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The new rules of the global game
BBC ^ | 02.19.06 | Jonathan Marcus

Posted on 02/23/2006 10:09:13 PM PST by Coleus

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To: Designer

Yes indeed. What a position to be in, depending on communist China to buy our treasuries!


41 posted on 02/24/2006 1:06:57 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: B4Ranch
Do you want to see this movie or would you prefer to live this one event to the end? Is it time to stop globalization or shall we continue walking to our graveyards?

Most people are too busy watching Desperate Housewives or the football game to care. Even after Katrina, etc...., they still aren't taking steps to be prepared.

42 posted on 02/24/2006 1:08:26 PM PST by Mulder (“The spirit of resistance is so valuable, that I wish it to be always kept alive" Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Mulder

Thanks.


43 posted on 02/24/2006 1:09:01 PM PST by Lady Heron
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To: hgummer; B4Ranch; Designer; Lady Heron
I gather that this type of emergency may go on quite a bit longer than three days?

I think two weeks, and we're in serious trouble. It's back to choking somebody for 7 minutes. Doesn't matter if it's 7 minutes or 7 hours, the result is the same. I'm liking the skyscraper analogy here. A modern skyscraper can be compared to a modern city, run with a modern "just in time" delivery system. The skyscraper allows a tremendous number of peope to live on a few acres, with an incredible amount of conveniences and even luxury. Climate control, hot and cold water on demand, etc. But if an explosion in the sub basement takes out the pipes and destroys the water and HVAC system, how long can people live in the skyscraper, and where would they go? Big trouble results, in a hurry. Our cities are like that. If the ATMs, gas stations and and grocery stores are cleaned out during any type of panic, then what? Chaos, fear, panic and hunger. Fathers will not sit around while their children cry from starvation. We will see either brutal martial law to keep order, or total anarchy.

44 posted on 02/24/2006 1:13:34 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Mulder

Sad but true. Add fear and hunger to the mix, and people would support any dictator who promised to restock the grocery shelves.


45 posted on 02/24/2006 1:15:10 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Lady Heron

snips from http://www.twnside.org.sg/title/food-cn.htm


Dawkins said in 1994-95, 10 cents out of every food dollar spent in the United States went to Philip Morris and another 6 cents went to CongAgra. Four companies - IBP, ConAgra, Cargill and Beef America - sold 87% of all slaughtered beef. Two companies - Kelloggs and General Mills - sold two-thirds of all ready-to-eat breakfast cereals. Campbells sold 73% of all canned soups. Frito-Lay sold 85% of all corn chips and 40% of all potato chips. Kraft is owned by General Foods, (the latter is owned by Philip Morris) sold more than half of all sliced processed cheese.

Small farmers are paying the price for this corporatisation. They have been seen as dispensable in the US and the dispensability of the small farmer is now being globalised through trade liberalisation.

The main argument used for the industrialisation of food and corporatisation of agriculture is the low productivity of the small farmer. However, even the World Development Report has accepted that small farms are more productive than large ones.

In spite of all evidence pointing to the high diversity, productivity and sustainability of small family farms, globalisation is wiping out these efficient systems and replacing them with inefficient and unhealthy industrialised food systems under corporate control.

The myth of low productivity of diversity-based small farms is also being used to promote genetic engineering. In her paper on 'Biodiversity and Biotechnology', Beth Burrows called genetic engineering a form of Structural Adjustment but directed by Ciba-Geigy and Monsanto rather than by the World Bank and IMF.
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How many family farmers/ranchers do you know who do not have either the wife or the husband working in town at another 'cash' job today? I don't know a single one and I know a bunch of these folks.

40 years ago the big shots decided that they needed these people as part of the labor force where their wages were taxable.

More family farms have been sold out to the top four or five ag corps in the last 25 years than you can imagine. In many instances the farmer still lives on the land but the crop belongs to Monsanto or some other world wide corporation.


46 posted on 02/24/2006 1:52:16 PM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: B4Ranch
How many days food supply do you have in your home?

I maintain several months worth of caloric intake as body fat.

I'm ready.

47 posted on 02/24/2006 2:03:19 PM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: hgummer
Do you or the Mrs. go food shopping every three days? Imagine what that would be like if you had to stand in line for six hours to get your next three days worth of food that FEMA or the local Emergency Services decided that you need.

