Awaiting Retrial, Yates Rejects Plea Offer(I'd have to be really crazy to accept that.)

ABC News ^ | Feb. 27, 2006 | Pam Easton

[MensRightsActivist]

"HOUSTON Feb 27, 2006 (AP)— Andrea Yates on Monday rejected prosecutors' plea offer of a 35-year prison sentence and is expected to face retrial in March in the drowning of her children.

Prosecutor Joe Owmby told state District Judge Belinda Hill that the state would leave the offer on the table until March 10, 10 days before Yates' trial is set to begin for the deaths of three of the five children.

Yates has pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity, as she did at her first trial."

[MensRightsActivist]

It's looks like Andrea Yates told prosecutors (who made a plea offer to her), "I'd have to be really crazy to accept that." Okay, maybe not those words but at least something clearly rejecting their offer.

So, how crazy can Yates be if she is making her own decisions about rejecting plea offers?

How crazy can Yates be if she rejects a plea offer, because she thinks being re-tried for being crazy is a better deal?

If she gets convicted again of being crazy I think she'll be getting what she wants, but if she's found sane, what's she going to do then, say, "I was crazy for not taking the plea offer?"

I think I just hurt my head trying to figure this one out. This story just gets crazier and cazier.

[indcons]

Please don't change the headline (FR rules)....pinging AM

The original headline is "Awaiting Retrial, Yates Rejects Plea Offer"

[ferri]

that's crazy...lol

i probably won't win any popularity contests with this statement, but i have to believe anyone that kill her children IS crazy.

[The Old Hoosier]

Well, how crazy are they to offer her a deal?

[babygene]

I agree with you.

[ferri]

having said that though...do i ever want her outside a prison? NO.

[SoothSayerONETIME]

whats crazy is that she drowned ,not 1, not 2, not 3, not4, but 5, yes FIVE of her own children......she knew what she was doing, crazy ass woman.

[Rastus]

The important thing is to determine if she knew what she was doing was wrong. Killing your children is crazy, but not legally crazy if you know you shouldn't.

[woofie]

how about the "not guilty by reason of tired of the kids" plea

[ferri]

didn't she say she was saving them from evil or something crazy like that? (wasn't trying to make a joke!)

[Keith in Iowa]

This is a case that makes me wish there was a "guilty by reason of insaity" plea available - and the sentance would be treatment, and then jail when they were sane enough to understand what they did.

[ferri]

how about the "not guilty by reason of tired of the kids" plea

a normal mom finds another way to deal with it. she was on drugs for her problems for awhile too. don't know if that helped or hindered her problem.

[Rastus]

I think she did say something like that, but I would expect that. What's more interesting to me is that she called the police after committing the murders. That sounds like someone who knew what she was doing was wrong.

[ferri]

maybe. i just cannot imagine it. not 5 babies and be sane.

[JLS]

Why don't you ever want her outside of prison? Who do you figure she might harm? Why should the tax payers of Texas pay to keep her locked up forever?

I can certainly see punishing her to deter others. But it is not exactly like the streets are made less safe like when they let out thugs.

[america-rules]

"she drowned ,not 1, not 2, not 3, not4, but 5, yes FIVE of her own children......"

Don't foeget she killed them to be with a man who didn't want kids who wasn't her husband !

A bullet between the eyes is the best option for her !

[ferri]

Why don't you ever want her outside of prison? Who do you figure she might harm? Why should the tax payers of Texas pay to keep her locked up forever? I can certainly see punishing her to deter others. But it is not exactly like the streets are made less safe like when they let out thugs.

even if she is crazy she should be made to pay for the rest of her life for what she did. she shouldn't be given a second chance at life when she took 5.

[JennysCool]

Err, I think that was another crazy mom.

Andrea was off her meds and also into some sort of loony religious thing, IIRC.

[Mind-numbed Robot]

This is a case that makes me wish there was a "guilty by reason of insaity" plea available -

This is one of those cases that makes me wish we could just bring the kids back and forget the whole thing and I know you do too.

