The homosexual, alcoholic bishop

WorldNetDaily ^ | 2/18/06 | Les Kinsolving

[wagglebee]

The Associated Press reported on Valentine's Day afternoon from Concord, New Hampshire:

"The Episcopal Church's first openly gay bishop, V. Gene Robinson, says he is being treated for alcoholism.

"'I am writing to you from an alcohol treatment center where on Feb. 1, with the encouragement and support of my partner, daughters and colleagues, I checked myself in to deal with my increasing dependence on alcohol,' Robinson wrote in an e-mail dated Monday.

"Robinson's assistant at the Diocese of New Hampshire, the Rev. Tim Rich, said Tuesday that a growing awareness of his problem, rather than a crisis, led to Robinson's decision.

"In his letter, Robinson, 58, says he has been dealing with alcoholism for years and had considered it 'as a failure of will or discipline on my part, rather than a disease over which my particular body simply has no control, except to stop drinking altogether.'

"Rich said the news surprised him and many others.

"'We did not see it in any way impact his ministry in the diocese,' Rich said."

This AP story did not report any diocesan statement concerning how long Robinson has been dealing with alcoholism; when it "began to increase" – and how much.

Nor is there any explanation of whether there was increased alcohol dependence when Robinson left his wife to begin a homosexual relationship.

Alcoholism is indeed a disease – but since when has it ever ceased being "a failure of will or discipline"?

The AP also reported:

"The Rev. David Jones, rector of Robinson's home church, St. Paul's in Concord, said he also was surprised and had not seen any signs, even in retrospect, that Robinson had a problem with alcohol.

"Robinson was elected bishop of New Hampshire in 2003 and confirmed by the national church, causing an upheaval not only in the Episcopal Church, but the worldwide Anglican Communion of which it is part.

"At New York's gay pride parade last spring, marchers and spectators crowded around him for more than three hours, reaching out to touch his hand, crying and thanking him."

While prayer for any alcoholic is commendable, why did the Standing Committee of the Diocese of New Hampshire announce that Bishop Vicky Gene Robinson's (finally) seeking treatment is "a courageous example to us all"?

This man has been ordained since December 1973, and has undoubtedly dealt with alcoholism in other people.

There is no explanation from the diocese as to why this bishop did not seek treatment years ago, rather than traveling around the world promoting his new lifestyle and causing one of the worst crises in the history of the U.S. Episcopal Church, and more than 70 millions Anglicans worldwide.

[wagglebee]

There is no doubt in my mind that many were fully aware of Robinson's alcoholism, but they are busy pushing an agenda and that is all they care about.

[gondramB]

""In his letter, Robinson, 58, says he has been dealing with alcoholism for years and had considered it 'as a failure of will or discipline on my part, rather than a disease over which my particular body simply has no control, except to stop drinking altogether.'"

Well then he is in for a rough recovery.

[wagglebee]

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[Tijeras_Slim]

I thought he had a crack problem.

[sierrahome]

When this man passes away I fear he will have a great deal of explaining to do.

[wagglebee]

Ping.

[gondramB]

"There is no doubt in my mind that many were fully aware of Robinson's alcoholism, but they are busy pushing an agenda and that is all they care about"


Sadly, that happens in all walks of life where substance abuse is concerned - whether its a small circle of friends trying not to deal with one member's issues or the corporate world or little old ladies in the neighborhood.

[Tarkin]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1579748/posts

:-)

[wagglebee]

I've been sober for just over fifteen years and I've seen it all. Robinson's chances are very bleak in my opinion.

[Alex Murphy]

had considered it 'as a failure of will or discipline on my part

Which also describes his homosexuality (or at least his openly practicing it while still acting as bishop)

[jla]

"At New York's gay pride parade last spring, marchers and spectators crowded around him for more than three hours, reaching out to touch his hand, crying and thanking him."

Does this refer to the bishop, or Rudy Giuliani?

[wagglebee]

I've been a sober member of AA for over fifteen years. There is absolutely no question in my mind that alcoholism is a three-fold disease of spirit, mind and body -- I know there are many (including a lot in AA) who disagree, I just have no interest in debating it with them.