The three days later the process repeats once more except this time you don't receive even 50% of what you need. Can you fathom what your neighborhood would look like if armed people were robbing homes for food?

Would you care to imagine what the 12th and 15th days would be like or do you doubt that you still be alive?

48 posted on 02/24/2006 2:14:38 PM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: Travis McGee
This is the dark downside of our total global interconnectedness, based on JIT delivery. Shut that global conveyer belt down for any period of time.....and it's like shutting off the HVAC system in a modern skyscraper. The results will be swift.

A side note story, this actually happened to me once when I worked for an engineering firm as a computer/plotter operator. One summer, we had temps of like 90F to 100F and the building's A/C burned out a motor and of course we had no A/C at all. But in my computer room, I had my own independent A/C unit so we can keep the computers and plotters cool plus the humidity had to be kept at a certain level. I made friends really fast for a while, I had something in the entire building that even the CEO didn't have. B-)
49 posted on 02/24/2006 4:14:38 PM PST by Nowhere Man ("Imhotep! Imhotep! IMMMM-HOOOO-TEPP!!!")
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To: B4Ranch
When you have a few million people who are hungry, retooling isn't an option. I would doubt that, during the winter months, if one was to gather every can of food in the entire North America that you could feed us all for 15 days.

I think you'd see a comback in game hunting with a lot of people out there hunting for game with anything from revolvers to assault rifles. The downside is that if you spot a deer, elk, buffalo, etc., when you fire your gun, the noise will let others know within a 5 mile radius (sound will carry more when things like airplanes don't fly anymore, etc, I live near an airport and it was kind of eerie when the President ordered all flight traffic to a halt for a week) of your general direction and give them the idea that the best way to bring home the venison is to find you.
50 posted on 02/24/2006 4:19:56 PM PST by Nowhere Man ("Imhotep! Imhotep! IMMMM-HOOOO-TEPP!!!")
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To: Nowhere Man

"the best way to bring home the venison is to find you."

They will know ahead of time that you are also armed, so that reduces the risk somewhat. The increased risk is that those who were serious about finding you would probably shoot you from a concealed location.

One answer would be to kill the deer or whatever then stay where you are for 12/24/36 hours, remaining on the lookout for armed men who appear to be tracking, before you headed back to camp.


51 posted on 02/24/2006 4:58:43 PM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: Mulder

Buy gold...mold lead...load powder hehehe.


52 posted on 02/24/2006 5:55:59 PM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: B4Ranch

Yep, and those small farms were our safety system for hard times. That's gone now.


53 posted on 02/24/2006 7:37:07 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Nowhere Man

Imagine any city if the power went out and stayed out for more than a week.


54 posted on 02/24/2006 7:38:35 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: B4Ranch; Travis McGee

I understand your point. I find it interesting that with hundreds of billions more spent on the military, Department of Homeland Security, etc. since 9/11 we appear to still be just one "incident" away from poverty, riots, hunger, etc. Once again, this is not in my local paper or tv news. All that spending, regulations, taxes and government employees, and "homeTOWN security" will still depend on prepared Americans with a little foresight and well stocked pantries!


55 posted on 02/24/2006 11:10:15 PM PST by hgummer
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To: hgummer

And we know that only an insignificant % of Americans will have a week's worth of food and water if and when the SHTF.


56 posted on 02/25/2006 8:28:12 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: hedgetrimmer
It's a world, which, as Moises Naim, Editor-in-Chief of Foreign Policy magazine told me, is crying out for some form of global governance.

Someone finally gets it?

Yeah, but I suspect a CoDominion such as has been described by Jerry Pournelle is not quite what they have in mind. But it may come to that.


57 posted on 02/25/2006 9:37:51 AM PST by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: B4Ranch; Travis McGee
My street would look like this:


58 posted on 02/25/2006 10:19:55 AM PST by vrwc0915 ("Necessity is the plea of every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants,)
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To: vrwc0915
Let's hope the outside temperatures are low otherwise the smell in 48 hours would be real rank!

Psst. Do you have another BMG tucked away that you'd be interested in selling?

59 posted on 02/25/2006 10:33:59 AM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: vrwc0915

I knew there was something about that pic (beside the fencing) that didn't look right. It just hit me that you're out of ammo. Get another belt in there quick!


60 posted on 02/25/2006 10:37:22 AM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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