[Cheburashka]

Let's face it, if the "not guilty by reason of tired of the kids" plea was acceptable this would be the last generation of human beings on the planet.

[hershey]

Yates is nuts.

[Cheburashka]

Why don't you ever want her outside of prison? Who do you figure she might harm?
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She killed HER OWN children. What makes you think she's not capable of killing someone else's children?

[Misschuck]

I still think her husband had the most to do with her state of mind. There are all kinds of abuse.

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

Heaven knows insanity was disreputable enough, long ago; but now that the lawyers have got to cutting every gallows rope and picking every prison lock with it, it is become a sneaking villainy that ought to hang and keep on hanging its sudden possessors until evil-doers should conclude that the safest plan was to never claim to have it until they came by it legitimately.
The very calibre of the people the lawyers most frequently try to save by the insanity subterfuge ought to laugh the plea out of the courts, one would think.

MARK TWAIN

[wolfcreek]

Anyone on this thread that makes excuses for this woman is either uninformed or as sick and evil as she is. Andrea Yates deserves to be put to death for her insidious crimes. Crazy or abused is not an excuse for acts of EVIL!

[wolfcreek]

BTW: anyone with a problem with what I just posted, let me KNOW!

[alisasny]

Agreed and it makes the word "crazy" have less meaning.

There is no room in society for the evil in this woman PERIOD.

I do not understand how one can murder. But to label murderers crazy in an attempt for leniency is well Crazy.

Crazy is not killing ones own 5 children in a horrible evil manner.

[ferri]

the only problem i would have with it is that her husband should go too. he knew she had problems and kept using her as a baby machine.

[wolfcreek]

Fine, they're both Evil!

[ferri]

you bet they are. wanna bet what his first move would be if she were set free???

[MensRightsActivist]

"Anyone on this thread that makes excuses for this woman is either uninformed or as sick and evil as she is. Andrea Yates deserves to be put to death for her insidious crimes. Crazy or abused is not an excuse for acts of EVIL!"

She gets away with it, because the taxpayer funded hate movement know as women's studies teaches that all women are victim of Patriarchy (an existing male dominated structure in American law, business, etc. that has oppresive power and control over all women).
http://www-unix.umbc.edu/~korenman/wmst/programs.html

The National Organization for Women, which is active in most of those programs, if not all, lobbied hard and heavy that Andrea Yates was a victim not responsible for her actions.

[goldstategop]

She can reject it because some liberal judge will throw her sentence out down the road. If I knew that, I'd be crazy to take a deal from the prosecution. Yates is anything but crazy. She's shrewd.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

[MensRightsActivist]

"I still think her husband had the most to do with her state of mind. There are all kinds of abuse."

Bashing Russell Yates was very popular in the media after the crime and I think that shows how femi-nazified the media and America has become.

You may not be aware, but your theory does fit perfectly in with what is taught in liberal gender feminist programs on college campuses across America.
http://www-unix.umbc.edu/~korenman/wmst/programs.html

Be careful, your political correctness is showing
http://www.cafepress.com/mensbiz.25693290
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Women's Studies teaches that all women are victims of the oppression of heterosexual men (Patriarchy), and even that all heterosexual relations are oppressive to women.

[jess35]

Would you get a grip? Yates was a nutcase. Her husband had been told that repeatedly. She'd been hospitalized and drugged for her looniness. Her husband had a responsibility to his kids and to his wife. He failed on both counts. Blaming the "feminazis" just makes you look silly and petty. They also don't want any accountability or responsibility for the actions of their members.

[freepertoo]

My mother was six years old when she was adopted out with seven others of her siblings. The reason? Her mother had met a man (not her husband) who said she had to make a choice, him or the kids. She got rid of all but two of the kids.

[BamaAndy]

35 years isn't enough. Crazy or not, why should she ever see freedom again? I don't think she should. She IS guilty regardless of anything else that can be said by her or her lawyers.