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Mayor takes aim at gun show (Glendale Gun Show)
Glendalyan News Press ^ | 2/27/2006 | FRED ORTEGA

Posted on 02/27/2006 11:27:05 AM PST by BurbankKarl

CITY HALL -- A proposed law up for consideration at Tuesday's City Council meeting could spell the end for the Glendale Gun Show, a fixture at the Glendale Civic Auditorium for decades.

The ordinance, which was requested by Mayor Rafi Manoukian, would ban possession or sale of firearms and ammunition on city property, including the Civic Auditorium.

The law provides an exemption for possession of firearms by police officers, security guards, persons holding valid firearms licenses, members of the military and authorized participants in a motion picture or theatrical production.

Allowing the sale of guns at the city's auditorium sends the wrong message, Manoukian said.

"This is a public facility, and we don't want to give the impression that the city is promoting these gun shows," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at glendalenewspress.com ...


TOPICS: US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; bradywatch

1 posted on 02/27/2006 11:27:06 AM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl
Figures. He's a Chuck Schumer look-alike.


2 posted on 02/27/2006 11:33:02 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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To: BurbankKarl

$57,938, is the price of one, maybe two, young policemen, or new body armour, or new investigative equipment. Just thought I'd point that out while we're talking about reducing crime and all.


3 posted on 02/27/2006 11:33:42 AM PST by Threepwood
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Rafi Maoukian?
Tell him to get back on his camel and head back to whatever socialist workers' paradise he came from!


4 posted on 02/27/2006 11:43:26 AM PST by Redbob
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To: Redbob

Armenia, likely.


5 posted on 02/27/2006 11:47:11 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: BurbankKarl

What wrong message? That Americans are a free and independent people with the inalienable right to keep and bear arms? That wrong message?


6 posted on 02/27/2006 11:57:44 AM PST by jrp
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To: BurbankKarl
"This is a public facility, and we don't want to give the impression that the city is promoting these gun shows," he said.

Next week, the Glendale Civic Auditorium will host NAMBLA. According to Mayor Rafi Manoukian, this is a public facility, and we don't want to give the impression that the city discriminates against any organization.

7 posted on 02/27/2006 12:05:01 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: BurbankKarl

"would ban possession or sale of firearms and ammunition on city property, including the Civic Auditorium"

They did this several years ago in the Austin, Tx. Worked out for the best. We now have a larger, better gun show every month.


8 posted on 02/27/2006 12:21:46 PM PST by thorshammer
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To: BurbankKarl
Thanks for the post - I always find your info about my home town interesting. I grew up just below Brand Park so Burbank and Glendale were both old haunts.

The Gun show has been there since at LEAST the 70's when I lived in town. This is just a typical politically correct decision, i.e. not based on any merit. They need to figure out that owning and carrying a weapon is a constitutional right!
9 posted on 02/27/2006 12:30:48 PM PST by fremont_steve
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You ain't kiddin'!


10 posted on 02/27/2006 12:32:03 PM PST by stevio (Red-Blooded American Male (NRA))
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To: BurbankKarl

Off topic, but I'm surprised anyone even goes to gun shows anymore. I stopped going to the ones around my area -- I can get anything I want online at better prices and way too many of the vendors are simply trying to take advantage of folks with ridiculous prices (note to gun show vendors: those beater 30 round AR mags from 1975 aren't worth 20 dollars a piece anymore, and that questionable parts rifle, yeah the one without a single matching number anywhere on it and a barrel devoid of any discernable rifling, that you're selling as a C&R rarity, is not worth $450.00).


11 posted on 02/27/2006 12:40:22 PM PST by RogueIsland (.)
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To: RogueIsland
Same with me, I quit going years ago because of price and quality. If I just want to look at historical guns, replicas, or modern pieces a trip to Cabella's or other big name store works fine.
12 posted on 02/27/2006 12:45:12 PM PST by nomorelurker (wetraginhell)
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To: BurbankKarl
Here's what SC Justice Scalia had to say (in part) about "The attitude of people associating guns with nothing but crime, that is what has to be changed...,"

An avid outdoorsmen who's hunted with Vice President Dick Cheney, Scalia spoke Saturday at the National Wild Turkey Federation's annual convention.

"The attitude of people associating guns with nothing but crime, that is what has to be changed," Scalia told the audience of about 2,000.