[pipecorp]

what does he do with the empties when he's done? ewwww
now they're non-returnables

[Tarkin]

[Clintonfatigued]

He should seek treatment for both conditions.

[Abcdefg]

He has a dependence on alcohol, but not on God? Hmmmm.

[BW2221]

Instead of the "Book of Daniel," I don't know why NBC didn't just do a series on the bishop's life. Sometimes, truth is stranger than fiction.

[Sam's Army]

Congrats on your 15 years. Examples like that are needed.

I have a friend from school who was sober for 12 before falling off 3 years ago to drink, and more recently, to drugs. He has since put his family through pure hell; but I fear he has not reached bottom yet.

[Duke Wayne]

He should consider himself lucky getting all this love from the left. If he were a Catholic priest he would be tarred and feathered by now.

[Mr. Lucky]

That's a picture you really didn't have to paint.

[VOA]

"The Rev. David Jones, rector of Robinson's home church, St. Paul's
in Concord, said he also was surprised and had not seen any signs,
even in retrospect, that Robinson had a problem with alcohol.

Two words: Drinking buddies

[dubyawhoiluv]

hear,hear I second that, this is truly representative of life on the dark side; but sadly it will never happen, muslins or cokehead,hollywood whore types they got thousands to choose from will also be excluded

[rbg81]

If I were gay, I might look to alcohol to ease the disgrace and shame.

[VOA]

He has a dependence on alcohol, but not on God? Hmmmm.

you said it all!

[Bosco]

Next thing we'll hear is that he was a cowboy many years ago and...

[wagglebee]

You're right. The only way somebody who is close to an alcoholic isn't aware of their drinking is because they are ignoring it for their own reasons.

[wagglebee]

Ping.

[USS Alaska]

[vaudine]

LOL--that's more than inquiring minds want to know!

vaudine

[NewEnglander]

You know the "old New England saying", where three or four Episcopalians are gathered, your are bound to find a Fifth. The Episcopal Church in America, as we use to know it, is history.

[Joe Republc]

.."'We did not see it in any way impact his ministry in the diocese,' Rich said."


I suppose not, when it's all about feeling good and pretending you're honoring the Lord by saying black is white or whatever color you want to call it.

-- Joe

[RobFromGa]

PING, this thread might be of interest to you! Freegards, RobFromGa

[jocon307]

Imho this man has an ego problem more than anything else.

[dblshot]

Nope, too many long necks.

[Huber]

bttt

[jocon307]

"...where three or four Episcopalians are gathered, your are bound to find a Fifth."

LOL! I can't believe I've never heard that before.

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[brainstem223]

Someone who repeatedly commits Biblical abominations is in no position to be saving others, since he is damned to hellfire's

[ghost of nixon]

"The Rev. David Jones, rector of Robinson's home church...said he...had not seen any signs...that Robinson had a problem with alcohol.

Two words: Drinking buddies (plus he's Robinson's rector - that just sounds creepy).

[dblshot]

Whiskeypalians

[claudiustg]

A gay, alcoholic Bishop, for whose sake the Church has been split apart: how is this not the work of Satan?

[solitas]

There is no explanation from the diocese as to why this bishop did not seek treatment years ago, rather than traveling around the world promoting his new lifestyle and causing one of the worst crises in the history of the U.S. Episcopal Church, and more than 70 millions Anglicans worldwide.

Hopefully it will all lead to an early grave for him.

[Mulch]

He's an alcoholic? Whats the problem? Thats just the way God made him.

[Grampa Dave]

What illegal drugs does he do? One of the many dirty secrets of the Male Homosexuals is their use of illegal drugs during their orgies and sexual encounters.

[wagglebee]

There's nothing wrong with him being an alcoholic. I am curious though how it was in the zeal to make him a bishop that his drinking was overlooked or ignored.

[Hand em their arse]

freepmail incoming...

[Mount Athos]

The Bible twice says that Bishops should be sober, and twice says they should not be given to wine.
(1 Timothy 3:1-7)
(Titus 1:5-9)

[sgtbono2002]

My guess is that he became addicted to alcohol by hanging around gay bars trolling to get on his knees outside of his Church.

Making this guy a Bishop was insanity.

[Luke21]

Been sober sixteen years myself. Congratulations.