?

Most people don't understand what goes on at ports. Why should they? They never needed to. The supply chain worked for most consumers without any requirement for them to think about how that Made-in-China item they want got from where it was made to the shelf.

Now ports are in the news thanks to a Democrat effort to make people think Democrats care about security and a whole lot of people fell for it.

In the last couple of weeks a small band of Freepers who do know something about ports, or shipping, or Dubai, have attempted to engage and educate the Freepers who fell for it. The results of that can be found at keyword: ports. Lots of negative emotions expressed on those threads. Lots of people didn't think before hitting Post, and now those opinions are archived.

The Freepers who fell for it are feeling defensive now. We should be gentle with them.

34 posted on 02/28/2006 4:26:04 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: All

If we turn this down, there might be riots.


35 posted on 02/28/2006 4:27:05 AM PST by bennowens
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To: mlc9852

DHS spokesman stated in OPEN SESSION yesterday, that those concerns no longer exist. The Coast Guard is satisfied, and voted in favor of this deal. Minutes later they went into closed session. Later lieberman and collins (wow, there are two staunch Bush supporters) came out and stated "they still had concerns".

LLS


36 posted on 02/28/2006 4:36:10 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: angkor

Thanks for your insight. The more information the better in the face of hysteria.


37 posted on 02/28/2006 4:37:27 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (No respect for conservatives? That's free speech. No respect for liberals? That's hate speech.)
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To: mlc9852

"I wonder what got them to change their assessment?"

Truth and facts.

LLS


38 posted on 02/28/2006 4:38:10 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: milemark
"Oops, I guess it makes me a racist xenophobic nativist to have noticed that we have a southern border."


You think the liberals have gone unhinged over their lying distortions over port security, well that is but a mere hiccup compared to what their reaction is and will be if anybody without their advise and consent starts building a wall along that southern border.

These Saddam supporters have been all about encouraging this illegal invasion longer than President Bush has been president. Were they of a mind to stop this illegal invasion they would have put a stop to is decades ago.

Maybe that "free trade zone" was about more than material goods.
39 posted on 02/28/2006 4:45:01 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: LibLieSlayer

I'll take Chain of Command for $500, Alex.


40 posted on 02/28/2006 4:48:06 AM PST by Canedawg (Dubious about Dubai)
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To: Brian Allen

BTTT


41 posted on 02/28/2006 4:49:39 AM PST by sayfer bullets
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To: Darkwolf377
This issue will not be gone until Cheney shoots another fellow hunter or some similar activity tempts the America hating left.

This time the media had partners in the hysteria and that is unforgivable.

We made Hannity a household name and his hubris and lack of intellgience has led us to this point.

Now the piper must be paid.

42 posted on 02/28/2006 4:56:05 AM PST by OldFriend
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

It makes me wonder if you have been in an airport since 9/11


43 posted on 02/28/2006 4:57:31 AM PST by OldFriend
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To: mlc9852

Do read post #14, right here on FreeRepublic!!!


44 posted on 02/28/2006 4:58:25 AM PST by OldFriend
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To: OldFriend
Well put. But you know what I keep thinking about? Wiretapping. That story created an uproar and then the dems supported it, anyway, but they must be dancing at how well it worked as "part of a story", their attempts to paint the administration as Nixonian.

With the help of many Republicans this may very well be the story that cements that image.

45 posted on 02/28/2006 5:07:36 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (No respect for conservatives? That's free speech. No respect for liberals? That's hate speech.)
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To: Brian Allen

A good article fatally injured by the use of "you dimwit" to refer to "dear reader."


46 posted on 02/28/2006 5:07:44 AM PST by Graymatter (Not A Good German)
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To: Darkwolf377
I'd not over react to the prospect of permanent damage. At least now. The polls have to be over weighted with dems to get the desired results.

We have to be vigilant not to become deluded into thinking the media is winning. They only win if we allow them to win.

47 posted on 02/28/2006 5:11:39 AM PST by OldFriend
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
the federal government has already done something so stupid as permitting much of American port control to fall into foreign hands

I can understand that you'd still be alarmed given that you've bought in to the MSM and Rat refrain that P&O "controls the ports", which is a flat out lie.

In fact, P&O - along with hundreds of other foreign and domestic business entities - control *businesses within the ports*, not the entire port itself.

Examples: at the Port Of Portland, Maine, P&O runs the stevedoring operations, not the entire Port Of Portland (which includes huge petro operations including Exxon).

At the Port Of Miami, P&O retains 50 percent ownership (not 100 percent) of several terminals (not all) along with 50 percent of stevedoring.

You'll really need to do the legwork yourself, since the MSM cannot seem to distinguish between "running the port" and "running one of many businesses that operate within a port".

Go here:

http://www.aapa-ports.org/directory/corproster.htm

...or here:

http://portal.pohub.com/portal/page?_pageid=169,1,169_82863&_dad=pogprtl&_schema=POGPRTL

Click on each yellow ball to see what kind of business P&O runs within the larger operation of the port itself (to wit, to see that P&O does not in any manner whatsoever "control the port".

48 posted on 02/28/2006 5:23:25 AM PST by angkor
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To: Brian Allen

With all the support the UAE has already given to WOT, I doubt the rest of the Muslim world could get any madder than they already are.


49 posted on 02/28/2006 5:30:15 AM PST by wolfcreek
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To: milemark

Amen!


50 posted on 02/28/2006 5:36:13 AM PST by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist , cynic or right wing extremist!)
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