"I grew up at a time when people were not afraid of people with firearms," said Scalia, noting that as a youth in New York City he was part of a rifle team at the military school he attended.

"I used to travel on the subway from Queens to Manhattan with a rifle," he said. "Could you imagine doing that today in New York City?"

13 posted on 02/27/2006 12:46:16 PM PST by Chinito (6990th Security Group, RC-135/Combat Apple, SEA Class of '68)
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To: BurbankKarl
That loss of revenue would translate to up to $57,938, which is what the city received from the four gun shows hosted at the Glendale Civic Auditorium in 2005. City staffers have suggested that such losses could be offset by raising fees for other users of the auditorium.

Instead of punishing the other users of the facility, why not just deduct it from the mayor's pay and all those city staffers who thinks it's such a good idea.

14 posted on 02/27/2006 12:46:38 PM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: nomorelurker
We have very few gun shows in Pocatello. One is scheduled next weekend. It's only the 2nd show in 5 years. I'm looking for Encore and/or Contender barrels. The going price new is around $220 to $270 for most calibers. Some of the fancy E.Arthur Brown and Bullberry barrels command a higher price. Last time the show was here I spent $5 on admission and didn't buy a thing.

The gun shows in California have been turning into more of a miltaria swapmeet. Any given gun shop in Pocatello has more stock on hand than the biggest Crossroads shows that I last attended in San Diego.

The dumbass mayor doesn't realize the revenues he is turning away for the city. The shows are very quiet events with lots of law enforcement uniformed and plainclothes. Some of them are present as customers too. I hope everyone with signed contracts to hold the shows takes the mayor to court for violation of ex post facto laws. A lawsuit with treble the damages in lost revenues and sunk expenses delivered personally to the mayor would get his attention.

15 posted on 02/27/2006 12:54:51 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: RogueIsland
Off topic, but I'm surprised anyone even goes to gun shows anymore. I stopped going to the ones around my area -- I can get anything I want online at better prices and way too many of the vendors are simply trying to take advantage of folks with ridiculous prices (note to gun show vendors: those beater 30 round AR mags from 1975 aren't worth 20 dollars a piece anymore, and that questionable parts rifle, yeah the one without a single matching number anywhere on it and a barrel devoid of any discernable rifling, that you're selling as a C&R rarity, is not worth $450.00).

but every once in a while you run across a guy that has no idea what he's selling. i've picked up a number of guns for hundreds less than they're worth, and a couple cases of ammo for less than cost.
16 posted on 02/27/2006 1:14:14 PM PST by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: BurbankKarl

Is it not a federal crime to conspire to deprive American's of their individual Rights, as this assclown is doing?


17 posted on 02/27/2006 2:38:26 PM PST by Mulder (“The spirit of resistance is so valuable, that I wish it to be always kept alive" Thomas Jefferson)
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To: robertpaulsen

Want to watch the Mayors head explode ?

Have NAMBLA host a gun show.


18 posted on 02/27/2006 7:49:48 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Mulder
Mulder asks: "Is it not a federal crime to conspire to deprive American's of their individual Rights..."

Yes, but, unfortunately, the California Constitution does not contain an explicit right of the people to keep and bear arms. And the federal Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals (more commonly referred to as the Ninth Circus) has ruled that the Second Amendment does not confer an individual right to keep and bear arms.

One solution to this problem is to have a ruling by a properly constituted US Supreme Court that the Second Amendment means what it says and that the immunity from infringement of that right may not be deprived of a citizen of the US by any state.

Alternatively, the people of California, making use of the Initiative Constitutional Amendment process, may change their constitution to protect the right to keep and bear arms.

California Freepers should support the initiative petition drive presently under way by reading the initiative itself on the main web site of The Alliance for Civil Rights, www.tacr.us and then by volunteering through the volunteers web site, rkba.members.sonic.net.

To volunteer, send your county, name, phone, email, and/or address to Dave at rkba@sonic.net.

Dave will provide guidance for volunteering at gun shows and for setting up petition locations to serve as signing opportunities for the general public. The goal is to gather over 600,000 signatures of registered California voters by April 15th. This will cause the measure to appear on the November ballot. If a majority of Californians approve, there will then be an explicit right to keep and bear arms in California, independent of the tyrannical nonsense of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.

19 posted on 02/27/2006 10:16:40 PM PST by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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